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mark66
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 Re: Iron Man 3 (INTL)
$40.2m/$736.2m
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Enough already.
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13054 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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Riggs wrote: Enough already. Yep...
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Nah still heading for 800 Like it when these films always beat expectations..
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Shack
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WTF at the increase over Iron Man and Iron Man 2 internationally. I guess the Avengers put the Iron Man character over for international audiences?
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Shack wrote: WTF at the increase over Iron Man and Iron Man 2 internationally. I guess the Avengers put the Iron Man character over for international audiences? Also 3D, unlike the USA, 3D is still a MAJOR factor for overseas audiences. See TF3's increase over TF2.
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I guess $1.2 billion is a lock at this point and therefore the #5 all-time worldwide. That's insane and it is also the point to admit that while $1 billion worldwide is still a formidable and admirable milestone, it is definitely way easier to reach than 4-5 years ago and a little bit "less special". I still remember the time when Return of the King making $1.1 billion was pretty damn crazy.
$1.5 billion is the new "difficult" milestone and I don't expect more than 3-4 other $1.5 billion films until 2020.
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mark66
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Dr. Lecter wrote: $1.5 billion is the new "difficult" milestone and I don't expect more than 3-4 other $1.5 billion films until 2020. Are you sure about that? China is still adding theaters left and right and South America and other Asian markets are still booming...
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Dr. Lecter
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mark66 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: $1.5 billion is the new "difficult" milestone and I don't expect more than 3-4 other $1.5 billion films until 2020. Are you sure about that? China is still adding theaters left and right and South America and other Asian markets are still booming... No, I am not sure about that. It is a prediction  I think the fact that they are booming will allow for more and more $1 billion films, but $1.5 billion will remain difficult. I assume two Avatr films will get there, maybe one of The Avengers and something else too.
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Jack Sparrow
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I agree $1.5b will still stay difficult to make $1b is the new $700m OS, we should see atleast 2-3 movies an year getting past $1b mark. Though IM3 will cross is quite comfortably.....just goes to show how insanely massive JC movies are still...
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Sun May 19, 2013 10:59 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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3D is a reason but not why it increase by 150%
In the future I dont see anything passing 1.5 billion till TA 2 as that should cross a billion overseas.
Im3 has shown us that Superhero films have not reached their peak yet overseas.
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TServo2049
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$1.5b WW is still going to be very difficult. Even historically, only a few films' original releases had WW admissions that would be worth $1.5b in today's values. Star Wars, E.T., and Jurassic Park did it. Jaws probably did too, or at least it comes close.
Sure, there's now Russia and China, but that's offset by the fact that the European markets contracted in the early/mid-80s, and Japan shifted more toward their own film output concurrent with their bubble economy. In the 30 years since E.T., only five other U.S. movies have had greater Japanese attendance, and none in the 15 years before Titanic. And even 20 years later, Jurassic Park is still in the top 10-15 highest-attended U.S. imports. (JPBoxOfficeWatch has it as the 10th, but it doesn't list the original Star Wars trilogy, and at least the first one had to have sold enough tickets to place in the top 10.)
With the variables of currency values, ticket prices, exchange rates and lack of 3D premiums, I think ID4, TPM and ROTK would probably come close too. Possibly The Lion King as well. And if you take away 3D (especially the higher OS shares), at least one of those four may have had more WW admissions than TA. (And that's not including the re-releases of TPM and TLK either.)
On the flip side, there are another 20 or so films in the last several decades whose original WW attendance would likely inflate to a $1b+ gross today. Almost all of them are post-JP, due to those 80s market contractions I mentioned earlier. (For example, only 33% of Return of the Jedi's original total came from OS. It wasn't until Indy 3 that OS performances for U.S. blockbusters started to rebound and actually surpass domestic.)
So $1b may be getting easier, but $1.5b isn't. A film has to break out both domestically and OS - it has to be a perfect storm. IM3 is going to outgross DH2 domestically, but it won't beat DH2 WW because it will finish behind TA by about $200m DOM, and probably between $60m-80m OS (depending on how it holds against FF6 and the other upcoming releases).
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Mannyisthebest
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As of Yesterday Domestic: $348,082,524 31.5% + Foreign: $757,900,000 68.5% = Worldwide: $1,105,982,524 
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TServo2049
The Incredible Hulk
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Edited my last post, if it can still make $22m OS with just weekdays, I think it will at least got to $788m, and probably $800m. How much further depends on how hard it's hit by FF6.
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choubachou
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Mannyisthebest wrote: Nah still heading for 800 Like it when these films always beat expectations.. Marvel fanboy.
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Mannyisthebest
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Owwwww That hurt, I will have my bed that I sleep in covered in tears from that one.... 
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Sat May 25, 2013 12:29 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68318
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Still #1 in China on today's Top5Movies TV Programme.
I guess it will be pushed down to #2 on Tuesday.
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13054 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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$774.8m
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Mannyisthebest
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With this weekend gone it should cruise to 800 million overseas.
It made 40 million this week alone
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mark66
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Iron Man 3 became the #5 highest grossing film of all time globally and the #7 highest grossing film overseas thanks to a strong push over Memorial Day weekend. The film benefitted from a $24.6 million four-day North America gross (estimated) and a $17.4 million overseas weekend to reach a whopping $1.142 billion global cume. The film's top overseas markets are China ($117.4M), South Korea ($63.1M), the U.K. ($53.8M), Mexico ($47.4M), Brazil ($45.2M), Russia ($43.6M), and France ($40.1M). http://www.boxoffice.com/latest-news/20 ... f-all-time
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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So that's $775 million overseas. I assume $800 million is still happening. Wonder if it can pass Skyfall and On Stranger Tides overseas.
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Omni
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Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:04 am Posts: 1742 Location: Calisota
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Wow, its legs have been quite weak.
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Mannyisthebest
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It opened everywhere at the same time pretty much so I think its legs have been pretty good for the genre of film.
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Sun May 26, 2013 2:57 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Damn. I was hoping it would have an outside shot at beating Deathly Hallows Part 2.
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TServo2049
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The Potter films were always a phenomenon OS, in a way superhero films have never been until TA. If you take the adjusted domestic gross of each Potter entry and adjust the OS to match the DOM/OS split, it shows that all of them except DH1 pulled in OS attendances equivalent to $700m in 2013. IM3 is the only comic book film other than TA to sell as many tickets outside of North America - even TDKR had fewer OS admissions than DH1. And even if it were to match TA's OS, IM3 still can't beat DH2 because it's going to finish in the realm of $200m behind TA domestically.
As I said before, a film has to break out big-time and have great legs both domestically and overseas to break $1.3b. DH2 is the only one which achieved it without a huge domestic take. And in the last 20 years, the only other films whose first runs sold enough tickets WW to inflate to that much today were Jurassic Park, The Lion King, Independence Day, The Phantom Menace, Harry Potter 1 and Return of the King. All of them had domestic attendances higher than what IM3 will end up with. DH2 is still the lone outlier.
IM3 has done amazingly for a superhero movie, regardless of it not beating DH2.
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