superman returns predictons
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Shack
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Really? I thought the teaser sucked. Maybe thats a testament to Superman.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:10 am |
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misutaa
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Mr. Scott wrote: At my theater. All weekend for the Harry Potter shows, everyone us standing up and cheering after the Superman trailer played.
didn't get much of a reaction when I saw it.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:13 am |
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Mr. Sparkle wrote: Mr. Scott wrote: At my theater. All weekend for the Harry Potter shows, everyone us standing up and cheering after the Superman trailer played. didn't get much of a reaction when I saw it.
Same with me, just a little whispering.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:34 am |
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Rev
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Wether they like the teaser or not they now know there's a superman movie coming and they will see it.  alla starwars.
You non-believers will cower in fear of it's mighty boxffice.  the general public will make you believe.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:45 am |
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BJ
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Every time I see the teaser 400m+ because even more deeply edged into stone 
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:16 pm |
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El Maskado
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revolutions wrote: Wether they like the teaser or not they now know there's a superman movie coming and they will see it.  alla starwars. You non-believers will cower in fear of it's mighty boxffice.  the general public will make you believe. Luv this fan art 
Just like they all went in droves to see Superman 3 and 4 right?
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:11 pm |
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BJ
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: revolutions wrote: Wether they like the teaser or not they now know there's a superman movie coming and they will see it.  alla starwars. You non-believers will cower in fear of it's mighty boxffice.  the general public will make you believe. Luv this fan art  Just like they all went in droves to see Superman 3 and 4 right?
Stains on Sups record that i would not even know if if it wernt for me being a total BO nut, there so old and forgottent that pretty much all of the teens that will show up to see Sups wont even know there was a 3rd or 4th film. most of the people in there 20s probably barely remember and Sups films beyond 1 and 2. Thats easily the most important age group to apeal you no? I think that simply getting people between ages 10-25 to come out and see the film will be enough for around 250m-350m of its gross, the rest will depend on the older audience that has not forgoten Sups 3 and 4.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:20 pm |
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BJ wrote: Stains on Sups record that i would not even know if if it wernt for me being a total BO nut, there so old and forgottent that pretty much all of the teens that will show up to see Sups wont even know there was a 3rd or 4th film. most of the people in there 20s probably barely remember and Sups films beyond 1 and 2. Thats easily the most important age group to apeal you no? I think that simply getting people between ages 10-25 to come out and see the film will be enough for around 250m-350m of its gross, the rest will depend on the older audience that has not forgoten Sups 3 and 4.
Yet we aready have a saturated overload of comicbook movies so anything thats so special about Superman gets knocked down a few notches. Um yeah also the trailers really really grabbed everyone which is why they are soooooo quiet because they were in awe. As far as this so called renewed interest in Superman goes, I dont see the hype nor does Smallville reflect the interest at all. You really think they are really looking forward to a Superman restart, you guys are going to eat crow huge I tell you
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:28 pm |
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Hoban Washburne
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Mr. Scott wrote: At my theater. All weekend for the Harry Potter shows, everyone us standing up and cheering after the Superman trailer played.
Okay, so this is an absolute lie. The teaser is "meh" at best, and crowd reactions all over proved that, with either silence or some whispers after the teaser. There is ZERO chance that everyone stood up and cheered after the teaser played, i cannot believe you would say that. Maybe you stood up and cheered, and maybe the 2 people with you did, but there is no chance in hell that the whole theater did it, and for every showing all weekend as well. I get being a fan of movie and wanting it to do well, but i dont get how some people delude themselvse so much. I wanted Serenity to do well, and i damn well cheered after the trailers, but i was also well aware that after the trailers it was either silence or some whispers, no one was standing up and cheering. I also wanted Serenity to make a bajillion dollars, but i never actually deluded myself into thinking that it would actually happen, i was aiming for 70mil, that was my hope. Some fans really amaze me in what they will convince themselves is actually happening. Cause you either lied and people didnt stand and cheer, or you really believe that everyone stood up and cheered for every teaser all weekend. Either way, Superman wont be making 400mil+, it wont be making 300mil+, it would be lucky to get over 200mil.
The first 2 Superman movies were successful (134mil and 108mil), the 3rd one was a dissapointment (60mil), while the 4th one was an absolute bomb in every sense of the word with a whopping 11mil. That is something, for such a popular franchise to only manage 11mil. Even Rocky 5 managed 40mil, Alien Resurrection almost had 50mil, Batman and Robin was damn close to 110mil (and that was a dissapoinment), so for such a popular franchise to fall so so so so far, people must have really been absolute sick of it. Now its about 20yrs later and they are trying to resart the franchise, and it could work. But what in the hell makes people think that this will make 300 or 400mil? Spider-Man was an absolute phenomenon and it barely sqeezed past 400mil. Even EP3 (which i LOATHE) stalled at 380mil, so how in the hell would Superman make more? Oh, thats right, cause people are lunatics and will only believe that it wont happen when it finally doesnt happen (except some people still dont think that Ana was the shooter, so i guess people really are that stupid...)
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:00 pm |
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Big summer movies can coexist with each other.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:17 pm |
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Shack
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Think 2001.
And besides, if they're going for a slightly more quality approach, the legs will be better.
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:27 pm |
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Excel
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something will happen. i can say with absolute certainty thewy wont open so close. pirates will likely move....
superman 3 and 4? you forgot-superman wasnt fresh anymore! hed been on the big screen rcently!
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:48 pm |
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snack
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People are REALLY overestimating this. Superman has little appeal to the general public these days. But it'll still be big just because it's a summer blockbuster. I say 70/240
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:32 pm |
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Temujin
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Magnus101 wrote: This needs some bumping.
This will be big, but not like super-super-big
OD: 33m Sat: 33m Sun: 28
OW: 94m
Mon: 21 (25% drop) Tues: 16 (25% drop) Wed: 15 (6% drop) Thurs: 14 (7% drop)
Opening week: 160 (opening week will be 51.6% of total simliar to SM2)
Total: 310m
You may think that its 3.3 multiplier is very good, but it isn't. The legs of this will be determined by how much its opening week will be of its business. Anything over 50% makes it frontloaded.
There is absolutely NO WAY the opening weekdays will be even close to that big.
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:01 pm |
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Temujin
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Magnus101 wrote: Temujin wrote: Magnus101 wrote: This needs some bumping.
This will be big, but not like super-super-big
OD: 33m Sat: 33m Sun: 28
OW: 94m
Mon: 21 (25% drop) Tues: 16 (25% drop) Wed: 15 (6% drop) Thurs: 14 (7% drop)
Opening week: 160 (opening week will be 51.6% of total simliar to SM2)
Total: 310m
You may think that its 3.3 multiplier is very good, but it isn't. The legs of this will be determined by how much its opening week will be of its business. Anything over 50% makes it frontloaded. There is absolutely NO WAY the opening weekdays will be even close to that big. July 4th holiday Everyone is going to rush out before Pirates comes
That explains the Monday and Tuesday to an extent, yes, but there is no way that Wednesday/Thursday will be that high. Absolutely not. I'd give it:
Monday: 18
Tuesday: 14
Wednesday: 9
Thursday: 8
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:11 pm |
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Temujin
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Temujin wrote: Magnus101 wrote: Temujin wrote: Magnus101 wrote: This needs some bumping.
This will be big, but not like super-super-big
OD: 33m Sat: 33m Sun: 28
OW: 94m
Mon: 21 (25% drop) Tues: 16 (25% drop) Wed: 15 (6% drop) Thurs: 14 (7% drop)
Opening week: 160 (opening week will be 51.6% of total simliar to SM2)
Total: 310m
You may think that its 3.3 multiplier is very good, but it isn't. The legs of this will be determined by how much its opening week will be of its business. Anything over 50% makes it frontloaded. There is absolutely NO WAY the opening weekdays will be even close to that big. July 4th holiday Everyone is going to rush out before Pirates comes That explains the Monday and Tuesday to an extent, yes, but there is no way that Wednesday/Thursday will be that high. Absolutely not. I'd give it: Monday: 18 Tuesday: 14 Wednesday: 9 Thursday: 8
Forgot to mention it, but that is also ONLY if it opens to your 90mil+ prediction. I personally see it alot lower, maybe around 50-60, making the weekdays much lower as well.
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:18 pm |
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Scott V. wrote: At my theater. All weekend for the Harry Potter shows, everyone us standing up and cheering after the Superman trailer played.
I hate when people lie like this. Come on that is the most BS I have heard on these forums in a while. People standing up and cheering because of a trailer? Give me a break. Maybe a couple teenagers who were trying to be a smartasses would do that, but thats it.
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:20 pm |
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Excel
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people are underestimating this film big time....supermans got a huge fanbase then been sleeping a while.with good marketing this film will be huge....history tells us the big movie usually beats the huge sequel....spidey over attack of the clones?raiders over superman 2?batman over back to the future part 2?
superman openiong to 50 million while opening on a friday...dude what r u on?
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:55 am |
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excel wrote: history tells us the big movie usually beats the huge sequel....
Which means Da Vinci Code will probably be absolutely huge
Actually, you are wrong. You are just ignoring the statistics. History also tells us that the big movie is sometimes a huge sequel. Like ohhhh Shrek 2, Return of the King, Revenge of the Sith, Terminator 2, Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back.
So history seems to be indifferent to Pirate's status as a sequel, and it's ability to be maybe the #1 of the year in my view.
In all honesty, Pirates would be a massive disappointment if it made less than $250 million. Superman Returns is going to be fortunate to get 200 million, although it still is possible. You should be happy with that. 200 million is still a good gross!!!
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:21 am |
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excel wrote: superman openiong to 50 million while opening on a friday...dude what r u on?
Gien the weekend of release, I'd most certainly have to agree. Whether you like Superman or not (I personally don't, and the trailer wasn't fantastic) Superman is a top-tier superhero. Everyone of all ages knows Superman. It has one of the biggest weekend for release, as well as a clear schedule for what, three weeks before hand? Between X3 and Superman, we get Cars and Click. I think people will want the intensity Superman could bring (and no, Fast/Furious 3 won't cut it).
Warner Bros. Has six films for next summer. Three of them (The Lake House, the Ant Bully, the Visiting) won't ave much to them, both marketing-wsie and box-office-wise. They also have Poseiden and the Lady in the Water. Superman Returns is their biggest movie of the year (their only holiday film is Happy Feet). They will not screw up the marketing.
LEgs are a different story up for debate. But an opening below 70 is absolutely absurd, in my opinion.
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excel wrote: people are underestimating this film big time....supermans got a huge fanbase then been sleeping a while.with good marketing this film will be huge....history tells us the big movie usually beats the huge sequel....spidey over attack of the clones?raiders over superman 2?batman over back to the future part 2?
superman openiong to 50 million while opening on a friday...dude what r u on?
This movie WILL SUCK Big time..
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:27 am |
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GOD I WISH IT WAS JUNE 30TH ALREADY! 
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:39 am |
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People satnding and cheering eh? Okay. This is just superman loonism. I've seen this trailer three times and no one even made a peep. I'm not saying that bodes well or poorly for its potential, just that no one said shit about the trailer. Superman is a 30 year old franchise. It first came out in 1978 and ended in 86 I think. Christopher Reeves is dead, the franchise ended horribly with 3 and 4 being terrible films. Now I realize Smallville has revitalized interest in the franchise, but how much? I can't see how you can think this film will do LOTR type numbers. Do kids now adays really give a crap who superman is? Batman making 200+ mill is good, but it is nowhere near what the original made. And that was 15 years ago. This franchise hit its peak about 25 -30 years ago. 300 mill....400MILL....are you kidding me? I think 200 is possible and likely, but it wouldn't surprise me to see this film eek out 175-195 and then go away.
I did see a piece on one of the entertainment shows that said that Hollywood is banking on this summer being one of the most lucrative ever with films like X-3 and Superman....all I have to say to that is good luck.
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:46 am |
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Excel
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the trailer was too slow tomake anybody cheer....ill be honest. no way there was clapping.a simple "a new superman movies coming out-it costs 250 million" woulda done a better job. but if w.b. promotes the movie like it can be, it will be utterly huge.
dont giveme new sequels,im talking recently.
nobody thought nemo would beat matrix reloaded.
nobody though pirates would beat t3
nobody thought shrek would beat mummy returns
nopbody though men in black would beat lost world
nobody thought spiderman would beat attack of the clones
nobody thinks superman will beat pirates 2.
but it can happen. and just very well might. like i said, all superman needs is good hype and a good movie and itll beat pirates no matter how good or how much hype pirates has. superman could have up to 180 million dollars worth of good word of mouth heading into its second weekend, and that much talk would only mean a drop of 50% or lower and drops even smaller post pirates opening weekend.
baumer,then what of star wars????
in 1999 were you saying "how will episode 1 break 200 million when it hit its peak 16 years ago!"?
supermans never had a peak hes always just been huge.
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:23 pm |
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FILMO
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Actually...when can we hope for a full trailer or a new teaser???
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Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:29 pm |
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