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Michael A
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 Re: Production Budgets No, not at all, wouldn't be shocked to see it top under 20m, I have no idea what OS will do, but it'll be necessary for profit imo.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets Jack Sparrow wrote: Iron Fists is not guaranteed to make $25m. You are correct. But I think it will. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Michael A
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Re: Production Budgets Algren wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Iron Fists is not guaranteed to make $25m. You are correct. But I think it will. Well, you're officially wrong. Won't have a 3 multiplier. _________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets Michael A doesn't know how to use the word "officially" or the word "wrong"  _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets $165m? fuck!
It won't turn a profit from the US alone. No way, Jose.
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Re: Production Budgets Algren wrote: $165m? fuck!
It won't turn a profit from the US alone. No way, Jose. It's completely in line with other Disney CGI efforts. Both Chicken Little and Bolt had a $150m price tag. Tangled reportedly had a budget of $260m but that was apparently because the production was a bit of a nightmare. Also it's almost impossible to find a CGI animated movie from a major animated studio (DW, Pixar) with a cost of under $150m these days. I don't know why you're shocked.
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Re: Production Budgets Magnus wrote: Algren wrote: It won't turn a profit from the US alone. No way, Jose. And no one said it would...but no one also denies the existence of OS boxoffice. Also merchandising, and the use of the character in theme parks. Animated films are so much more than just the theatrical revenue. Of course it needs to reach a certain level for those to really have an impact but past that point it really doesn't matter how much that movie cost. The profits from merch and other stuff is so gargantuan that an extra 10-30 million in it's budget really isn't something to worry about so they just let the artists do what they want within reason.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets be.redy wrote: Algren wrote: $165m? fuck!
It won't turn a profit from the US alone. No way, Jose. It's completely in line with other Disney CGI efforts. Both Chicken Little and Bolt had a $150m price tag. Tangled reportedly had a budget of $260m but that was apparently because the production was a bit of a nightmare. Also it's almost impossible to find a CGI animated movie from a major animated studio (DW, Pixar) with a cost of under $150m these days. I don't know why you're shocked. Just didn't expect it to cost that much. I wasn't aware of what other CGI animated movies costed. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets Magnus wrote: Algren wrote: It won't turn a profit from the US alone. No way, Jose. And no one said it would...but no one also denies the existence of OS boxoffice. Yeah ...  ..... it still won't turn a profit from the US alone. Not sure why you responded to my post when I wasn't instigating anything, instead I was stating a fact. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Re: Production Budgets Routine budget for Ralph.
It looked good (animation wise) from the trailers so I was kinda expecting this budget and given the empty market for animation movies it should do very strong in OS as well.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets Big budget for Skyfall. I don't understand why the budget is that high. They will obviously turn a profit, but still, why so high?? They could have cut that down easily. There are no big stars that demand $20m a movie, and it's just an action movie, and loads of them get produced for $100m or less. They could have trimmed at least $30m off of that in unnecessary expenses, maybe even $50m+.
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Re: Production Budgets QOS also cost $200M but Algren has some good points.
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Re: Production Budgets Actually, Craig got $17m this time...
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Re: Production Budgets Algren wrote: Big budget for Skyfall. I don't understand why the budget is that high. They will obviously turn a profit, but still, why so high?? They could have cut that down easily. There are no big stars that demand $20m a movie, and it's just an action movie, and loads of them get produced for $100m or less. They could have trimmed at least $30m off of that in unnecessary expenses, maybe even $50m+. Umm, filming in Shanghai, Istanbul and Macau. Filming in the HEART OF LONDON. and I am sure Fiennes, Dench, Bardem and Craig cost them quite a hit. Craig got $3.2 million for Casino Royale, $7.2 million for Quantum of Solace and probably $10+ million for Skyfall. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets Well, Daniel Craig got paid $12.7m for Skyfall.
And there are some reports of a $150m budget. Either way, what is the remaining $137.3m or $187.3m going on exactly?
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Re: Production Budgets Since this is a "family" production, I am sure that the producers collect a very nice producer's fee as well...
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets I'd also have thought that they would save money as they make a Bond movie every couple of years. Making a one-off film is expensive, but surely they have contacts and deals that could lower the cost of each production.
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Re: Production Budgets The Bond movies are also infamous for their product placement, with more than even the average Michael Bay film.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets What's that got to do with the budget?
If brands are gaining from PP then they would have to pay the production of Skyfall for the privilege. So, perhaps they gained money from other sources, but that still doesn't explain the over-spending of the intital budget.
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David
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Re: Production Budgets I was wondering how much it would have cost without the aggressive product placement.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets You think that income from the PP is included in that $200m budget?
I can't see that.
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Re: Production Budgets What I tried and obviously failed to convey in my two posts:
Wow, I wonder how much it would have cost without the heavy use of product placement. This is based on the assumption funds generated by product placement help lower the reported budget.
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Re: Production Budgets David wrote: What I tried and obviously failed to convey in my two posts:
Wow, I wonder how much it would have cost without the heavy use of product placement. This is based on the assumption funds generated by product placement help lower the reported budget. I read an article that Product placement deals are worth 50 milion $. ( not counting the advertising money the companies will spend ) Plus we have a Heinekken deal that is worth 75 million $ ( but it's spend mostly in advertising the movie ) http://www.thewrap.com/movies/blog-post ... eken-63786And all sources so far claimed that the movie budget was 150 million $
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