KJ & Wall-E: What Went Wrong?
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baumer72
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loyalfromlondon wrote: KJ & Wall-E: What Went Wrong? Nothing. Last I checked this was a MOVIE WEBSITE. Discussions are bound to take place about certain movies over others. 5 threads. 15 threads. 50 threads. WoKJ, DH, CS, AICN, RT, forums, talkbacks are extreme in their very nature. You're in your home or office typing words, often with passion, and having conversations with people you'll likely never meet. EVER. And yet you do it. Why? Because you're obsessed about movies. If you don't like it, I'd suggest you avoid the forum when TDK hits.  Yep, the Bat-loonies have almost usurped the LOTR loonies as the looniest loonies out there. 
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billybobwashere
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i'm guessing that if you were one of the Wall-E fans, you wouldn't complain about having too many threads. It's only because you weren't anticipating it as much as everyone else and were pissed that people were going so crazy about it that now you wanna lash out at them. I guess it's sorta fair, but I dunno. I personally couldn't get too much Wall-E. 
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:34 pm |
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El Maskado
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Moved the requested posts to an archive. I'll send out a full detail later on when I get with the mods
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:48 pm |
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getluv
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roid after 4 pages of discussion, this guy just comes in and just ruins it. it was un-called for.
anyway moving on...
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:50 pm |
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El Maskado
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yes we are looking into but its best to have all the mods come to a decision.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:52 pm |
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Chippy
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This is obviously a spam thread just to get people riled up. It doesn't matter if it has 5 pages of replies.
There are always 5 or so movies a year that garner a ridiculous amount of threads. Wall-E isn't even the first of the year. So far it is meeting and even surpassing expectations.
A joke of a thread from a joke of a poster.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:03 pm |
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El Maskado
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A WWW is warranted regardless of how anyone feels about the movie. Hell a few of us mods had our lumps with the Indy WWW thread but we are sticking with the rules about allowing it.
Chip just state why you think that it doesnt warrant a WWW thread but keep some of the fights outside the thread that has nothing to do with Wall-E. Also Ive noticed that some of the arguments have gotten very heated and that mark66 needs to be owed an apology. Its ok to make WWW threads but it however shouldnt be used to disrespect people in here. Im not saying its breaking any rules but I dont want people leaving in droves because of this
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:15 pm |
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Chippy
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The only reason you are allowing this is because of your bias against Wall-E. 
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:16 pm |
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El Maskado
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Munk·E wrote: The only reason you are allowing this is because of your bias against Wall-E.  I took my lumps on Indy and that thread is allowed just like TDK will get a WWW thread if it fails to beat POTC2 OW  . I actually liked Wall-E after seeing it. But anyhow lets stay on topic
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:20 pm |
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Chippy
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Roid wrote: Munk·E wrote: The only reason you are allowing this is because of your bias against Wall-E.  I took my lumps on Indy and that thread is allowed just like TDK will get a WWW thread if it fails to beat POTC2 OW  . I actually liked Wall-E after seeing it. But anyhow lets stay on topicThis is my point. There is no topic. This thread was created to get people riled up. Just as discussed by you and many others over the past weeks. It was calculated.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:28 pm |
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getluv
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billybobwashere wrote: i'm guessing that if you were one of the Wall-E fans, you wouldn't complain about having too many threads. It's only because you weren't anticipating it as much as everyone else and were pissed that people were going so crazy about it that now you wanna lash out at them. I guess it's sorta fair, but I dunno. I personally couldn't get too much Wall-E.  thats where me and you differ. less is more sometimes. i'm all for people going crazy, but show some self-respect and courtesy towards other members who don't follow ur wisdom. and i honestly think some people need to take what is being offered in this thread. All other films had to face it, Wall-E fans need just as much as a reality check than anybody else. just next time, be more rational.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:41 pm |
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Maverikk
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I don't see how anybody can call Wall-E's opening anything but underwhelming. I, at least, will admit that the Hulk isn't doing that well. It's still dropping almost 60%. It's a shame, too, because it's good and a crowd pleaser, but Ang Lee screwed it all up for the Hulk. It'll be alright, Wall-E-ites. The world will go on, but you've got to accept that this wasn't as big as expected. 
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:51 pm |
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Chippy
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Yes, because the $100 mil OW club was VERY serious... 
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:05 am |
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getluv
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loyalfromlondon wrote: WWW threads just arent normally this nasty I guess. But Dino has, over the past several months become increasing nasty. Well maybe not Dino, maybe its just Getluv. I still dont understand the idea of playing characters (Getluv, Mav, BKB, BJ...) Nasty in what way? I've always been like this. I'm brutally honest. While I luv u loyal, unfortunately I'm under no obligation to treat u like a queen. I don't do pleasentries. This is an internet site, not real life. There is some real justification for this thread, and u know it. Next time control urself. Your disappointment was just something else to play with. And plus my Wanted club is like so going to win. Yay.
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:54 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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getluv wrote: While I luv u loyal, unfortunately I'm under no obligation to treat u like a queen. Ay, there's the rub...
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:16 am |
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getluv
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loyalfromlondon wrote: You've always been nasty, yes that is correct. But you've become moreso as of late. And its KING, not queen.  thats because a lot of shit has been pissing me off lately. UFOs, WallE, quick reply. i honestly do luv KJ and u. i really don't think people should take what i say personally, and i don't think they do anyway. just be thankful i'm not pulling your leg to get ahead. and its queen. only a bitch would act like this.
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:31 am |
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getluv
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loyalfromlondon wrote: You need to relax a bit if Pixar, UFOs, and QP are pissing you off this much.. Get some anal beads, try yoga, something.
I'll fly over and fuck you if it'll talk you down off the ledge. lolz. personally, KJ has never been better and i live for drama. but i've been stressed lately cuz of exams and the daily stresses of life. personally i'm only psycho in very few threads. im mostly ok in others, especially in the Water Cooler, TV, Music forums. i just wish Box left Michael alone. now that shit is sick. and im really sorry for the grief ive caused Roid and bABA over the past week. i don't understand the concept of please and thank u. but i got wat i wanted in the end. Guybrush, Argos and Snakebite have all been drowned. but it was a virtual suicide in the end. but back on topic, i was this crazy at BOM when fanboys use to lose their shit. ask magnus. i wouldn't of made such an issue out of Wall-E if it wasn't for the OTTness many of u freaks displayed that is very similar to how BOMers behave.
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:57 am |
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BK
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People are entitled to be excited and enthusiastic getluv. Sometimes it goes too far but it's all fun in it, I mean, without the crazy predictions there would be no discussion. Some of the predictions were backed up fairly well too, so yeah, it's all in the spirit of things, don't have to get all riled up. it's not good for you. 
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Proud Ryu
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What's most interesting to me about Wall-E's performance is the "failure" of the brand name of Pixar to so dominate the market this weekend the way its fictional product BnL did in the movie, which contributed to the collapse of humanity. It even barely managed to beat KFP out of gate. I hope Pixar takes this as a good sign that competition is still our economy's driving force and that brand loyalty isn't inevitable. I hope that is actually the case with all other products too.
And honestly, despite the reviews, and as much as I liked it, I think it will struggle to top The Incredibles, though I had hoped against all possible hope that it would beat Nemo.
Still, I can't say it's too bad of a thing if people take to aquatic life better than post-apocalyptic machine dominance, even though a major theme in Wall-E is "life finds a way." In that regard, Wall-E almost plays like an art film to the average Joe's sensibilities. And I suppose that makes up much of the divide between KJ's optimistic expectation of reality and actual reality.
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First of all, I haven't seen WALL-E, it's being released over here in September. If people followed some of the discussions they know that I was a true believer that WALL-E might develop excellent legs. But I can't help it, it seems to me, that it is going in the wrong direction. First the weekend was lower than what I hoped for, than the Monday gross was a little bit lower than expected and now the Tuesday gross appears to be a bit on the low side. So my question is: Is it possible that WALL-E offends obese (or simply overweight) people thus killing any favorite WOM among the many overweight Jabbas in the U.S.? This is a serious question of mine because I haven't seen the movie, I hope for a serious answer as well... 
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mark66 wrote: First of all, I haven't seen WALL-E, it's being released over here in September. If people followed some of the discussions they know that I was a true believer that WALL-E might develop excellent legs. But I can't help it, it seems to me, that it is going in the wrong direction. First the weekend was lower than what I hoped for, than the Monday gross was a little bit lower than expected and now the Tuesday gross appears to be a bit on the low side. So my question is: Is it possible that WALL-E offends obese (or simply overweight) people thus killing any favorite WOM among the many overweight Jabbas in the U.S.? This is a serious question of mine because I haven't seen the movie, I hope for a serious answer as well...  I don't really think so. I think it's America's stupid new obsession with any sort of moral or message being "political and evil," that could be responsible. Or that mainstream filmgoers can't handle the lack of the menial, pop-culture reference ridden over dialogue that they so desire. Still, it's early.
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mark66
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I know that Harry Knowles loved WALL-E and he's Jabba-ish, but he's a film geek.
So you think that there's nothing in the movie which regular Joe-Jabbas might not like?
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mark66 wrote: I know that Harry Knowles loved WALL-E and he's Jabba-ish, but he's a film geek.
So you think that there's nothing in the movie which regular Joe-Jabbas might not like? Wall-E never really criticized obese people per say. It seemed more like a jab on capitalism by saying that it was the big companies in the name of profit that were making society fat and sedentary. If anything Wall-E gave the obese people another excuse for being so out of shape.
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mark66 wrote: I know that Harry Knowles loved WALL-E and he's Jabba-ish, but he's a film geek.
So you think that there's nothing in the movie which regular Joe-Jabbas might not like? I don't know, it could be possible, although they would simply dismiss it for it's broader environmental message rather than it's commentary on obesity (which stems from the same thing, but w/e). I really don't know how to explain it's performance at this point. The WOM is clearly incredible (and that's not really arguable) and the buzz was certainly there. I do think Wanted ripped into it more than most realize though...WALL-E certainly could have pulled in at least some of the late-teen demographics just based off of the fact that most people that age grew up with Pixar, but they all behaved like the foolish teenagers that they are and opted for Wanted instead.
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Speevy wrote: mark66 wrote: I know that Harry Knowles loved WALL-E and he's Jabba-ish, but he's a film geek.
So you think that there's nothing in the movie which regular Joe-Jabbas might not like? Wall-E never really criticized obese people per say. It seemed more like a jab on capitalism by saying that it was the big companies in the name of profit that were making society fat and sedentary. If anything Wall-E gave the obese people another excuse for being so out of shape. The audience that would be offended by such a silly thing wouldn't understand that.
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