25 million opening(every1 will be spazzing and it will be called a flop)

extremely leggy and will top out at 130


total and opening could be bigger it depends if fox finally gets the teaser out

Yeah, I agree. If it's not showing before August, the film's in trouble.

I still think audiences are craving for fantasy epics in the winter, so I believe in a $150+ million gross definitely. Lemony Snicket's is much much smaller-scale as far as the film goes.

Dragon FX looked solid, though Saphira didn't really do anything for me, it was more out of sheer visual design than
CGI fx. The visual design is similar to the book covers.

Rest of the quasi trailer however, wildly reminiscent of Dungeons & Dragons, Jeremy Irons was very impressive however.

As of Friday the first Fox film set to show the trailer, sadly, is going to be PATHFINDER as things are now.

Pathfinder? Yikes. I guess there's not much choice now, but still, that's not a film many will see.

Yeah, it may fail to do 200 mil+ like we hoped, but I don't think they'll fuck up as much as Lemony Snicket. That film had the problem of pissing off the fans, which is a big no no. Making the look completley wrong, turning it into Jim Carrey slapstick, the 3 stories in one movie thing, they bombed on that. Eragon will need a terrible campaign to approach what Lemony Snicket did.

Its coming out in four months and we have yet to se a single SECOND of fottage from the film.

How is this suppose to be the winter hit again?

Opening: 32.0
Total: 122.9 (3.84)

Pathfinder comes out in January, I've heard Snakes on a Plane as a possible film the trailer could come out with. I'm getting concerned, if they can come out with great footage for Comic-Con how come a trailer hasn't come out? People said the effects looked great and they don't have to release the trailer with a FOX film,whats the hold up?

To be honest, I think people have lost all their objectivity when it comes to this film. Working on the same GENRE as LOTR, HP and Narnia doesn't mean that this film will be a huge hit. The assumption that working on a same genre as more popular movies makes this movie popular as well is plain ridicilous.

I think this film won't even come come close to 100 million. It seems to have all the ingredients of a bomb.

1. LOTR, HP and Narnia are the three BIGGEST fantasy books of all time, and among the biggest books of all time regardless of the genre. Eragon is a book nobody has heard of, expect for a very small group of people.

2. It's directed by a guy who has never directed anything, he's done only SFX work on other movies. And he is 46-year old, so you can hardly call him a new, hot up-and-coming talent.

3. While there are a few great actors in the cast, they are also known for their tencency to be in crap movies for a paycheck. In fact Jeremy Irons has made a career out of this principle, which is admittedly a shame for a man of such great talent.

4. The poster is average at best. (Personally I think it's rather poor and unappealing)

5. The footage in the fan-made trailer looks mediocre in terms of production value, and the film itself looks small-scale.

6. The film has already once been pushed 6 months. Now, this doesn't always mean trouble, but it often does.

7. It's coming out in just 4 months, and there hasn't been even ONE SECOND of official marketing. It seems pretty clear that the studio is more or less abandoning the film. When was the last time that a supposed high profile film didn't have any marketing out at this point? I can't remember. Doesn't exactly make me feel confident about this flick.

8. The general internet buzz is pretty much zero. If go around movie sites around the net, barely anyone mentions this film. And internet geeks should definitely be the ones who are paying attention to a film like this. If they don't care, mainstream cares even less.

9. Admittedly there isn't that much Christmas competition when compared to recent years, but Charlotte's Web opens 5 days later (Looks like a hit, could be really big), Night At the Museum opens 7 days later (Looks like a BIG hit, could be huge). There are a lot of high profile movies in the holiday season, but the two movies above are thh most obvious threat.

...So what are the reasons to assume that Eragon will break out?

The only reason I see is that it's the only action-oriented movie of the season. So the lack of competition is the biggest factor. But lack of competition doesn't make a movie hit, the film itself needs to look appealing. The lack of competition will only make life easier for it, if it manages to open well.

But at the moment there isn't anything about the film which would look appealing. Except that Sienna Guillory is hot, and it has some excellent senior actors.

20/75

The marketing was really, really, REALLY screwed up on this one. I just finished the book two days ago and it is really some good fantasy stuff, perfect for a big-scale epic film. Not sure what exactly went wrong there. Usually Fox is great at marketing...

Not sure if these character posters have been posted already...

Well at least those look good.

Seriously though, what.the fuck.is fox.doing.

Even thought I just ripped a new asshole to the film, I admit that the character sheets look good. They also reveal why the poster is poor: It has been just copy-pasted together from the character sheets.

Thats a good argument you have there. If FOX doesnt somehoe put the marketing into full gear in the next few weeks - then I think everything you say will come true.

I truly hope the trailer is online in the next week. I've heard it might play with SOAP, so I'm hoping.

If they manage to put a kickass trailer out in the upcoming weeks, then I'm willing to do a 180 degree turnaround. There is definitely room, and demand for an action-oriented fantasy epic in the christman season. There is no HP, Narnia or LOTR to draw the audiences.

But the lack of marketing hints that the studio has lost it's faith, and there isn't any footage to cut a kickas trailer from.

Hopefully I'm proven wrong. I do actually hope that it all turns out good and we get to see a good dragon actioner.

Well, looking at the comments on one fanmade trailer on YouTube, someone mentions that the trailer is supposed to hit the 'Net on August 16?

Anyway, the only footage I've seen (and it was just within the past few minutes) is from the fanmade trailers on YouTube..... and I'm REALLY not getting a good feel for it.

I think the posters look "okay", but really not that great.

I haven't read the books, but I did read the first chapter on the book's website.... and, well, it definitely made me uninterested in reading more.

I'm definitely seeing a Dungeons & Dragons type of success... aka, not much beyond the hardcore fans... And interesting to note is that I'm not remotely interested in DnD the game, but I was interested in and liked the DnD movie (more of a guilty pleasure, but still)...... but I'm so far completely unimpressed by what I've seen (and due to its bad marketing, not much) for Eragon. I may end up seeing it if my dad invites me along, just to satisfy any curiosity (plus for the costumes.... costumes are really my downfall when it comes to deciding whether or not to see a movie I'm not particularly interested in).

I'll go with 25m/80m.

EDIT: Oh, and I can't wait to see if Jeremy Irons eats the scenery in this one like he did DnD.... That's one reason DnD's so much fun to watch--to laugh at the chewing, spitting, and re-chewing of the scenery... HAHAHA

Joy

BJs New Prediction:

26 | 105m

The fanbase from those who have read the book is enough for a Lemony Snicket
type of opening/run. The fantasy angle/time of year will add to that even if the marketing
continues to suck. So at the worst, I see this doing a 35M opening and a 125M. If the trailer
and/or TV ads are any good at all, it should do much better.

17/58

Fox can do great campaigns for there tentpoles, but there's plenty of times when they've dropped the ball big time. If they really had planned on trying that hard for Eragon I think they'd have started marketing it earlier. The film doesn't have any stars, no name recognition, and an unconvincing "fanbase" (I'm sure 90% of the readers who will see this would've seen it anyways even if this hadn't been a book). Everything we've seen from the production looks very subpar, and I think this will get killed by the very busy competition. If the trailer is incredible I'll change my prediction, but I'm as confident about Eragon dissapointing as I am for a reason.

You dont have to stick by it. You nor anybody else would have known Fox would drop the ball marketing wise when you first made the prediction.

BUT - $200m is by no means out of the question if a good trailer comes out soon. Ive still got it above $160m.

I don't understand how this film could be hard to market for Fox. I read the book, it is really good, but by the numbers fantasy. Just put in some great voiceover, nice dragon shots, some big battle shots with monsters and you've already got your big hit right there.

What are the possibilities it will be delayed?

I think probably none - seeing as there arent any decent release dates left in 2007. Even the year end is full of fantasy films so it has no option really.

Well they (from what I read) showed some pretty awesome footage at Comic Con and the reports were that the special effects were great, whats the hold up put a trailer out already that's all I want. It doesn't have to be released with a FOX film.

Fox is going with BORAT on Snakes on a Plane and right now with a debut of ERAGON and DECK THE HALLS on EVERYONE'S HERO. There is a slight possibility of a debut of ERAGON with COVENANT.

Yes, Everyone's Hero.

I saw the footage at Comic Con and if that's what they would have had to run with, I can see why they postponed the debut,
it's way too reminiscent of Dungeons and Dragons. It could have been possible to recut so it wouldn't be but considering the limited all audiences targets they have left they really just have one shot to get a great trailer out there.

The FX shots actually weren't bad, it's the character and costume designs that are largely rinky.