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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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BOM full numbersEight films above $5 million. That's pretty dang incredible. Honestly, just about everything in the Top 13 did pretty well. Believe looks like the only genuine loser this week (well, and 47 Ronin, but that was always doomed). I'm comparing the films to the 2002 holiday to see how stuff will hold over the coming days, and they hold nearly as well as those films did we're in for an insane few days - six films over $20 million for the weekend and ten over $10 million aren't impossible (though a couple films will probably faulter enough to keep it from happening). And the Top 10 adds up to $67.3 million, less than a million shy of last year's Christmas despite not having any movies close to Les Miz or Django.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:19 pm |
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Brian
Ocarina of Time
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:21 pm Posts: 7951 Location: Hyrule
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nice numbers all around
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:34 pm |
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Dil
Forum General
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 pm Posts: 8942 Location: Houston, Texas
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Overall, very solid numbers all around, but that Cinemascore for Wolf is definitely troublesome. I wonder if it actually has more to do with this type of film being released on Christmas rather than the actual movie itself ?
The reactions on twitter last night seemed positive for the most part with the only real complaints being it's not a movie to see with the family and the excessive length. Many of the positive comments were also coming from people under the age of 30.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:38 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Lots of depth in the marketplace this Christmas. Wolf of Wall Street (despite its possibly alarming CinemaScore) opened with a bang, Walter Mitty did very well, and even 47 Ronin did much better than I expected (though it's still basically a bomb with its huge budget).
Grudge Match did OK, Mandela expanded OK, and Believe tanked (is Justin Bieber over please someone say so).
Impressive performances for most of the holdovers. Anchorman 2 is staying solid, American Hustle is doing really awesome (it should do $20M+ this weekend which is fantastic), and Saving Mr. Banks is benefiting from the season as expected.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:38 pm |
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bl1222
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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It looks like either "The Hobbit" or "Frozen" will be #1 this weekend. Frozen has a strong chance because it has been holding well through the holidays and it had the lowest increase in the top 10 yesterday, which means it may get a boost tomorrow.
"Wolf of Wall Street" opened well but that C cinemascore doesn't bode well for its run. I'd be surprised if it cracks $100M DOM.
"American Hustle" did well and could possibly beat "Anchorman 2" this weekend.
"Walter Mitty" had a solid opening day but would need to hold well to avoid it being a flop because of its $91M cost.
"47 Ronin" did better than I expected but will fall fast despite its good WOM.
"Grudge Match" and "Mandela" could have done better but "Believe" flopped big time.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:04 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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CINEMASCORES DON'T MATTER
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:08 pm |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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Believe bombing couldn't have been a better X-mas present to movie goers everywhere.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:10 pm |
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bl1222
Veteran
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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Chippy wrote: CINEMASCORES DON'T MATTER You're right. The Ring got a mediocre B- but had very strong legs with $129M domestically despite a $15M opening. "Vanilla Sky" got a D- but still had a multiplier close to 4 and closed with $100M domestically. Today's drop will determine if WOWS can crack $100M or not but it doesn't look it will happen for now.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:10 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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bl1222 wrote: Chippy wrote: CINEMASCORES DON'T MATTER You're right. The Ring got a mediocre B- but had very strong legs with $129M domestically despite a $15M opening. "Vanilla Sky" got a D- but still had a multiplier close to 4 and closed with $100M domestically. Today's drop will determine if WOWS can crack $100M or not but it doesn't look it will happen for now. Vanilla Sky had December. Its holds were weak for the genre.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:14 pm |
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TServo2049
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:17 pm Posts: 572
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Interesting to note that while the top 10 came in under last Christmas, thanks to CF the top 12 is actually 15% more. (And another  at Dinosaurs - it only made $550k more than the widely-heralded "flop" Rise of the Guardians made last Christmas, despite Guardians being in its 5th week and playing in 1,200 fewer locations!) And I'm also looking at BO.com, which includes more holdovers that BOM doesn't - Gravity made as much in 175 locations as it made two Wednesdays ago in 900, and had a ridiculous per-theater average of $743. Yes, its PTA was higher than Dinosaurs'! The total grosses BO has added up for yesterday already edge out last Christmas - even with Sony, Paramount, Universal, Lionsgate and Relativity not reporting holdover numbers.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:15 pm |
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bl1222
Veteran
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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DP07 wrote: Vanilla Sky had December. Its holds were weak for the type of movie it was. So does WOWS. Thanks for the info. 
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:15 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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bl1222 wrote: DP07 wrote: Vanilla Sky had December. Its holds were weak for the type of movie it was. So does WOWS. Thanks for the info.  So did Ali. Different weekend.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:17 pm |
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pro1986
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 am Posts: 505
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Find it interesting that despite opening to only 16 million Made a is on its way to a 55 million total. That's about the normal range for TP films and would make it another hit for him.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:35 pm |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 35205 Location: Minnesota
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47 Ronin had a strong number. Will make more than most people predicted.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:41 pm |
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Mesjarch
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 5:41 am Posts: 2388 Location: Poland
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With these numbers CF should end up with around 407 milion after next weekend.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:46 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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pro1986 wrote: Find it interesting that despite opening to only 16 million Made a is on its way to a 55 million total. That's about the normal range for TP films and would make it another hit for him. Yeah, it seems expectations simply didn't take into account the release date.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:54 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:52 pm Posts: 16020
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Anchorman 2 seems to have recovered nicely. Most people I know were surprised it was even open last weekend...
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:33 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21856 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Big Story of the weekend is Holdovers. Anchorman is heading 130+ right now and American Hustle wasn't hurt by Wolf, it's going to have a great run. Saving Mr. Banks is the big winner. I wouldn't rule out 100 million if it keeps doing well.
Wolf did fine, it's directly on par with Catch Me if You can. It may not have a ridiculous gross, but everyone I know seems to like it. I don't think WOM is so rough that they'll be discouraged to see it.
I think people are getting overworked on Mitty. Didn't it open at 4PM on Tuesday, it could have made upwards to 2 million and it's Wed could be under 6 million. I think Ronin could actually outgross it.
Wolf is doing fine, it's actually right on par with Catch Me if You Can. It's cinema score doesn't really bother me.
Grudge Match did fine enough. Should be able to pass 50 million with that number. That should be considered a gift for the Stallone fans out there. Might give him one more chance outside of The Expendables to get a theatrical release.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:41 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Is Wolf on par with Catch Me If You Can?
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:10 pm |
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1924
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:43 pm Posts: 1079
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Can someone create some projected weekend numbers for the new films and main holdovers?
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:29 pm |
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SquareMaster316
Angels & Demons
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:01 pm Posts: 204
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Thor 2, Delivery Man, Best Man's Holiday and Home Front all dropped.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:43 pm |
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TServo2049
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:17 pm Posts: 572
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SquareMaster316 wrote: Thor 2, Delivery Man, Best Man's Holiday and Home Front all dropped. They all lost a lot of theaters yesterday. (Open Road never released a Christmas theater count for Homefront, but there is no way it is still playing in 675 locations like it was pre-Christmas. Looking up on Fandango and MovieTickets, I can find almost no locations showing it. I would honestly be surprised if it's post-Christmas count is still triple digits.)
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:00 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:24 pm Posts: 4110 Location: Stuck In A Moment I Can't Get Out Of
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The Hobbit had a better increase than its predecessor on Christmas Day, which is good news.
Good start for The Wolf of Wall Street. It's less than two-thirds of what Django Unchained made last year, but it's also a more difficult sell (which is an odd thing to be saying when Django was a brutally violent 165-minute revenge fantasy opening on Christmas). I wouldn't worry about the CinemaScore. We knew that it was going to be very divisive, and the people who are on the film's side seem to be loving it.
Anchorman 2 is still putting up steady grosses, even if I expected it to be higher prior to last weekend.
American Hustle kicked ass on Christmas. The fact that it's going to have long-term durability as well just makes its performance even more impressive.
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty and 47 Ronin both did a bit better than I was anticipating. Walter Mitty looks interesting, but it also looks odd enough that I would not have been surprised to see it get lost in the shuffle. 47 Ronin looked like a bomb through-and-through, but while a $7 million opening day isn't great, it means that the film won't be as much of a disaster as I thought it would be at the box office.
Frozen is still performing really well. Christmas isn't typically the best day for family films (although this one presents a different case given its snowy setting), so I expect that it should shoot its way up the chart today. It's unlikely to overtake The Hobbit for #1, but it's still going to have a great gross today and over the weekend.
Saving Mr. Banks picked up some steam. I think it was better fit for a Christmas Day release from the get-go.
Grudge Match is a meh performer, but something had to be amid the other performances of varying strength. Given that reviews were pretty bad and the market is crowded, Warner Bros would have fared best with a January release (which, if I recall correctly, was the original plan).
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:24 pm |
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Skyblade
Wall-E
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:07 am Posts: 879
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Quote: Good start for The Wolf of Wall Street. It's less than two-thirds of what Django Unchained made last year, but it's also a more difficult sell (which is an odd thing to be saying when Django was a brutally violent 165-minute revenge fantasy opening on Christmas). Shooting people to bloody ribbons is one thing, but sodomizing yourself is just beyond the pale.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:32 pm |
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Spidey
Teenage Dream
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:13 pm Posts: 10678
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Webslinger wrote: Grudge Match is a meh performer, but something had to be amid the other performances of varying strength. Given that reviews were pretty bad and the market is crowded, Warner Bros would have fared best with a January release (which, if I recall correctly, was the original plan). Yes, Grudge Match was originally scheduled for release on January 10, 2014, but then was moved up to Christmas Day.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:09 pm |
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