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someone explain to me how kanye is talented?
i know he can make good beats but that is not enough to be considered talent.

"You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is"

talent.......talent.......no
and that whole "Work out PLan" song oh blah that was condidered talent?

Workout Plan Lyrics
[Girl #1]
Ay Wussup gurl

[Girl #2]
Heyy gurl

[Girl #3]
Hey How u doin'?

[Girl #1]
Ay you know i finally got my shit together been watchin that workout plan gurl!!

[Girl #2]
Well you lookin' all good and stuff you got you a-

[Girl #1]
Gurl i know it's that workout

[Girl #2]
Got you a six pack shakuar and stuff

[Girl #1]
Don't say it

[Girl #3]
my nigga my nigga i'm tired of puttin 1-8-7 in my niggas pager that shit aint workin' no more

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know i'ma video hofesional now (Gurl) since i copped this new workout plan my shit
is right rollin' in lexus, acruasss everything gurll

[Girl #3]
Gurl u need to let me know where i can cop that how much is it?

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know you ain't gotta pay nuttin' around me i'm tha bootleg queeen i'll give it to
you for free.99

[Both girl #2, and #3]
FREE.99!!

[Girl #3]
That's my dawg you always lookin out for us

[Girl #2]
My nigga now i can throw away my bus pass and shit oh my God

[Girl #3]
Oh shit


TALENT????????



and for this whole Bloodshy and Avant crap, it is Spears song (which she chose to release) they may have c-wrote it but the award wasn't for composition it was for the final product. Blah i guess half the people that worked on ushers cd want his grammy's?? :roll:

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Casey wrote:
someone explain to me how kanye is talented?
i know he can make good beats but that is not enough to be considered talent.

"You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is"

talent.......talent.......no
and that whole "Work out PLan" song oh blah that was condidered talent?

Workout Plan Lyrics
[Girl #1]
Ay Wussup gurl

[Girl #2]
Heyy gurl

[Girl #3]
Hey How u doin'?

[Girl #1]
Ay you know i finally got my shit together been watchin that workout plan gurl!!

[Girl #2]
Well you lookin' all good and stuff you got you a-

[Girl #1]
Gurl i know it's that workout

[Girl #2]
Got you a six pack shakuar and stuff

[Girl #1]
Don't say it

[Girl #3]
my nigga my nigga i'm tired of puttin 1-8-7 in my niggas pager that shit aint workin' no more

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know i'ma video hofesional now (Gurl) since i copped this new workout plan my shit
is right rollin' in lexus, acruasss everything gurll

[Girl #3]
Gurl u need to let me know where i can cop that how much is it?

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know you ain't gotta pay nuttin' around me i'm tha bootleg queeen i'll give it to
you for free.99

[Both girl #2, and #3]
FREE.99!!

[Girl #3]
That's my dawg you always lookin out for us

[Girl #2]
My nigga now i can throw away my bus pass and shit oh my God

[Girl #3]
Oh shit


TALENT????????



and for this whole Bloodshy and Avant crap, it is Spears song (which she chose to release) they may have c-wrote it but the award wasn't for composition it was for the final product. Blah i guess half the people that worked on ushers cd want his grammy's?? :roll:



OK the first lyrics you provided were from the first vers of Jesus walks....which is a very good song by the way. Why don you show some more of his lyrics. He also writes all his shit, write music for other artists...produces, lays tracs.....everything.

I am willing to be that majority of people would say kanye is more talented than britney.

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Casey wrote:
someone explain to me how kanye is talented?
i know he can make good beats but that is not enough to be considered talent.

"You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is"

talent.......talent.......no
and that whole "Work out PLan" song oh blah that was condidered talent?

Workout Plan Lyrics
[Girl #1]
Ay Wussup gurl

[Girl #2]
Heyy gurl

[Girl #3]
Hey How u doin'?

[Girl #1]
Ay you know i finally got my shit together been watchin that workout plan gurl!!

[Girl #2]
Well you lookin' all good and stuff you got you a-

[Girl #1]
Gurl i know it's that workout

[Girl #2]
Got you a six pack shakuar and stuff

[Girl #1]
Don't say it

[Girl #3]
my nigga my nigga i'm tired of puttin 1-8-7 in my niggas pager that shit aint workin' no more

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know i'ma video hofesional now (Gurl) since i copped this new workout plan my shit
is right rollin' in lexus, acruasss everything gurll

[Girl #3]
Gurl u need to let me know where i can cop that how much is it?

[Girl #1]
Gurl you know you ain't gotta pay nuttin' around me i'm tha bootleg queeen i'll give it to
you for free.99

[Both girl #2, and #3]
FREE.99!!

[Girl #3]
That's my dawg you always lookin out for us

[Girl #2]
My nigga now i can throw away my bus pass and shit oh my God

[Girl #3]
Oh shit


TALENT????????



and for this whole Bloodshy and Avant crap, it is Spears song (which she chose to release) they may have c-wrote it but the award wasn't for composition it was for the final product. Blah i guess half the people that worked on ushers cd want his grammy's?? :roll:



OK the first lyrics you provided were from the first vers of Jesus walks....which is a very good song by the way. Why don you show some more of his lyrics. He also writes all his shit, write music for other artists...produces, lays tracs.....everything.

I am willing to be that majority of people would say kanye is more talented than britney.


OK

Baby, can��t you see
I��m calling
A guy like you
Should wear a warning
It��s dangerous
I��m fallin��

There��s no escape
I can��t hide
I need a hit
Baby, give me it
You��re dangerous
I��m lovin�� i

(pure talent right there :roll: )

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Before you go slagging of Britney Spears - that song was penned by Cathy Dennis - one of musics most powerful songwriters right now whos penned many huge superhits. So in essence your not slagging of Britney Spears; your slagging of a hugely succesful songwriter whos formula has provided her with ALOT of money and success.

Plus i think Toxic is lyrical genius.

Kanye West is sure a talented producer - he knows the ins and outs; but his lyrics are still weak and his voice simply isnt one that suits the stuff he presents.

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Since I obviously don't know crap about music, let me ask all the music geniuses on this board.....


If Britney Spears doesn't produce her own music, only co-writes it, and is not that talented of a vocalist, what exactly makes her a better artist than Kanye?

I don't even know what it has to do with anything, since she didn't go up against Kanye in anything at the Gramys, but Britney/Hilary fans always seem to manae to bring up more talented artists and say how they are not as talented as the amazing Britney?

Being a good producer is not enough to consider someone talented? Pleeeeease...I can name a dozen classic songs with ho-hum lyrics/vocals that are classics because of its production. Can you name a classic song with bad production?

But his talent goes beyond producing. you know, ugh. I can't even believe I'm defending his talent now, that what you music know-it-alls make me do.

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Cathy Dennis is very talented, Britney not so much, I can take the song Ms. Dennis wrote, have osmeone else sing and it still be popular.

I like Toxic, but I think another popular singer could have ridden to success. Spears has anice body, is a good dancer, and yes she sing, but I could say that about alot of singers.

West has some excellent lyrics, for example All Falls Down, a great song because it cathes your attention, and at the same time has some very important ideas to convey, as does Jesus Walks. Sure Slow Jamz is not Shakespeare, its just fun.

At the end of the day if you ask who is more talented, West or Spears, I'm picking West each and every day of the week.

I find it amusing that West is accused of haing poor lyrics, would you prefer the lyrics of Chingy?


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Well, Kanye and Britney are two very different styles, so I don't really see why they're being compared.

I like both, but if I had to pick I'd pick Britney, since she entertains me more. And I think Toxic is the best pop song of the last decade. Very deserving win.

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Korrgan wrote:
Well, Kanye and Britney are two very different styles, so I don't really see why they're being compared.

I like both, but if I had to pick I'd pick Britney, since she entertains me more. And I think Toxic is the best pop song of the last decade. Very deserving win.


You're completely missing the point though.

Certain people are claiming Britney Spears is a more talented artist, and while I do like her music...she's mnot very resposible for it. She co-writes some of it, but anyone could do the same job, it features her vocals, they're not that great to the point where only she could achieve the songs...she doesn't produce or anything.

Kanye on the other hand is almost completely resposible for the music that is released under his name.

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i don;t recall saying "Britney is more talented than Kanye" i do recall saying kanye is not as talented as people put him out to be and he did not deserve his grammy wins. I am not saying britney is a high ranged vocalists that can sing top of the line but i am saying i like her voice.

And yes i would say that britney's lyrics are better than kanyes becasue his lyrics are crap!

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Casey wrote:
i don;t recall saying "Britney is more talented than Kanye" i do recall saying kanye is not as talented as people put him out to be and he did not deserve his grammy wins. I am not saying britney is a high ranged vocalists that can sing top of the line but i am saying i like her voice.

And yes i would say that britney's lyrics are better than kanyes becasue his lyrics are crap!


Are you claiming every song he wrote on his album has crap lyrics?


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Ok, then wanna compare an allegedly bad song to another one?

Outrageous when i move my body
Outrageous when im at a party
Outrageous in my sexy jeans
Outrageous when im on the scene
Outrageous my sex drive
Outrageous my shopping spree
Outrageous we on a world tour
Outrageous..must be a girl!

sexy as i wanna be
got these fellas chasin me
it's bout time i hit the streets
all my girls still feelin me
'B' girl aint lost the beat
jumped over drama and i landed on my feet
gotta keep goin no stoppin me
and if you dont like it then
lalalalalalala


Shakespeare would be jealous.

and I can't believe every single freaking time I end up doing this. You wanna believe Britney's gonna change the music world with her grounbreaking music, you keep thinking that...

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Kanye West is miles ahead of Britney. Some of Britney's music is really good, and In The Zone was her best album, but I don't think she compares to Kanye West at all. He's a very intelligent guy, that not only produces his own music, but writes all of his own material, and they are filled with meaningful lyrics. Britney's material lacks anything mature, but its fun to listen to. Just my two cents.


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[quote="Rod"]Ok, then wanna compare an allegedly bad song to another one?

Outrageous when i move my body
Outrageous when im at a party
Outrageous in my sexy jeans
Outrageous when im on the scene
Outrageous my sex drive
Outrageous my shopping spree
Outrageous we on a world tour
Outrageous..must be a girl!

sexy as i wanna be
got these fellas chasin me
it's bout time i hit the streets
all my girls still feelin me
'B' girl aint lost the beat
jumped over drama and i landed on my feet
gotta keep goin no stoppin me
and if you dont like it then
lalalalalalala


Shakespeare would be jealous.

and I can't believe every single freaking time I end up doing this. You wanna believe Britney's gonna change the music world with her grounbreaking music, you keep thinking that...[/quote]

Rod when will you accept the fact, I do not like britney as much as i used to, I have never thought that and i never will. The bands and artists i listen to now all have meaningful lyrics and are 100x better than anything kanye could ever come up with. I still believe that most of kanyes lyrics suck but i still THINK"my opinion" that britney still has better lyrics. Which here lyrics are not of expertise either but i still THINK"my opinion" that she is better. And if you compare her lyrics with kanyes expertise :roll: please do it with a song she co-wrote

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