50 dead in Orlando.

"Complete DISASTER" - Trump

Surprise, surprise. It seems he was a ...

I don't even know what to say any more

Something has to change.

Nothing will.

Orlando having two huge, tragic shooting stories occurring in just two days.

Senseless. There needs to be change.

I'm fucking devastated.

Fuck...

Condolences to the families of the murdered.

(The title of this thread is incorrect.)

Fucking smartass

Sad.

Killing innocents is never the way out.

What change would you propose? I do not know any more what could have prevented these horrific killings.

As a result of this, more people will want to buy more guns to protect themselves, and the NRA will become even more powerful.

I'm not sure of the stats, but as long as the majority owns a gun, better gun control is never going to happen because it would just work against people's self-interest at that point.

None of those were committed in the United States, as the United Stated were not formed yet.

Getting rid of assault rifles, universal background checks, and making watch list suspects unable to buy a gun would have PROBABLY prevented this.

Wounded Knee?

I wouldn't call wounded knee a mass shooting, more of a massacre.

These might have deterred some gun-related crimes. But since guns are still easy to access, it would take years before the measures will have some significant positive impact.

So, we don't do anything now, or are you just stating it would not be a quick fix?

We can do a ton of thing we just choose not, because not enough people vote. If enough people voted consistently enough we could make changes. We have made traveling on the highway 10 times safer per million miles traveled than it was 45 years ago, because we made seat belt laws and DUI laws that infringed on our personal liberty, because we decide the public safety overruled the liberty to be irresponsible. We added safety features like air bags as well. Another liberal justice on the Supreme Court overturns Heller most likely, allowing stricter gun controls at least on the state level.

Why aren't we all queer or gay now like with other attacks like Charlie Hebdo, Paris, and Belgium? Is it because he was a lone wolf or something else?

I used the term queer since that seems like the more defiant self identifier, but I don't mean to offend.

Americans are fucking idiots.

Honestly, I'm pass the point of caring with these killing sprees.

You fuckers know what needs to be done, if you don't vote or stand up for your real rights (not 2nd Amendment NRA generic BS) this shit will not stop happening.

What the fuck's the use of continuing to say "This must stop" and "Pray for" and "Our hearts go out". The victims don't give a shit, they are dead because of your collective stupidity.

Now, if some of the dead have been any sort of activist, I am sorry for their deaths. They tried and they were felled. But any one who partakes in ignorance cannot then invoke injustice when they end up dead. They had all their life to try. Obviously something like Sandy Hook would be an exception.

Look at the Middle East. It's not PC to say, but they have been allowing their country's leaders to oppress them for years. They have no one else to blame now but themselves for the extremism. Sure, they don't want to die, but they have a part to play. Yeah, Western governments and etc played a part, but at the end of the day, they are the ones living there. I say this, being responsible as well, living in one of the most corrupted countries in the world. But, being a hypocrite, does not mean that one is unable to point out the same in other places.

RIP Orlando 50. Your lives have been in vain.

America; worst country in the world. I wouldn't live there in a million years.

We've finally arrived.

Ever think maybe the laws are the way people actually want them to be? Maybe the lack of voting isn't the issue. Afterall, a plurality of GOP Primary voters just nominated a fucking moron.

Yeah, they were not americans...And besides the government/Europeans supported those, totally different.