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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21472 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Do you illegally download media?
I talk to lots of people who say they pirate music movies and more off the internet. It really astounds me that people think this is okay. Its really no different from going to a store and stealing a disc other than they won't get caught. They justify it by saying it's overpriced and the people who make The movies or music are rich and won't miss the money. I don't understand how their conscience doesn't bother them. Has anyone here ever illegally downloaded media? If you have, why. Do you regret it? If not, why?
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:21 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32580 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Do you illegally download media?
I haven't in awhile but I used to all the time. Pirates Bay was my homepage lol I did it mainly for weekly tv shows. Made it easier to binge watch. I didn't care if it was morally wrong or against the law.
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:24 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21856 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Do you illegally download media?
Only music, I have a great site from news days for ripping. Movies have never really interested me. Got to see it theater first. OD my fri be has a super theater at home if i want to watch that.
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:36 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21472 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Do you illegally download media?
When it comes to music, I mean actually downloading it and listening to it without ads. So Youtube, Pandora, Spotify, etc. do not count as stealing music, unless of course the music is illegally on the site.
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:08 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Do you illegally download media?
I download music, TV, and film. Actually I download anything that I need. If I need some software, I download it. But it's not illegal here. You have to work within the laws of the country you are in. I think an artist (an actor or a musician) would much rather me be listening or watching their work than not, regardless of if I paid for it.
If the circumstances were better; like, if all films were released in the cinema here, then I would never download another movie. But they aren't. I'm not going to miss out on my enjoyment because of a shitty government. And research shows that people that download movies are actually movie lovers and they also attend the cinema much more than regular folk, which is especially true of me. So piracy isn't such a bad thing. I see all of the movies in the cinema if I can.
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:21 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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zwackerm wrote: Its really no different from going to a store and stealing a disc yes it is
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:36 pm |
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MGKC
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Posts: 11808 Location: Kansas City, Kansas
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I can definitely understand Algren's reasoning for it.
In the US, there aren't any excuses anymore considering the options we have.
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Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:38 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I do not download movies because I like to see them in theatres or if not, then to own them in their original versions. And now with Netflix, I barely need to wath TV shows illegally.
But this has nothing to do with conscience, lol. I also would not have a bad conscience if I were stealing something from the store. As Johnny Depp says in Black Mass: if no one sees it, never happened.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:06 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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I used to download from Limewire. Haven't in 10+ years.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:25 am |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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 Re: Do you illegally download media?
I don't download. But I do stream some hard-to-find tv shows/movies and other non-US media on Youtube and other sites.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:22 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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I must just add that in the UK, I never downloaded a thing. I bought DVDs, watched TV, watched YouTube, bought CDs, and went to the cinema. Basically I will just adapt to whatever is possible in the environment I am in. In China, CDs and DVDs are not really available - anyway I don't have a DVD player or even a laptop with a disc drive anymore. It's just not a market for collectors. People just want what they want, and they want it now. That's the mentality out here. It will be interesting when I go back to the UK to see if I can drop the downloading movies and TV. I would hope so, but by that time the convenience may have such a hold on me. We'll see.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:41 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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I use to download music, but then the whole Napster thing happened and that pretty much scared me off. I've downloaded a few tracks off of YouTube, but only from unreleased albums or extremely rare/expensive albums. For instance, awhile ago I downloaded the Hollywood Blvd. Chase track from some anniversary edition of the Lethal Weapon soundtrack by Michael Kamen. I think they only released something like 3,000 copies and now it's a collector's item. If they ever released a proper (expanded) soundtrack I'd buy it in a second.
I also have a PC and because of that don't trust any torrents or downloading websites. There isn't much I'd download though. I can get all the TV I want, and if I want to see a movie, I'll see it in theaters, iTunes, or Blu-ray.
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Only porn.
For music I watch/listen to the videos on youtube.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:13 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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I only download TV shows by episode only because I don't have time to watched them on tv
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:21 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21856 Location: Walking around somewhere
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FILMO wrote: Only porn.
For music I watch/listen to the videos on youtube. People still download porn? Gotta stream man
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:11 pm |
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am Posts: 11560 Location: Bright Falls
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Yes.
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:17 pm |
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nghtvsn
Extraordinary
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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Movies=never Youtube videos=occasionally Music Albums/Song=not anymore Other sites videos like youtube such as Liveleak or others=occasionally
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Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:33 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40256
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Hell yeah
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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No.
I used to use Napster before they said it was illegal.
While I sure don't want to be caught and lose my law license, I also know what it's like on the other end...my books have shown up on pirate sites, which doesn't make me happy, of course.
I suppose maybe if some of you actually created something like music or a book and found that people were just downloading it for free, you might feel differently about stealing it.
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Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:19 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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I'd actually be glad that people are consuming my content. You shouldn't create just to see a financial benefit.
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Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:26 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Algren wrote: I'd actually be glad that people are consuming my content. You shouldn't create just to see a financial benefit. Yep. Thieves always have some rationale to make them not feel bad about stealing. (Trust me, I'm a lawyer, I've represented many!)
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Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:37 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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If it was stealing, I'd agree with you. But it's not. It is sharing. You are a telegram in the digital age. Time to modernize your ideals.
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Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:55 pm |
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resident
Wall-E
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:25 pm Posts: 855
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Yeah. Music. But usually songs that I created in my privacy that found their way to recording behind my backside. And then usually just to verify the borrowing by others who are considered to be...pros. I've never been paid a dime for it. They're family...in name only.
Else, I've downloaded the 5.1 DVD Audio versions of The Doobies, and Queen/A Night at the Opera because they are out of print. The used copies are rare and going for too much money.
There are many in the trade around me who are very careful about hiding their employment in the biz. So they arrange for OSCAR Screeners in the form of "bootlegs sold door-to-door for $5 each" so that they can be watched and shared without being obvious to the neighbors. I found a copy of "Gran Torino" on top of the dumpsters in 2008 while it was new in theaters. And the same with "The Two Towers" and RotK. The last two have the "For Your Consideration" appearing on screen in text every five minutes throughout the film.
And if you report these copies to the tipline at MPAA, they ignore it. Because it's understood.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Groucho wrote: Algren wrote: I'd actually be glad that people are consuming my content. You shouldn't create just to see a financial benefit. Yep. Thieves always have some rationale to make them not feel bad about stealing. (Trust me, I'm a lawyer, I've represented many!) Hmm, really? Aren't some just not feeling bad about it just because they, well, don't?
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Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:35 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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resident wrote: Yeah. Music. But usually songs that I created in my privacy that found their way to recording behind my backside. And then usually just to verify the borrowing by others who are considered to be...pros. I've never been paid a dime for it. They're family...in name only.
You make me very curious. 
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