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i.hope
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 Malaysian plane carrying 295 shot down over Ukraine
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/us-ukraine-crash-airplane-idUSKBN0FM1TU20140717Quote: (Reuters) - A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border on Thursday, the Interfax news agency cited an aviation industry source as saying.
The Boeing plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, it said. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
The Interfax report said the plane came down 50 km (20 miles) short of entering Russian airspace. It "began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory," the unnamed source said.
The plane appeared to have come down in a region of military action where Ukrainian government forces are battling pro-Russian separatists.
A separate unnamed source in the Ukrainian security apparatus, quoted by Interfax, said the plane disappeared from radar at a height of 10,000 metres after which it came down near the town of Shakhtyorsk.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:43 am |
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i.hope
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/official-malaysian-plane-shot-down-over-ukraineQuote: KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A Ukrainian official said a passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down Thursday over a town in the east of the country, and Malaysian Airlines tweeted that it lost contact with one of its flights over Ukrainian airspace.
Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet). He also said it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher, which can fire missiles up to an altitude of 22,000 meters (72,000 feet).
Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it "has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow." The plane's destination was
It was the second time that a Malaysia Airlines plane had gone missing in less than six months. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared in March while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It has not been found, but the search has been concentrated in the Indian Ocean far west of Australia.
The Donetsk region government said Thursday's plane crashed near a village called Grabovo, which it said is currently under the control of armed pro-Russian separatists. The region where theflight was lost has seen severe fighting between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russia separatist rebels in recent days.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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CNN will be very happy.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:30 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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This one took off from Europe and has the "being-shot-down-by-missile' angle. U.S. is definitely going to give it even more news cycle than the last disappearance.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:41 pm |
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i.hope
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AP: Ukrainian separatists and the government both deny responsibility. https://twitter.com/AP/status/489817191148441600
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:07 pm |
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Crux
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Not a good year for Malaysian Airlines.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:10 pm |
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Crux
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Looks like a bunch of source were saying it was shot down......crazy. I thought the initial reports were just BS.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:01 pm |
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FILMO
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Crux wrote: Not a good year for Malaysian Airlines. and maybe the last or second last year of Malaysian Airlines.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:19 pm |
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Krem
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It was shot down by pro-Russia separatists. Ukrainian forces have no reason to use anti-aircraft weaponry there, since the separatists don't have any aircraft. The separatists themselves were bragging about shooting down a Ukrainian An-26 earlier today in the social media (I saw the posts myself) - that was before they realized they shot down a civilian plane instead. Now they're denying everything. Here's a video of them discussing shooting down the plane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuHxAR ... e=youtu.beFuck these separatists, and fuck their protectors and supporters in Moscow all the way up to and including Putin.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:51 pm |
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Chippy
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The US has "confirmed" it was shot down.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:13 pm |
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Chippy
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The US has a bad habit of caring more about what's going on everywhere else, rather than here.
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Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:24 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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It's really none of America's business to get involved anyway. It was an accident.
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:57 am |
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Caius
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Algren wrote: It was an accident. ?
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:06 am |
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Algren
now we know
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They were testing their missiles and the plane flew into them. Accident.
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:23 am |
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Chippy
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_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:25 am |
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FILMO
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Maybe mistake would have been the better word?
I cant imagine that any side of that conflict has an interest of shooting down a civilian airplane right now. Especially not a Malaysian one?
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:57 am |
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Chippy
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I'm sure it was a "mistake" that they shot down a passenger plane instead of an army plane.
You don't just shoot missiles up 30,000+ feet in the air for "testing".
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:00 am |
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Algren
now we know
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Man, you guys are solving this!
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:42 am |
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Chippy
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_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:59 pm |
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Riggs
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Algren wrote: They were testing their missiles and the plane flew into them. Accident. Shit happens.
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i.hope
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BBC News: Quote: Confirmed death toll so far
Netherlands: 189 Malaysia: 44 (including 15 crew) Australian: 27 Indonesia: 12 UK: 10 Germany: 4 Belgium: 4 Philippines: 3 Canada: 1 New Zealand: 1 American: 1 Unverified: 2
Total: 298 RIP.
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:53 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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No Chinese? That's surprising. They're fucking everywhere. And only 1 Yank? Damn. Those pesky Russians must try harder.
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:56 pm |
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i.hope
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Actually there were a few ethnic Chinese among the victims. I read about an Australian girl of Chinese-Malaysian descent and a Hong Kong Chinese from the Netherlands.
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Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:31 pm |
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i.hope
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28360827Quote: The 20th International Aids Society conference was set to kick off in Melbourne, Australia.
Aboard MH17, reports suggest, were up to 100 scientists, communications officers and activists making their way there. Among them was Joep Lange, one of the previous presidents of IAS, described as one of the most brilliant minds in research.
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i.hope
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According to this AFP article, pro-Russian separatists' Twitter and blog messages (later deleted) suggest the rebels claimed to have " just downed an An-26 near (the town of) Torez." but later realized it was a civilian plane. Screencap of Lifenews (a Russian news site)  Source: The House News
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