Reading Marvel's Civil War right now. Bleargh. I hate how they're trying so hard to make Sleazebag Billionaire and America's Aryan Answer to the Nazis into top-tier heroes

I do like She-Hulk, though

OK, just read civil War #2. Soooo disappointed Spidey joined Tony Stark and came out.

To be fair, they always were top-tier heroes.

But anywho...that's another Mark Millar work that left me disappointed.

Top Tier, yes, but having Spidey be a minion to Iron Man? Like, seriously?


The writing is terrible. Right now, I'm reading about Iron Man being compared to Caesar. SERIOUSLY?

It's not Captain America and Iron Man that are total shit, it's the writer's forced characterization.

I know, but "Iron Man and Captain America are Total Shit" is more controversial and guarantees more thread views

I am, of course, totally on Captain's side in this debacle. I'm hoping we'll see some of Hawkeye somewhere in this "Civil War" stuff, and I'm pretty sure he'd be on Captain's side too, esp. since he's had trouble with authorities before.

Mav, have you read the whole Civil War stuff? I just finished the issue with the Thunderbolts. I have no idea wtf the Thunderbolts are even all about.

Next up is my beloved Wolverine though

OK, I changed the title to be more comprehensive. I know bABA has a thread in the lit section, but nobody goes there. Maybe we can move that one here and merge it with this one? Or just keep this going?


I'll be reading a LOT, and I mean a LOT of comics this coming month (it's for research, I swear!). So might be worth chatting it up.


Anyone read anything good thus far?

Finished the Wolverine issue #43.




Much as I love Wolverine, he's TERRIBLY drawn here. Like seriously, get a decent graphic artist, Marvel.

I read it, and I thought it was the most pathetically bad mischaracterizations I've ever seen in a comic. Marvel should not have allowed Millar's political bias to bleed through, he's from fucking Scotland, so he needs to shut his hole. Some of the writers today try to shoehorn established characters into the stories they want to tell, regardless of whether it fits the character or not.

For example, Captain America and Iron Man (and every other hero at Marvel) wouldn't fight like a bunch of kids in a sandbox, prepared to kill, despite the longstanding bonds and friendships, just because of a superhero registeration act that was passed due to a cockamamie setup. If they were in conflict over it, there may have been some initial tension, maybe even a bit physical between a few, but it wouldn't have become an all out superhero war, with once respected leaders snarling and tantrum throwing. Throwing morality out the window. Being destructive when they are supposed to stand for peace. Showing very unheroic and morally ambiguous characters is not my idea of superhero comics.

Could a mod please move this to the literature forum. I don't need the boring lives of a select few shining in my face.

You wish.

If your life was exciting, you would rarely be here like I am, not practically camped out like you are.

It's so true. It's like someone just came along and got rid of decades of backstory, just to set the stage for this lame post-9/11 story.

Ugh, I hated Civil War.

says the person who was in a committed relationship with a guy who pretended to be a girl.

and don't BS me, i know ur a regular at RT and a few other places. just because u don't post her when ur menstrual blood is bursting out of ur cunt when someone says something mean to u.

About Hawkeye, you should check an event or two before.

Or, in short:



About moving the thread, lets have it here for a while...if Water Cooler helps getting it more exposure, great.

Keep having your fantasies about how others have pathetic lives like you do. It doesn't make it so, but if you need to make yourself feel better, invent my life for me or invent who I have "committed relationships" with.

And no, I don't post regularly anywhere. I don't have time to be involved on the internet anymore, and since it escaped your powers of perception, it's pretty much been that way for a long time. Try to keep up. Try to get out of the house a bit, too.

Yeah, he supposedly "died" during Avengers Disassemble (another terribly written story), but he re-appeared in the guise of a new costumed character going by the name of Ronin. (again, bad writing)

thats right u weren't that 40 year old talking to that 19yo girl from WV. Wait! That was you.

And he was alive and well in Young Avengers Presents (the new Hawkeye chick tried to steal his bow). Or is that part of the continuity?

Post some proof instead of doing what you always do, talking out your ass.

Getluv, WTF? This thread is for COMICS. If someone doesn't want to stay on topic, GET OUT.


Nebs, I didn't know that about Hawkeye For some reason, he's always been a favourite of mine. I did a project on him once in physics class in high school