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Discuss.

Finally. This should have been approved years ago.

Um I thought this would have been legal in the States years ago. I'm a bit surprised.

LordknowsIneededitlastyeararoundApril1st.

bwahahahahahaha

You forget about the radical Christians who control much of our country and the government. The crowd that doesn't believe in evolution, thinks stem cells are babies, wants to instill prayer in schools and post the ten commandments everywhere. They are our own homegrown Taliban, without the violence.

Ah yes that lot.

I remember we had the problem of the radical Christian fringe possessing to much power over here as well. Examples of their power was that Condoms were banned in Ireland until the 1980s and divorce was only made legal in the mid 90s. They also got a government minister to resign because he didn't "please" them enough.

It's about time.

Seriously, it's embarrassing how long this took to get through.

Don't they all live in Utah?

hmmm

Don't do it Bodrul. I'm having flashbacks to the Lebanon thread and all the vitriol is making me cry

If its not happening on your soil it doesnt count is what im gathering from the comments . . .I suppose

If only we had this technology back when ChipMunky was conceived....

Well, the thread was about the USA so I limited my comments to here.

A couple of things...

First off Groucho...without the violence? While granted the religious right isn't as extreme as the Taliban they certainly aren't entirely peaceful. I was involved in a pro-life rally when I was younger and let me tell you, they can get viscious.

Anyway back to the discussion at hand, there have been and still are numerous safety concerns over the use of the "morning after pill" so I don't think its approval was a "long time coming" as some have said. I'd rather wait to be sure it is safe then have numerous deaths and lawsuits and eventual scandals. Remember Vioxx, phen-phen and a littany of other drugs?

Oh, sure, there are some crazies who blow up abortion clinics, but they are just that -- crazies. It's nothing like the Taliban, though, which is the comparison I was making. I mean, obviously I am no fan of the religious right, but even I wouldn't categorize them all as violent, whereas I would with the Taliban.

Um... what?

EC is incredibly safe.

Not exactly sure how they are radical if "they" are supported by a majority of people, i.e., they were elected into power in a first past the post electoral system (2000 being six years ago with two elections between, if you want to go that route).

Secondly, the Taliban relied primarily on violence. So I don't think your comparison is really very applicable, except in that it stirs up images which you would like others to associate with Christians of a so-called radical nature.

That being said, I have no problem with the morning after pill now being made available over the counter. Better that than to have an abortion months later.

Could you elaborate, as I could not really follow your post after this one.

no . .

make of it what you will

Sheppard was in Wyoming.

Back on topic

And I don't know what you guys are talking about sans violence. Everything about controlling a woman's persons through her womb is pretty damn violent to me.

By the way, this pill won't last. Want to know why? Because its not coming with standards of access and distribution.

Stores are not going to be *required* to carry it, so their goes half (no, more) or the country right there.

There is also no discussion about where it will be placed within the store (behind the counter? forget about it). Under 18 is still a massive problem. All the women I know who got pregnant before that age already had the kind of relationships where they didn't tell their parents. So this just adds insult to injury.



This is the first straw, I already see. Because taking the morning after pill is unhealthy for a girl at 15, but a full pregnancy won't do any damage to her health? Interesting. Medical staff already said its fine for everyone. The behind-the-counter, extra i.d. and surveillance is the biggest issue already. I know over-the-counter pregnancy tests are already one of the most stolen items in convenient stores and pharmacies. Clearly this is something people like to keep private. The i.d. and behind-the-counter approach is going to scare away people that are already scared. Especially the young women Galson professes to be looking out for.

I'm sure in half the states there will soon be legislation requiring ten forms of i.d. permission slips from "the man," and/or "the parents" and a whole messy paper trail.

It'll be expensive and insurance won't cover it,

...and high school health classes will either condemn it or not bother informing students its even an option (abstinence is apparently the only way to go).

I'm sure there's an entire nasty slew of tricks I'm not thinking about that limit access, education, and female empowerment.

As for now, I'm happy it passed through though. I just can tell that constant vigilance is needed around this topic, or its slowly gets whittled away without ever being officially deemed "illegal."

I think it will be a double edged sword. It will help some women but in other cases women who are dominated/abused will be forced to take it by the man in their lives.

Hmm...my mistake. I was for some reason thinking this was RU-486.

Teens will be getting this drug the same way they get into R-rated movies. It will probably land on the street market ten minutes after it lands in the pharmacy.

Older women, if they are smart, will obtain this in advance, before they need it, so they won't have to drive around town in a panic looking for a non-evangelical pharmacy.

Anything will be abused. However I think what you present is a slippery slope. Women being forced to take a pill is not something that will happen often. You will probably see more pressure to take it in but very rarely would they would be forced to take it.

The biggest danger for abuse of stuff like this and the pill and shots is that it could cause a boon of unprotected sex. It is great for monogamous couples who don't want to have a child(in which case they would probably be on some other form of Birth control). I could see this for couples who practice the cycle and are worried about counting the wrong number of days or a bad thermometer(some women can't take hormonal Birth Control).

However casual unprotected sex is dangerous. A women has a approx 1/10 chance of catching something really nasty if the man has it and a man approx 1/100 if the women has it.