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Eagle
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 Jesus walked on Ice?
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/20 ... htm?csp=34
Quote: By Bill Kaczor, The Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla.  Jesus walked on water, according to the Bible, but a Florida State University professor says he may have actually walked on a hard-to-see patch of ice.
Doron Nof, a professor of oceanography, said a rare combination of water and atmospheric conditions in the Sea of Galilee 2000 years ago may offer a scientific explanation for one of the miracles recounted in the Bible.
Nof said a patch of ice floating in the Sea of Galilee  which is actually a freshwater lake  would have been difficult to distinguish from unfrozen water surrounding it.
"I'm not trying to provide any information that has to do with theology here," Nof said in an interview Wednesday. "All we've thought is about the natural process. What theologians or anybody else does with that, it's their business, so to speak."
According to the New Testament books of Matthew, Mark and John, Jesus' disciples were out on the Galilee at night when a storm came up. Jesus walked to the terrified men, who thought he was a ghost, according to the accounts.
Darrell Bock, a professor of New Testament studies at the Dallas Theological Seminary, lightheartedly dismissed the idea that Jesus walked on ice.
"I'm just cold to the theory," said Bock, author of "Breaking the Da Vinci Code," which defends traditional Christian beliefs challenged in Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code.
"I tend to treat it as a real miracle," Bock said. "Almost all the nature miracles are challenged in one degree or another."
Other reaction to the theory has not been so restrained.
"I get hate e-mail on the average every three minutes," Nof said. One e-mail called him "the most stupid person on the planet" and closed by wishing that he "go to hell where you belong."
Nof's research appears in the April issue of the Journal of Paleolimnology, a publication on the reconstruction of lake histories. Nof's co-authors are biostatistics professor Ian McKeague of Columbia University and atmospheric science professor Nathan Paldor of Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
They came up with the theory after studying records of long-ago water temperatures in the Mediterranean Sea, based on core samples of shells and other animal remains taken from the bottom.
The records indicated that two lengthy periods 2,500 to 1,500 years ago were chilly enough for ice patches to form during cold spells on the Sea of Galilee, said Nof, a native of Israel.
The unfrozen water surrounding the ice would have come from salty springs along the lake's western shore, he said. Salty water freezes at lower temperatures than fresh water.
Does this make jesus the best magician ever?
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Christian
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"For my first miracle, I will turn this water.... into FUNK!!!"
*disco ensues*
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:55 pm |
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Artie the One-Man Party
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The New Testament is mostly bullshit to begin with anyways...The oldest Gospel accounts we have as of today are still over 150 years younger than when the original copy of the Gospel was supposed to have been written(s) (which has not been found yet)...I'm a struggling Christian right now, and although I believe in God, I have trouble believing a lot of shit in the Bible (NT AND OT) without these 'professors' trying to explain miracles that chances are didn't even take place anyways.
Two keys here:
-Gospel writers were writing for an audience, and changed around events that occurred to entertain/draw the attention of that specific audience
-The earliest Gospel was still written 50 years after Christ's death...Based on the oral tradition that had been spread around during that half century
How accurate can the NT really be? (Not including Paul's Letters and the like)
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:13 pm |
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Libs
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Duh.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:15 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Why did peter sink?
Just another proffesor trying to discredit Jesus when the most important time of the christian calender is near,it happens every year.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:16 pm |
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Jonathan
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neo_wolf wrote: Why did peter sink?
Cause he weighed 438 pounds?
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:18 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Positive Jon wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Why did peter sink? Cause he weighed 438 pounds?
Peter was discribed as a rock,not a cow.

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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:26 pm |
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Thegun
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Well thats an interesting though. Unfortunately nothing will ever get completely explained, not in our lifetimes anyway. So I really have no interest.
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Groucho
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neo_wolf wrote: Positive Jon wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Why did peter sink? Cause he weighed 438 pounds? Peter was discribed as a rock,not a cow. 
"Hold on Jesus, I'm coming -- it's me, Peter, the Rock!"

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Eagle
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Beeblebrox
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Christianist: Jesus walked on water and brought a dead man back to life with the simple touch of his hand.
Scientist: There are probably natural, real world explanations for those miracles.
Christianist: How can you believe something so ridiculous?
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:40 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Double post.
Last edited by Beeblebrox on Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:41 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Catch the newest ice-skating phenomenon that is sweeping the nation...
JESUS ON ICE: The Second Coming
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Chippy
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This doesn't change my views on Catholics/Christians/every other religion...
But it's funny 
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