The Presidential Race -- Results in First Post
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Amer
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 The Presidential Race -- Results in First Post
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Candidate ----------- Electoral Votes ---------- Popular Vote ----- %
Bush -----------------------66-------------------------2,944,243-------57
Kerry -----------------------77-------------------------2,216,683-------43
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
Last edited by Amer on Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:33 pm |
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Amer
Indiana Jones IV
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_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:44 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
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Thanks Amer. I just want the forum to stay nice and tidy. That is...not TOO many threads related to Bush/Kerry. 
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:45 pm |
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Amer
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In the newest CNN poll George Bush is leading:
George Bush-49
Kerry-46
Margain of Error-4
Ralph Nadar-1
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/17/poll.sunday/index.html
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:46 pm |
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Chris
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Bush is leading even after the debates where most say he lost?
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:58 pm |
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Amer
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Chris wrote: Bush is leading even after the debates where most say he lost?
Yes. I think the reason being that most people find Security the biggest issue and trust him the most on it. But also its still within the Margain of Error.
According to my favorite poll site http://www.electoral-vote.com Kerry is leading with some states still up for grabs.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:03 pm |
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Amer
Indiana Jones IV
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Here is my analyzation of the 15 Undecided states, and where they will go.
Ohio- Kerry
Pennsylvania- Kerry
Florida-Bush
Oregon-Kerry
Iowa-Kerry
Nevada-Bush
New Mexico-Bush
Wisconsin-Kerry
Michigan-Kerry
Minnesota-Kerry
Missouri-Bush
Arkansas-Bush
New Hanpshire-Kerry
New Jersey-Kerry
Colorado-Bush
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:08 pm |
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rusty
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Aren't the media "supposed" to be unbiased?
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:11 pm |
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torrino
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Hmm. I don't know. Florida's hispanic vote is going towards Bush. And I think that might have changed since last election. But there was the disaster last election, so, without a doubt, Florida will be super super close. It all comes down to Florida, anyway, because Bush PROBABLY will win Ohio.
But, remember, NO MORE BUSHIT! 
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:14 pm |
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Amer
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torrino wrote: Hmm. I don't know. Florida's hispanic vote is going towards Bush. And I think that might have changed since last election. But there was the disaster last election, so, without a doubt, Florida will be super super close. It all comes down to Florida, anyway, because Bush PROBABLY will win Ohio. But, remember, NO MORE BUSHIT! 
I disagree. Kerry I think will win Ohio. Also in a poll from Hurricane effected voters, about 15 say they will now vote for Bush cause of his efforts. Not that this will have a big effect, but still, I still think Bush will win.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:30 pm |
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torrino
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Amer wrote: torrino wrote: Hmm. I don't know. Florida's hispanic vote is going towards Bush. And I think that might have changed since last election. But there was the disaster last election, so, without a doubt, Florida will be super super close. It all comes down to Florida, anyway, because Bush PROBABLY will win Ohio. But, remember, NO MORE BUSHIT!  I disagree. Kerry I think will win Ohio. Also in a poll from Hurricane effected voters, about 15 say they will now vote for Bush cause of his efforts. Not that this will have a big effect, but still, I still think Bush will win.
Why would Kerry POSSIBLY win Ohio? Because he's not going to win Florida? What's the reasoning? lol.
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:34 pm |
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Amer
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torrino wrote: Amer wrote: torrino wrote: Hmm. I don't know. Florida's hispanic vote is going towards Bush. And I think that might have changed since last election. But there was the disaster last election, so, without a doubt, Florida will be super super close. It all comes down to Florida, anyway, because Bush PROBABLY will win Ohio. But, remember, NO MORE BUSHIT!  I disagree. Kerry I think will win Ohio. Also in a poll from Hurricane effected voters, about 15 say they will now vote for Bush cause of his efforts. Not that this will have a big effect, but still, I still think Bush will win. Why would Kerry POSSIBLY win Ohio? Because he's not going to win Florida? What's the reasoning? lol.
Ohio has lost many jobs, and also, in the polls he seems to be virtually tied with Bush. Kerry will be spending the rest of the campaign in the Midwest like Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:39 pm |
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torrino
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Actually, I've seen Kerry have the lead TWICE in Ohio in the past month. Although I hate to admit it, I think Bush will win there. Sorry.
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:48 pm |
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Amer
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OK..Even if he loses, and like you said he might win Florida, then he will win the Election.
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:57 pm |
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Chris
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I can't count the number of times both Bush and Kerry have been through Ohio.
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:55 pm |
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Amer
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Chris wrote: I can't count the number of times both Bush and Kerry have been through Ohio.
Kerry was in Ohio today.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:58 pm |
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Coasterman2002
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rusty wrote: Aren't the media "supposed" to be unbiased?
HA! supposed to be?.....they are the most liberal people in the world. The only station that is conservative is FOX. And also the liberals in the media went as far as making up documents against Bush. Who does that?
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:08 pm |
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Amer
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Coasterman2002 wrote: rusty wrote: Aren't the media "supposed" to be unbiased? HA! supposed to be?.....they are the most liberal people in the world. The only station that is conservative is FOX. And also the liberals in the media went as far as making up documents against Bush. Who does that?
The most biased news network is FOX!!!!! I watch CNN and HARDBALL on MSNBC, oh yeah alsio my favorite..THe Daily Show!!
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:22 pm |
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Chris
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Amer wrote: Chris wrote: I can't count the number of times both Bush and Kerry have been through Ohio. Kerry was in Ohio today.
Again? Geez...
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:26 pm |
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Amer
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Chris wrote: Amer wrote: Chris wrote: I can't count the number of times both Bush and Kerry have been through Ohio. Kerry was in Ohio today. Again? Geez...
Those Battleground states........you gotta win them.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:33 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
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Yea, I know...It seems like one or the other is here every week. Most of the time they both are.
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:59 pm |
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Amer
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Today Kerry ALSO went to Florida, while Bush took the day off.
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:01 pm |
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lovemerox
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I really dont think polls mean shit. I mean they are taken from like 1000 people. They really are not that accuarte.
Kerry will win....wait and see
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:49 pm |
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Amer
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lovemerox wrote: I really dont think polls mean shit. I mean they are taken from like 1000 people. They really are not that accuarte.
Kerry will win....wait and see
I also think he will win. PA, MI, MN, and OR are his. All he needs to do is get Iowa and either Ohio and/or Florida and thats the race buddies!
_________________ The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
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Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:51 pm |
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lovemerox
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I suppose this can go in here... :? \
Anyways...If you are serious about the election, check this out. Its long but worth it
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magaz ... 03c8dc68a7
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