Yes, but that's not the point. It's a very high possibility that once Iran got the bomb, it would end up with terrorists. That probability is lower even with India and Pakistan.

Hence the whole war on terror thing, as well as spreading the democracy. If enough countries are free, then we don't need to worry about our security as much.

I welcome our Chinese overlords!

Dammit! You've fallen to the communists haven't you?

Trust me, by the time China can take over the U.S., it will have had capitalism for about 25-30 years.

They better. And they better grow by at least 1 foot. If I'm going to be bossed around it will be by someone taller then me!

Well, Yao Ming WILL be their Supreme Leader...

Then it is so.

@ Rusty

Why does the U.S. dropping a nuke have no point ot the converstation at hand?[/b]

A) it happened 60 years ago

B) some contend that the action was justified and the alternative was to lose even more lives, to the tune of ten tuimes more.

To everyone that's talking about Hiroshima: do you feel safe voting for a Democratic candidate, knowing that Harry Truman was a Democrat?

A) So history has no merit in matters such as these?

History takes a backseat to the present day. The possibility of the U.S. transferring a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group is basically zero, which is not something you can say about Iran.

i doubt iran classifies the groups they supply weapons to as terrorist groups, so the possibility in that respect is zero. Anyway iran poses little to no threat to the US.

Considering that the Iranian government is directly responsible for a terrorist act against the U.S., I'd reconsider your statement. And it matters very little who the Iranians consider terrorists.

remind me

Watch Fog of War Rusty, it recaps the situation nicely.

There was no need to drop two atomic bombs on Japan. Most of the island had already been obliterated by the fire bombing.

Few few people know is that before the United States dropped the two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, LeMay’s B-29 bombers had already killed nearly 1 million Japanese civilians, including 100,000 in Tokyo on the night of March 10th, 1945.

On Iran, I would be saddened if the US didnt finish up the Axis of Evil.

Iranian hostage crisis.

Your right, but i still doubt they are much of a threat to the americans, unless it is invaded. I would've thought they were much bigger threat to 'israel than to the US.

The point is not about Iranians attacking the U.S.; it's about Iranians getting a nuke, and then (willingly or unwillingly) giving it to terrorists, who could then attack the U.S. or some other country.

if the iranians had a nuke; they would be classed as terrorists by the west anyway. (even without giving to so-called terrorists) Agree?

No.

if say iran had developed nuclear weapons 30-40years ago, people would shut up and keep there noses out, but because of the state of the middle east right now, and iran started to make these weapons, i just think fingers will point straight to terrorism.

Well yeah, because 40 years ago terrorism wasn't a big issue.

I think coutries that want nukes should have to pass a global test :wink:

HISTORY LESSON: Bombing Hiroshima had absolutely nothing to do with defeating Japan, they(JP) had been trying to figure out a way to surrender and save face for 3 weeks and were in negotiations with the Russians. We nuked Japan for Uncle Joe not for any other reason and dont let anyone tell you tall tales.

Iran: The action in Iraq will let these geniuses know that they are next, if they "want" to be, save us a trip say something stupid now, so we can make a left and kick your ass.

The real question is what do you do with N Korea?, do you wait until he has sold Weapons Grade to even nuttier extremists or do you surgically strike the reactor before he either arms 10 countries or has a stockpile himself?

Or is this only important during election years and in Tom Clancy novels?

double

a triple!!