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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Jon Lyrik wrote: It wasn't Algren, I'll say that much.
I'm guessing it's Algren.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I knew it was someone from these boards, just unsure between two possible ones...
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:44 pm |
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Bodrul
All Star Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:21 am Posts: 4694 Location: Cambridge, England.
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I knew it was someone from these boards, just unsure between two possible ones...
who?
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:02 pm |
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Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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So basically this is a regular poster and those in charge allow this because this is just another April Fool's joke?
Yeah the holocaust is just the funniest thing in the world, isn't it?
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:12 pm |
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Bodrul
All Star Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:21 am Posts: 4694 Location: Cambridge, England.
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Groucho wrote: So basically this is a regular poster and those in charge allow this because this is just another April Fool's joke?
Yeah the holocaust is just the funniest thing in the world, isn't it?
Yes.

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Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:16 pm |
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rusty
rustiphica
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:59 pm Posts: 8687
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Mr. X wrote: hans wrote: I must admit I did laugh pretty hard when I read this: Adolf_Hitler wrote: Gays will soon be able to adopt children. For their own sexual pleasure. Mmhm... pedophiles are just hilarious. 
lighten up chump, that one is actually pretty funny. 
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:18 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Groucho wrote: So basically this is a regular poster and those in charge allow this because this is just another April Fool's joke?
Yeah the holocaust is just the funniest thing in the world, isn't it?
i believe that for the moment, the adolf hitler account is suspended and the admins are awaiting a reply from the double account holder before proceeding with whatever action they feel is neccessary.
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:21 pm |
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Bodrul
All Star Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:21 am Posts: 4694 Location: Cambridge, England.
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Mr. X wrote: hans wrote: I must admit I did laugh pretty hard when I read this: Adolf_Hitler wrote: Gays will soon be able to adopt children. For their own sexual pleasure. Mmhm... pedophiles are just hilarious. 
Stop talking.
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:29 pm |
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Anonymous
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Groucho wrote: So basically this is a regular poster and those in charge allow this because this is just another April Fool's joke?
Yeah the holocaust is just the funniest thing in the world, isn't it?
Mike, at the time I didn't know that this was a double account.
Besides, as I repeatedly said before, I will not take any action against a user simply because of what they're saying is controversial.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:00 am |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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Krem, you don't see the difference between this - double account or no - and mere 'controversy'? This is obvious trolling (again whether a new user or not) and is posted out of spite and malice. I just think there's a major difference between this thread (and this guy's other posts) and a controversial opinion. (Jeff's initial "Kong sucked" post was 'controversial,' for example.) But hey, at least its being dealt with now.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:22 am |
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Anonymous
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kypade wrote: Krem, you don't see the difference between this - double account or no - and mere 'controversy'? This is obvious trolling (again whether a new user or not) and is posted out of spite and malice. I just think there's a major difference between this thread (and this guy's other posts) and a controversial opinion. (Jeff's initial "Kong sucked" post was 'controversial,' for example.) But hey, at least its being dealt with now.
You're ignoring the fact that some people DO think this way. Who would be coming up with all this stuff otherwise? There are whole books written on the subject and countries where this is the accepted way of thinking. Should we sit here in the bubble and pretend that these opinions don't exist and whoever espouses them is an obvious troll and should be prevented from speaking? I would hope not.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:47 am |
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Levy
Golfaholic
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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Krem wrote: kypade wrote: Krem, you don't see the difference between this - double account or no - and mere 'controversy'? This is obvious trolling (again whether a new user or not) and is posted out of spite and malice. I just think there's a major difference between this thread (and this guy's other posts) and a controversial opinion. (Jeff's initial "Kong sucked" post was 'controversial,' for example.) But hey, at least its being dealt with now. You're ignoring the fact that some people DO think this way. Who would be coming up with all this stuff otherwise? There are whole books written on the subject and countries where this is the accepted way of thinking. Should we sit here in the bubble and pretend that these opinions don't exist and whoever espouses them is an obvious troll and should be prevented from speaking? I would hope not.
sorry, but this is pathetic. I wonder what would have happened if the poster had chosen the name Osama Bin Laden and posted that 9/11 was fantastic, all those people deserved to die in that towers and that many more should die. You know, there are people who DO think this way. Simply pathetic!
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:04 am |
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Levy wrote: sorry, but this is pathetic. I wonder what would have happened if the poster had chosen the name Osama Bin Laden and posted that 9/11 was fantastic, all those people deserved to die in that towers and that many more should die. You know, there are people who DO think this way. Simply pathetic!
It's absolutely pathetic that some people would think that. Yet there are people like that. And, again, we can't automatically assume that whoever is posting that is a troll. There's a very high probability of that, yes, and that's why I took the time to investigate where this guy was posting from, but it's not an automatic decision.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:21 am |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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Krem wrote: You're ignoring the fact that some people DO think this way. Who would be coming up with all this stuff otherwise? There are whole books written on the subject and countries where this is the accepted way of thinking. Should we sit here in the bubble and pretend that these opinions don't exist and whoever espouses them is an obvious troll and should be prevented from speaking? I would hope not. I'm definitely not ignoring any facts. I know people think this way. But one need only read this guys posts and use just a little brain power to realize this is baiting and trolling.
I;ll just leave it at that out because I'm sure you recognize where we're coming from and cuz, like I said, at least it's being dealt with now.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:46 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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rusty wrote: Mr. X wrote: hans wrote: I must admit I did laugh pretty hard when I read this: Adolf_Hitler wrote: Gays will soon be able to adopt children. For their own sexual pleasure. Mmhm... pedophiles are just hilarious.  lighten up chump, that one is actually pretty funny. 
Oh, so you disappear for a few weeks, and come back to call me chump! Dispicable.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:55 am |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
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Hmm, so this is the thread everyone was talking about.
Anyway, I know it's really offensive, but frankly I think we just have another imtim on our hands. No substance; just trying to get attention via pissing everyone off.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:33 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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I would be more in agreement with your idea, Krem, if this person were a regular who posted about movies and then, as an aside, put up some political posts as well. I wouldn't want anyone censoring me for my views either.
But this was not the case. This guy came in and immediately started posting hate messages. This is the definition of a troll. If he had come in and immediately started posting spam about some product, you would kick him out, wouldn't you?
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:34 pm |
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rusty
rustiphica
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:59 pm Posts: 8687
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Mr. X wrote: rusty wrote: Mr. X wrote: hans wrote: I must admit I did laugh pretty hard when I read this: Adolf_Hitler wrote: Gays will soon be able to adopt children. For their own sexual pleasure. Mmhm... pedophiles are just hilarious.  lighten up chump, that one is actually pretty funny.  Oh, so you disappear for a few weeks, and come back to call me chump! Dispicable.
Your mother is dispicable.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:06 pm |
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Anonymous
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I don't understand why the thread wasn't locked after a few minutes. Star Wars aka Hitler, should be banned for this bullshit.
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:33 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I don't understand why the thread wasn't locked after a few minutes. Star Wars aka Hitler, should be banned for this bullshit.
Well, he was.
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:33 am |
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Dr. Lecter wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: I don't understand why the thread wasn't locked after a few minutes. Star Wars aka Hitler, should be banned for this bullshit. Well, he was.
my work here is done.

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Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:37 am |
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baumer72
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake
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Well STar Wars always was a dick. But that doesn't change the fact that you can't have it both ways. I don't agree with opinions like this, in fact I think they are quite despicable, but, and this is the kicker, if you want to have free speech and free assembly, then you have to put up with morons like this. But these morons are entitled to their fucked up and irrational opinions. If you want to live in the kind of society that we do, then it is just as shameful for some dweeb to spout off diatribes like this as it is for someone to come in here and say that it is okay to bury turtles alive. I get more offended by that becaues you are talking about senselessly taking a life of another living creature that has no say over the matter. It is torture. But because it is an animal, no one says shit about it. But I basically shut the fuck up about it because no gives a shit about my animal sympathies. The point is, we all get offended by different things. I don't get offended by Holocaust deniers because they are basically mrons with no proof to back up their smeer campaigns. But if you are going to ban people and threads because you don't agree with them, then I would expect you to do the same to threads that offend me. Free speech doesn't discriminate. It is an absolute. And you have to deal with it...like it or not.
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:32 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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baumer72 wrote: Well STar Wars always was a dick. But that doesn't change the fact that you can't have it both ways. I don't agree with opinions like this, in fact I think they are quite despicable, but, and this is the kicker, if you want to have free speech and free assembly, then you have to put up with morons like this. But these morons are entitled to their fucked up and irrational opinions. If you want to live in the kind of society that we do, then it is just as shameful for some dweeb to spout off diatribes like this as it is for someone to come in here and say that it is okay to bury turtles alive. I get more offended by that becaues you are talking about senselessly taking a life of another living creature that has no say over the matter. It is torture. But because it is an animal, no one says shit about it. But I basically shut the fuck up about it because no gives a shit about my animal sympathies. The point is, we all get offended by different things. I don't get offended by Holocaust deniers because they are basically mrons with no proof to back up their smeer campaigns. But if you are going to ban people and threads because you don't agree with them, then I would expect you to do the same to threads that offend me. Free speech doesn't discriminate. It is an absolute. And you have to deal with it...like it or not.
Well you are looking at it with 20/20 hindsight of knowing who the poster is. At the time it wasn't an unknown person and any forum would have summarily banned him for spamming, no different than if an outsider had come in and posted random letters in several threads or advertisements.
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:05 pm |
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baumer72
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake
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That may be true Archie, but why he can't he say whatever he wants to say when others can say what they want and it clearly offends some. And it was a good point that someone else made...what if he came in and started saying things about 9/11? Would the thread have been shut down then? Lots of hypocrisy here.
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:46 pm |
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Groucho
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But this is a private board. He has the right to say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean this board has to give him a place to say it. He wants to preach hate, let him start his own board.
I see nothing wrong with setting certain standards for Bulletin Boards. That's not censorship, that's editing.
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