Author |
Message |
Webslinger
why so serious?
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:24 pm Posts: 4110 Location: Stuck In A Moment I Can't Get Out Of
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Groucho wrote: As for "violent riots happening now" I haven't seen any sign of that. Do you have a reliable link to some news source? I'm sure Trump will tweet about it in six-and-a-half hours or so. Tweets are automatically irrefutable factual evidence now, right?
_________________ This Post Has Brought to You by Your Friendly Neighborhood Webslinger.
|
Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:42 pm |
|
 |
Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Jedi Master Carr wrote: So the women's march had more people than Drumf's inauguration. He had maybe 250 thousands. The lowest attended inauguration since 1984 and that was because of a blizzard. And he doesn't get and tries to lie and say he had a 1.5 million. He is a joke. I was very proud to see the turnout for the march today. Gave me a lot of hope and optimism. It's really, REALLY heartening. For the first time since the election I feel good about America again. I'll never forget the experience of marching in DC today.
|
Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:18 pm |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Libs wrote: Jedi Master Carr wrote: So the women's march had more people than Drumf's inauguration. He had maybe 250 thousands. The lowest attended inauguration since 1984 and that was because of a blizzard. And he doesn't get and tries to lie and say he had a 1.5 million. He is a joke. I was very proud to see the turnout for the march today. Gave me a lot of hope and optimism. It's really, REALLY heartening. For the first time since the election I feel good about America again. I'll never forget the experience of marching in DC today. Why did you feel bad about America? America isn't Trump. Trump is Trump.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:28 am |
|
 |
Darth Indiana Bond
007
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11584 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
America voted for Trump
_________________
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:34 am |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: America voted for Trump Not because they are racist homophobic misogynists. And Groucho, refusal to bake a same sex wedding cake is not discrimination, because it's not based on who placed the order. It's the idea they don't support, discrimination would be if they refused to bake the couple any sort of cake because they were gay. It's possible to oppose gay marriage without opposing gays. It would be different if the bakery was using Christianity to hurt the couple. But I think that same sex wedding cakes are a small enough issue, that gay couples aren't made of glass bones and paper skin, and that they should consider the baker's conscience as well as their own happiness.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:38 am |
|
 |
Darth Indiana Bond
007
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11584 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple is refusal of service to a select group of society. It is discrimination. It is not refusing to bake a cake with two gay men having sex on the icing.
_________________
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:35 am |
|
 |
Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
zwackerm wrote: Libs wrote: Jedi Master Carr wrote: So the women's march had more people than Drumf's inauguration. He had maybe 250 thousands. The lowest attended inauguration since 1984 and that was because of a blizzard. And he doesn't get and tries to lie and say he had a 1.5 million. He is a joke. I was very proud to see the turnout for the march today. Gave me a lot of hope and optimism. It's really, REALLY heartening. For the first time since the election I feel good about America again. I'll never forget the experience of marching in DC today. Why did you feel bad about America? America isn't Trump. Trump is Trump. You really should quit while you're ahead. You're young and you're INCREDIBLY naive.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:12 am |
|
 |
the lesser evil
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: America voted for Trump Not because they are racist homophobic misogynists. The racism, misogyny and homophobia didn't stop them from voting for Trump, which makes them just as culpable. Every vote that went to Trump supported his entire platform, not just the particular parts that they liked. Anyone who voted for Trump, even if they don't think they're racist, homophobic or misogynist (and even if they literally are not) are WORSE than if they were just that, because they played a part in putting someone who embodies all that in the arguably most powerful position in the world.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:48 am |
|
 |
FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Trump already saved money by using the same cake design as Obama four years ago.
_________________Libs wrote: FILMO, I'd rather have you eat chocolate syrup off my naked body than be a moderator here.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:10 am |
|
 |
nghtvsn
Extraordinary
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
I loved it of course and I loved that he was berating Washington with all the folks behind him. More religious in tone than expected but whatever. I'm looking forward to the breaking down of ACA, deportations and enforcement of immigration laws and renegotiating trade deals from free trade to fair trade.
As for those bogus zombie marches, all those leftists can March all day long or live stream or bitch about trump for the next four years at every concert. Who really gives a fuck now. Trump will do his duty despite those brain dead folks.
_________________ 2009 World of KJ Fantasy Football World Champion Team MVP : Peyton Manning : Record 11-5 : Points 2669.00 [b]FREE KORRGAN 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. DONALD J. TRUMP #MAGA #KAG! 10,000 post achieved on - Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:49 pm
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:22 am |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
the lesser evil wrote: zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: America voted for Trump Not because they are racist homophobic misogynists. The racism, misogyny and homophobia didn't stop them from voting for Trump, which makes them just as culpable. Every vote that went to Trump supported his entire platform, not just the particular parts that they liked. Anyone who voted for Trump, even if they don't think they're racist, homophobic or misogynist (and even if they literally are not) are WORSE than if they were just that, because they played a part in putting someone who embodies all that in the arguably most powerful position in the world. Its racist homophobic and misogynist to not be a single issue voter? And it's moreso his allies that are homophobic than him.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:04 am |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
And the missing LGBT and climate change pages are confirmed to be simply replaced with new pages for Donald Trump. While he may not have the exact same policies of Obama, at least he's not ignoring them like everyone feared.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:10 am |
|
 |
the lesser evil
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
zwackerm wrote: Its racist homophobic and misogynist to not be a single issue voter? If it means you're supporting a platform and political party that also involves racism, homophobia and misogyny then yeah, it is. If you voted for Trump (I don't think you did, something to do with registration) and some is subjected to any of those things because of it, you had a hand in making it happen. zwackerm wrote: And it's moreso his allies that are homophobic than him. And of course getting cosy with people like that in no way reflects what kind of person Trump is, and won't affect his presidency at all.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:30 am |
|
 |
_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Closeted gays are nearly always the biggest biggots.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:05 am |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
the lesser evil wrote: zwackerm wrote: Its racist homophobic and misogynist to not be a single issue voter? If it means you're supporting a platform and political party that also involves racism, homophobia and misogyny then yeah, it is. If you voted for Trump (I don't think you did, something to do with registration) and some is subjected to any of those things because of it, you had a hand in making it happen. zwackerm wrote: And it's moreso his allies that are homophobic than him. And of course getting cosy with people like that in no way reflects what kind of person Trump is, and won't affect his presidency at all. I was set to vote for Gary Johnson on that day.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:34 am |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
_axiom wrote: Closeted gays are nearly always the biggest biggots. _axiom wants me.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:37 am |
|
 |
Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple is refusal of service to a select group of society. It is discrimination. It is not refusing to bake a cake with two gay men having sex on the icing. I don't see a distinction. As long as they are consenting adults, why shouldn't the state threaten to ruin the baker in the second instance and if he continues to refuse, to actually ruin him? The second is a group of people that like to eat cake with two dudes fucking. Why aren't their rights protected? If the fucking dudes use a condom in the image, would that make it acceptable for the state to coerce the bakers participation? What if they wore a pro-LGBTQ shirt while fucking? Is it now category one? Why should the baker even be paid for his services in this instance? If he is required to make the cake, why should he be paid? I am not paid for not breaking laws. Why should he be paid for not breaking a law?
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:54 am |
|
 |
_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
zwackerm wrote: _axiom wrote: Closeted gays are nearly always the biggest biggots. _axiom wants me. Queens that are obsessed with musicals are not my type.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:32 pm |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
_axiom wrote: zwackerm wrote: _axiom wrote: Closeted gays are nearly always the biggest biggots. _axiom wants me. Queens that are obsessed with musicals are not my type. "Looks up queen on urban dictionary" Fuck you!
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:16 pm |
|
 |
Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Libs wrote: I'll never forget the experience of marching in DC today. Sincerely: Thank you for marching.
_________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com

|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:06 pm |
|
 |
Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
zwackerm wrote: It's the idea they don't support, discrimination would be if they refused to bake the couple any sort of cake because they were gay. It's possible to oppose gay marriage without opposing gays. Here's the key: If someone makes a product -- whether a cake or a bicycle or a cup -- they can't say "I will sell this to anyone EXCEPT [fill in group here]. It's the exact same product, but they're discriminating simply because of the group. The baker can refuse to make a cake that says "Gay marriage rules" or "I am against gay marriage" or "support Trump" or something else that has a message they disagree with, but a simple cake that is exactly like every cake he sells to heterosexual couples -- how is that NOT prohibited discrimination?
_________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com

Last edited by Groucho on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:10 pm |
|
 |
Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
the lesser evil wrote: Anyone who voted for Trump, even if they don't think they're racist, homophobic or misogynist (and even if they literally are not) are WORSE than if they were just that, because they played a part in putting someone who embodies all that in the arguably most powerful position in the world. Exactly. Voting for Trump said "Yeah, he may be surrounding himself with Klan members and Nazis, but I don't care, I'm supporting him anyway." It's basically complete selfishness.
_________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com

|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm |
|
 |
zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21467 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: It's the idea they don't support, discrimination would be if they refused to bake the couple any sort of cake because they were gay. It's possible to oppose gay marriage without opposing gays. Here's the key: If someone makes a product -- whether a cake or a bicycle or a cup -- they can't say "I will sell this to anyone EXCEPT [fill in group here]. It's the exact same product, but they're discriminating simply because of the group. The baker can refuse to make a cake that says "Gay marriage rules" or "I am against gay marriage" or "support Trump" or something else that has a message they disagree with, but a simple cake that is exactly like every cake he sells to heterosexual couples -- how is that NOT prohibited discrimination? That's what I said. A gay wedding cake would usually say something aboutvtbe wedding on it, no?
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:44 pm |
|
 |
Jiffy
Forum General
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
_axiom wrote: Closeted gays are nearly always the biggest biggots. Yep. Tale as old as time.
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:56 pm |
|
 |
Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
|
 Re: Inauguration of Donald Trump
Groucho wrote: the lesser evil wrote: Anyone who voted for Trump, even if they don't think they're racist, homophobic or misogynist (and even if they literally are not) are WORSE than if they were just that, because they played a part in putting someone who embodies all that in the arguably most powerful position in the world. Exactly. Voting for Trump said "Yeah, he may be surrounding himself with Klan members and Nazis, but I don't care, I'm supporting him anyway." It's basically complete selfishness. In what sense is Trump homophobic? What does that make 08 Obama (besides a liar)?
|
Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:11 pm |
|
|