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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: President Trump
Parts of it are...reasonable by Trump standards. Trying to overturn Roe v. Wade is extremely concerning to me, of course, but let's hope he's telling the truth about not trying to mess with marriage equality.
I'm highly skeptical, of course, because: a) It's Donald Trump b) Look at the people he's surrounding himself with...Steve Bannon is an actual Neo-Nazi.
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22197 Location: Places
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 Re: President Trump
Kushner and Ivanka are Democrats
I don't think Trump gives a fuck about the "Republican brand". - he never talks about it.
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Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:53 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21549 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: President Trump
Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:34 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22197 Location: Places
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 Re: President Trump
zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. What? Narrow minded folks on both sides who are incapable of taking a broader, big picture view of these issues should frankly be barred from the discussion.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:36 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: President Trump
Wow. zwack went from a dumb child to an ignorant scum of a human being. Nice progress there shithead.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:08 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Yikes. I cringed.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:52 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21549 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: President Trump
Excel wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. What? Narrow minded folks on both sides who are incapable of taking a broader, big picture view of these issues should frankly be barred from the discussion. I understand abortion if the mother is in serious danger of illness or dying from the preganancy. I can even understand if she is raped. But if you are having consensual sex, and a little swimmer gets through, the baby should be born. Sex always comes with the risk of pregnancy. Pregnancy may be difficult, but unless one of the first two scenarios I mentioned is the case, the baby should be born.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:04 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: President Trump
Zwack, go fuck yourself.
Back to Trump... He's already hiring the worst of the worst. This is not going to end well.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:06 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11608 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Just when I think Trump might surprise us, this happens
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:07 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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 Re: President Trump
I've never been this close to wanting to block someone on here.
Anyway. Trump is squandering the chance a lot of the opposition is giving him with these choices.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:15 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: President Trump
zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me?
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:20 pm |
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the lesser evil
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me? Trump's presidency hasn't even started yet and you've already got men telling you what you should do with your uterus and/or vagina. The next four years are going to be great.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:23 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11608 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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I fear the backlash is going to morally stunt Gerneration Z into reverting to sexist and racist norms of the past.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:35 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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the lesser evil wrote: Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me? Trump's presidency hasn't even started yet and you've already got men telling you what you should do with your uterus and/or vagina. The next four years are going to be great. It's a pretty dark time to be a woman in America.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:42 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21549 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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the lesser evil wrote: Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me? Trump's presidency hasn't even started yet and you've already got men telling you what you should do with your uterus and/or vagina. The next four years are going to be great. My sister is waiting for a child and would have loved any aborted fetus to death. There are two million infertile couples like her and my brother in law waiting for babies.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:55 pm |
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Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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zwackerm wrote: Excel wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. What? Narrow minded folks on both sides who are incapable of taking a broader, big picture view of these issues should frankly be barred from the discussion. I understand abortion if the mother is in serious danger of illness or dying from the preganancy. I can even understand if she is raped. But if you are having consensual sex, and a little swimmer gets through, the baby should be born. Sex always comes with the risk of pregnancy. Pregnancy may be difficult, but unless one of the first two scenarios I mentioned is the case, the baby should be born. I am ashamed and embarrassed that I had thought higher of you.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:57 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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zwackerm wrote: My sister is waiting for a child and would have loved any aborted fetus to death. There are two million infertile couples like her and my brother in law waiting for babies. That's not the point. It's not about the child, it's about the woman and the rights to her own body. From a purely personal standpoint, I don't love the idea of abortion. No one does. In many cases, I wish it's not something that would happen. But it's not up to me or anyone to speak for any individual woman and her right to choose.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:00 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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zwackerm wrote: the lesser evil wrote: Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me? Trump's presidency hasn't even started yet and you've already got men telling you what you should do with your uterus and/or vagina. The next four years are going to be great. My sister is waiting for a child and would have loved any aborted fetus to death. There are two million infertile couples like her and my brother in law waiting for babies. Due to abortion, the number of women who place their child up for adoption has reduced from 9% to 1%. There are still hundreds of thousands of kids every year that need adopting.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:05 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: President Trump
Due to abortion, the teen pregnancy rate has dropped to it's lowest level ever.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:06 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Now, I'm not saying "if you get pregnant and don't want it, get an abortion!". But if the mother feels that she is not in a place to care for a child, or does drugs, or any other of the millions of reasons to have an abortion, then she has the right to have one.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:07 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21549 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Chippy wrote: zwackerm wrote: the lesser evil wrote: Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Libs, don't kill your fetus if you get pregnant accidentally. OK, I'll suspend my belief in a woman's right to choose because an 18 year old boy on the Internet told me to. Are you f'ing kidding me? Trump's presidency hasn't even started yet and you've already got men telling you what you should do with your uterus and/or vagina. The next four years are going to be great. My sister is waiting for a child and would have loved any aborted fetus to death. There are two million infertile couples like her and my brother in law waiting for babies. Due to abortion, the number of women who place their child up for adoption has reduced from 9% to 1%. There are still hundreds of thousands of kids every year that need adopting. Well, they still have not been chosen.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:10 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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So you're condemning millions of women and their right to choose what to do with their body, because your sister can't get a timely baby?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:11 pm |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Chippy wrote: Due to abortion, the teen pregnancy rate has dropped to it's lowest level ever. But is it really the pregnancy rate that has fallen or the birth rate? Even if you abort, that means you were pregnant. And if there is a drop in pregnancy rate, I think that's more due to a better use of contraceptives and improvements in their effects.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:18 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Why are you guys arguing points with him? He's not going to suddenly see the light on this one. Normal people understand that abortion is never the best choice to be made but in some cases it has to be made and other cases it should be made. Not everyone is fit to be a parent and if they happen to become pregnant and don't want to go through with it, it should be their choice, not people who regularly consult God on all their decisions.
Shit, now I'm arguing with him.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:18 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Price wrote: Chippy wrote: Due to abortion, the teen pregnancy rate has dropped to it's lowest level ever. But is it really the pregnancy rate that has fallen or the birth rate? Even if you abort, that means you were pregnant. And if there is a drop in pregnancy rate, I think that's more due to a better use of contraceptives and improvements in their effects. I'm fairly certain sexual activity in teens has dropped significantly as well.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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