i got a real simple solution for you then, quit talking about skype. wow amazing i know

That you have a problem with Gulli and his hot-headed temper is your business with Gulli. Korrgan, honestly, you are creating your own problems here by re-addressing issues OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

When Gulli (god bless his heart) acts up, he looks like a twat. If you would just ignore him rather than having to respond to that you both would be better off.

NOW you are a topic of conversation, because if you want to make this "Skype Chat" crap a big deal, then you are going to make a lot of enemies out of people who were okay with essentially leaving you alone.

Okay, this whole thing confuses me and seems kinda retarded. Michael's comment has been one of the few sane ones here (God, can you believe I just said that?!).


Seriously, I haven't always been a member on Skype, but been so for quite some time now. Even before my lazy ass actually joined Skype I've been talking a lot to many different members who were at the time (and still are members of the Skype group.


Are there talks about other forum memembers during talks like these (be it MSN or Skype)? Hell yes. Do they comprise more than 5% of overall talking? HELL NO!

Have I ever witnessed some elaboarate (or even any) plotting of anything over MSN or Skype? No, I have not. Have there been some talk about anyone being an ugly whore? Not that I know of. I haven't been talking with Jim much, so I can't say much on that matter, but I have been talking a lot to Gulli and all I know of him is that usually if he has an issue with someone, he'd just say it to the person directly. He's not exactly the one to keep that stuff back, heh. I'm not taking any side here because the whole siding thing is ridiculous in its own way. I'm just stating my opinion on this.


Over the last few months, I noticed that some people start taking the whole cliques (Sykep being one of them) thing way too seriously. Most/all of the members in such groups certainly have better things to do in their lives than to plot schemes as to how hurt/make fun of/mob other posters. Of course there are posters there not liking other posters. Of course there's sometimes talk about it (though definitely NOT as frequent as one would imagine). But I doubt any of it is really that important to the people who talk that they'd spend a lot of time of their lives to plot any schemes.

There are a couple of posters that I don't like their and some probably know who they are. But whenever I even have a thought of someonehow pissing them off, the first thing on my mind is: "Why the hell should I waste my time with this?!"


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I sent a PM to korrgan telling her if she wanted to sort out anything just message me. I didn't get a message so not much I could do.

I'm fucking sick of this and want it to go away but back it comes over and over and over.

A thing like this should be sorted out once and for all. I'd appreciate if the admins would refrain from locking this unless it gets really ugly (which I hope it won't).

LETS GET THIS UGLY!!!

This thread just reminds me, once again, how paranoid the internet can make people. I have empathy for Korrgan and Corpse in the same way I did for DP, and also feel bad for people who are getting accussed of something they aren't responsible for just because of how virtual contact has such a propensity to lead to suspicion.

Good thing I've defaulted all of you fuckers to fickle except for the five people I actually maintain discussions with (you know who you are) via my regular email. This makes life a lot easier, as fickle people may not think about you when you are out of sight, but on the positive side...they definitely do not think about you when you're out of sight! I highly recommend everyone try this approach. Decreases the suspicion when you just assume no one really cares.

And while Arsi and I don't get along at all (this for once, should make what I have to say more relevant) he never talks about people behind their backs. This should put you to ease, korr. We met numerous times, and if anything I spoke about more about people here and he was just like, "Meh, I don't really talk about people from the internet."

The only person that talks to me outside of KJ is Arsi... AND HE DOESN'T EVEN TALK TO ME ANYMORE!!!

No lock it, its going to be sorted elsewhere in private, its much better that way.

When Martin and I were in Berlin I actually can't remember a single time we were talking about anyone on the boards...

Hmm, but since it kinda affects the whole Skype group, I'd say the curiousity is still there...

I'd talk to you but I don't know your screen name and I don't think you like me.

Rubber Necking!

DID YOU NOT SEE MY LIST!??!

What list? I guess I was too busy reading all the ridiculous crap on this site like this thread to notice anything else.

I know. About the only people I spoke to when I met up with Cyn on the fourth had a direct reason for being mentioned. She spoke about how she was visiting you and what she planned to do on vacation, and she mentioned Squee and Gulli when I asked if she had a good time in Chicago and if they went shopping. That's about it.

Bitchez, I only wish I was so important to people on this site that they thought about me when I wasn't busy shoving Moolaade down their throats and completely embarressing myself for spelling 'sight' as 'site' twice in the same sentence. (Psssst Lect, I changed it in my original post).

In other news, I've been cussing more than usual today because I passed up going to an expensive restaurant and getting drunk in the South End so that I could sit here and further torture myself by failing self-exams repeatedly. So if I come across as bitchy in this thread, blame the Germanic line of languages.

edit: @Korr, good for you. You'll be able to have fun again instead of worrying.

You said that a few months ago

Wow, that's like a Shyamalan twist (only good) right there! So the actual evil person is whoever was telling these things.

I say lynch 'em!

Ok, I really hope this post ends most of the unknown tension among users, and any tensions between posters involved.

Part 1


I "think" I may have been the first person to sorta "explore" behind the scenes activity at KJ. It sorta came to me when I began to chat with DP07 (not about this group, but just a normal chat one day). One day he mentioned to me about various users having double accounts here. About users not being who they say they are, etc. And that this group (or single person or a few more) of people played a prank of sorts on him (he never said this exactly, but it's not difficult to piece together), and he became paranoid over it. That's my reasoning behind DP07's claims of sorts. He'd ask me daily who I was, who's double account I was. And he'd never believe me when I said I wasn't someone at KJ pretending to be me/the Corpse user to further annoy him or whatever. No matter how many times I told him, he'd never believe me. I think he just became so paranoid after this and began saying some posters (including me) were celebs on here. I don't know how it came to that, but I kind of ended chatting with him after I told him repeatedly I wasn't interested in talking about this anymore, yet he wouldn't stop with all of it. So this was what sparked my interest about a group of people possibly doing things behind the scenes for whatever reason.



Part 2

Around.... I think last December, I had been active at KJ long enough to see which poster got along best, who were friends, enemies, etc. And it's very easy to tell really, no need for someone to "leak" any personal information. Then came the suspicious (not as much at the time, but would later seem....just plain strange and suspicious). This Thread is an example. Jujubee (recently became a mod at that time) is DEFENDING Gulli's baiting of me, and pretty much places the blame on Gulli blowing up on me on my shoulders. I saw that moment in that thread I made as a very likely chance something was going on. What MOD goes around defending a poster who baits, and places the blame on the poster who ended up falling for the bait? What is the difference between the above situation, and say.... MadGez/Christian/xiayun defending BKB's baiting in one of TDK threads, which usually results in more than a few users falling for that bait?



Part 3

I have changed ALOT since the beginning of the year (not sure if anyone can notice it, but I can), but shortly after Part 2, I began to believe there really was a group that controlled things behind the scenes. So I decided to "discover" which posters may be involved, and several of these posters were friends on Skype. NO ONE has told me (I won't speak or anyone else here since I don't know about them) about Skype or who it's members were. It is a bit obvious on the boards. The members tend to stick together in nearly every thread, gang up on someone, etc. The list Korrgan posted is similar (all the ones she listed, I also think are members) to the users I think are in Skype, but mine also includes trixster, Price, Lecter, nghtvsn, and maybe insomniacdude since, imo, his behavior pattern took a severe shift about a month ago, and another maybe in Chip since everyone suddenly liking him more have been members in my list, and I haven't noticed any change in him at allllll. No one has told me who chats on Skype though. I don't know about Korrgan or anyone else, but I simply came up with my list based on forum activity.



I'll post some more later. But I'd like to say that I don't have a "spy", and I don't have anyone feeding me any information on the details of what you guys chat about. I will admit it's a little odd some of you are VERY defensive at times when anything suspicious is brought up on the boards, and it doesn't help is dispelling any possible rumors about behind the scene activity going on. Of course, it's understandable since most of you guys are good friends and such, and having someone telling another what you talk about would be bothersome, but as far as people go telling me anything about Skype's members, chats you have, etc. There has not been a single person that I know about who has done this. What I think has happened is little comments being shared with people who chat on Skype to others on here over AIM, MSN, etc. that gets passed along to more and more people, and usually the original comment ends up being distorted.

And I have tried over the past few months to mend the "damage" by discussing the topic with people in private, like Gulli and Ripper recently because as the poster who have no idea what's going on have seen, very little comments can turn into fights on here now.

You're not on it!

I'm a like-able guy... what can I say!