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Yes, caricatures like this are very helpful in the current climate. Would you like to give Frauke Petry a rimjob, while you are at it?

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Yup, because creating a hashtag with IchBinBerlin will erase all of this and make everyone happy and carefree again. And meanwhile ARD and ZDF were still considering the possibility of a heart attack of the driver when everyone knew that someone had fled from the scene of the crime.
And why do I read in foreign (non German media) that the person caught by the police and suspected to be the perpetrator is from Pakistan and entered Germany February 16th as a refugee and that isn't reported by German media until an hour later.

So keep imagining you are living in rainbow land and that everything will just go away without doing anything. And about the rimjob, yuck, not with Petry, the only German politician I would give one right now is Manuela Schwesig, which doesn't look too bad for a MILF.

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I read about the Pakistani refugee several hours ago, in German media no less.

And whoever uses this for anti-refugee agenda can, as I always say, go fuck themselves.

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I read about the Pakistani refugee several hours ago, in German media no less.

And whoever uses this for anti-refugee agenda can, as I always say, go fuck themselves.

Genuine question: Why should Germany (or Europe in general) accept young adult male refugees? What do they add to German culture? And if you say "diversity," please define the term beyond "not German."


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I read about the Pakistani refugee several hours ago, in German media no less.

And whoever uses this for anti-refugee agenda can, as I always say, go fuck themselves.

Genuine question: Why should Germany (or Europe in general) accept young adult male refugees? What do they add to German culture? And if you say "diversity," please define the term beyond "not German."


What is particular about young adult males that makes you single them out? Why not old males or young females?

In general, if you are in a war zone or you feel like your life is threatened or your human rights are violated, I am absolutely not opposed to accepting you here. The thought of what they "add" is not at the forefront of this. I know that this concept of human decency is hard for some people to understand.

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And whoever uses this for anti-refugee agenda can, as I always say, go fuck themselves.


This is not about refugees as a whole but about uncontrolled access to a country. I read that the guy was known to the police, although not for terrorist activities but for smaller crimes like robbery. If those crimes were already committed before he entered, why did he get access? And if they were committed in Germany, why wasn't he in jail or returned to his country?

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I read about the Pakistani refugee several hours ago, in German media no less.

And whoever uses this for anti-refugee agenda can, as I always say, go fuck themselves.

Genuine question: Why should Germany (or Europe in general) accept young adult male refugees? What do they add to German culture? And if you say "diversity," please define the term beyond "not German."


What is particular about young adult males that makes you single them out? Why not old males or young females?

In general, if you are in a war zone or you feel like your life is threatened or your human rights are violated, I am absolutely not opposed to accepting you here. The thought of what they "add" is not at the forefront of this. I know that this concept of human decency is hard for some people to understand.


I think it seems a blanket of naivety has come across Germany likely driven by guilt of the past it seems.

As a German to ignore the 100s of sexaual assaults in Cologne last year is shameful.

Canada banned single male refugees Unless they are gay as they are easily swayed by radical beliefs and can get involved in crime and rape.

Reality is you open door policy pretty much shut the door across the western world, so you can say you did the right thing but in the end you made the problem worse.

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Why would someone do these things to a country's people after that country saved him from such atrocity? It doesn't make sense to me.

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Now they say they catched the wrong guy? Attacker still out there somewhere?

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Why would someone do these things to a country's people after that country saved him from such atrocity? It doesn't make sense to me.


Because people like Price treat them like terrorists. And if you're treated a certain way, you tend to eventually turn out that way.

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Why would someone do these things to a country's people after that country saved him from such atrocity? It doesn't make sense to me.


Because people like Price treat them like terrorists. And if you're treated a certain way, you tend to eventually turn out that way.


False. I've treated you like a retard, but you've always been a retard, you didn't turn out that way.

Oh, and my reply to your reply to this reply: OK.

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Typical conservative mindset.

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Yup, because creating a hashtag with IchBinBerlin will erase all of this and make everyone happy and carefree again. And meanwhile ARD and ZDF were still considering the possibility of a heart attack of the driver when everyone knew that someone had fled from the scene of the crime.
And why do I read in foreign (non German media) that the person caught by the police and suspected to be the perpetrator is from Pakistan and entered Germany February 16th as a refugee and that isn't reported by German media until an hour later.

So keep imagining you are living in rainbow land and that everything will just go away without doing anything. And about the rimjob, yuck, not with Petry, the only German politician I would give one right now is Manuela Schwesig, which doesn't look too bad for a MILF.


And now the guy seems to be innocent, but that thought surely hasn't crossed your mind.

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Yup, because creating a hashtag with IchBinBerlin will erase all of this and make everyone happy and carefree again. And meanwhile ARD and ZDF were still considering the possibility of a heart attack of the driver when everyone knew that someone had fled from the scene of the crime.
And why do I read in foreign (non German media) that the person caught by the police and suspected to be the perpetrator is from Pakistan and entered Germany February 16th as a refugee and that isn't reported by German media until an hour later.

So keep imagining you are living in rainbow land and that everything will just go away without doing anything. And about the rimjob, yuck, not with Petry, the only German politician I would give one right now is Manuela Schwesig, which doesn't look too bad for a MILF.


And now the guy seems to be innocent, but that thought surely hasn't crossed your mind.


That means that:

1. Merkel was wrong this morning when she ratified that the person was the author of the crime. And I don't know about you, but I believe she probably has better access to that type of information than I do.

2. If he is innocent, he should be put immediately free, which I hear the police has done. And then detained again and charged for the other crimes he has committed unless he already spent time in jail for them.

3. That means that the author is still at large, which doesn't put the German police in the best spotlight.

Also, why do you say seems to be and not is? Aren't you 100% sure? Or does it still cross your mind that he may be involved?
And if you read my post, you will see that I'm complaining about German media informing much later than the international one and of hiding information. The same media that decided to hide the news about Maria Landenburger being raped and killed.

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Why would someone do these things to a country's people after that country saved him from such atrocity? It doesn't make sense to me.


Because people like Price treat them like terrorists. And if you're treated a certain way, you tend to eventually turn out that way.

Surely the country accepting them overrides (or at least neutralizes) any negative treatment, no?

But there is still a large part of the responsibility going on the terrorist/offender. I don't subscribe to this modern, liberal notion that everything is not someone's fault. Like fat people; "Oh it's the media. It's the food companies. It's my parents when I was younger. It's the school I went to". NO. It's you, you fat bastard! Stop eating. Get some self-control. Same for the terrorists. If you strap a bomb to your chest, at what point is it the terrorists fault and not people like Price?

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I didn't say it wasn't their fault. But if you grew up in an environment that treated you in a way that you think you're only choice is to become a terrorist, that's not just on you.

A lot of people don't become terrorists, but we have to take some responsibility for helping turn the others into it.

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Very hard to think that way when your innocent countrymen are being murdered. And if you're a refugee, surely you should look at like this: would I rather live in a war zone or in a civilised country where I may face some negativity but won't be needing to dodge bullets on a daily basis. To still hate the country that took you in after they fucking saved your ass, there's no blaming anyone but themselves if they turn into a terrorist. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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And another attack in Istanbul during New Year's again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Istanbul_nightclub_attack


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Very hard to think that way when your innocent countrymen are being murdered. And if you're a refugee, surely you should look at like this: would I rather live in a war zone or in a civilised country where I may face some negativity but won't be needing to dodge bullets on a daily basis. To still hate the country that took you in after they fucking saved your ass, there's no blaming anyone but themselves if they turn into a terrorist. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.


I don't think this accurately describes most of these attackers' mindset. They were probably thinking the West had destabilized their home countries (by covert operations and propaganda interfering the politics of those countries). Their religion was being oppressed by the dominant Christian West, which occupied their land. This mindset of tribalism and loyalty to one's culture was strong in these people.

If the social cost of military/non-military actions in the Middle East was truly factored in during the decision process, I think the world's leaders involved would think twice before doing them again.


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In general, if you are in a war zone or you feel like your life is threatened or your human rights are violated, I am absolutely not opposed to accepting you here. The thought of what they "add" is not at the forefront of this. I know that this concept of human decency is hard for some people to understand.


Principally, I agree. But did Germany do enough to vet the people coming in? There should be a buffer zone to house these people before they officially become refugees.


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