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Mister Ecks
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I'm not sure how I feel about Wrestlemania this year. There aren't any big matches or participants I'm excited for. At least last year, there was the big Sting WWE debut. And of course it was interesting to see how WWE would handle Roman Reigns' extremely poor audience reception in the main event. No Seth Rollins to save them this year.
I'm not sold on Roman Reigns vs. Triple H. I'm not even sure that's the path they'll go, especially for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. I feel like they're strong-arming the audience into rooting for Roman against the dastardly Authority, but they forget that there's always the possibility of complete lack of interest. Like Randy Orton in 2004, they're forcing Roman into a role where we have to cheer for him, but it's not going to last. And if by some luck it does work and people keep cheering for him, it will die off once paired with anyone not in the Authority.
With Rollins, Cena, Daniel Bryan (unless he does a tag match), and a lot of other potential question marks out for this year's Mania, it's now or never to go all in on some new, fresh faces. But of course they'll pay big to get part-timers and celebrity involvement. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ronda Rousey yet. If she's hosting SNL in two weeks, and she's not competing until the summer for UFC 200, it seems ideal to have her involved. And in true WWE fashion, they'll get a big name AFTER she's lost a ton of support.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:22 pm |
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Shack
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I heard an idea of Reigns wrestling twice. So he does his Triple H match and then say the main event title match is Reigns vs Brock or Undertaker (who won the belt at the Rumble?). It would help with the shortage of wrestlers but ripping off the Daniel Bryan playbook and making him beat the more popular Brock or Undertaker in the same night is not the way to make fans side with Reigns.
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Mister Ecks
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Roman's number one must for post-Mania is a heel turn. Especially when Seth Rollins is close to returning, as I think it would be unwise to not have him return as a babyface, even if it's not a long-term thing.
Sting has been announced as the first entrant into the 2016 Hall of Fame. I wonder if this means his in-ring days are over in WWE? It would have been nice to see him wrestle one more Mania match before doing the hall of fame.
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:19 pm |
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Shack
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Wow I was not expecting Kalisto to win that US title match, I like the Kalisto and Del Rio matches.
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Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:18 pm |
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Corpse
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Too bad Del Rio already won it back. :/
Anyway... Austin has confirmed that he'll be at Wrestlemania, and seems rather enthusiastic about it. He also didn't rule out an in-ring performance. It may be a long shot to see him in a match, but if Cena hasn't recovered by then to headline with Taker, I could see Austin agreeing to some sort of in-ring performance.
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Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:44 am |
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Hmm, I don't think Austin or Rock will be competing, but they could each pick a proxy and have them battle it out. That would turn a mid card match into a semi main event.
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Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:15 pm |
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Shack
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So Royal Rumble tomorrow night... I suspect the obvious play of Reigns making it all the way to the end only for HHH to come back and screw him over setting up their Wrestlemania match. But it's still interesting cause even if that happens, it doesn't mean HHH won, or even was a Royal Rumble entrant. HHH screwing over Reigns could pave thew way for Brock or Bray to win. I heard the idea of Bray wins and then Lesnar/Bray is the title match at Wrestlemania. Putting the belt on him would be a great way to give Bray the rejuvenation he needs and then for Wrestlemania with that you could still do HHH and Reigns, and an Undertaker match, and that's a solid 3 matches to work with at the top of the card
But I still think HHH wins. The idea of him coming out at #30 or #31 with his theme song is such a big enough moment for WWE to go with it. I say Roman Reigns seemingly wins the Rumble and then Vince comes out and says actually there's 31 people in the Rumble and then Time To Play The Game.
Reigns just winning is the worst case scenario, I can't believe they would be so reckless pushing him down fans throats to make him win two in a row and from the #1 spot
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:52 am |
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Mister Ecks
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I would love if Reigns won, then the clock counts down out of nowhere and everyone wonders what the heck is going on, only for Triple H to come out.
Bray winning sounds so unlikely. It's too different and fun for WWE to do it. This is why Royal Rumble hasn't been fun for a few years. With the wrestling websites able to spoil it so early, Rumble's unpredictability is gone. But that goes for 99% of wrestling. Only rarely do we get genuine surprises now that aren't spoiled.
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:29 am |
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Corpse
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It'll suck if Bray wins, because then Brock will just bury him at Wrestlemania in yet another losing feud for him.
Unless, of course, they finally decide to have Bray come out on top for once. But I can't see that happening against Brock at Wrestlemania itself.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Mister Ecks
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Bray won't come out on top ever. At least a world title run would give him something.
Reports suggest WWE is high on Braun Strowman. Of course they are.
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Biggestgeekever
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Corpse
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Basically, yes.  Overall, very solid PPV. Each match delivered tonight, and the ending to the Divas match with was great.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Shack
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Great Royal Rumble, I liked it all from AJ Styles entrance to the League of Nations finally getting to kick Roman's ass, to Zayn-Owens, to R Truth and Miz comedy, to Lesnar dominating and then getting eliminated by the Wyatts, to the general group left at the end and HHH win. It's amazing that compared to a Rumble like this where everything feels intelligently thought out that the 2015 one actually happened, with Bryan anticlimactic elimination, Big Show KO punches as most of the major eliminations and Reigns, Kane and Show final 3 lol
The rest of the matches were pretty good, Ambrose and Owens was fun carnage match, Charlotte vs Becky match seem to be getting better all the time and loved the Sasha bit (I was hoping Bailey would come out though), ADR/Kalisto was a nice title match with an unexpected result for me.
The fans reaction to Reigns was just brutal, Ambrose is starting to feel like he should be champion instead
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Corpse
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Yeah, your top guy can't be getting booed against HHH and/or the Authority. C'mon. They need to turn him sooner rather than later. Just have him turn on Ambrose (costing him the IC title or something, perhaps), and that'd get the job done quickly.
It's all quite unfair for Reigns, too. He's worked his ass off over the past year to win the fans over, and they even gave him a feud with Vince, yet nothing is working.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Shack
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I don't think they'll do it but making the main event Reigns, HHH and Ambrose for the belt and making Ambrose win would work out perfectly. That's the ideal situation of the most popular face right now, getting to win the title for the first time in his career at Wrestlemania, and in a way where his rise feels organic. With Owens, Zayn, Styles and Jericho they have no shortage of options to take over the IC Belt picture also if they made him lose it on some Raw
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:51 pm |
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Alex Y.
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I hope they do Ambrose-hhh and undertaker-reigns
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Mau
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Reigns-Taker would KILL Reigns.
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Alex Y.
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Heel reigns after retiring taker would have good feuds vs Ambrose, face Rollins, Lesnar, cena, etc.
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Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:56 am |
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Mau
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they're also not turning him heel. And him beating Taker would make me quit watching. lol
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Mister Ecks
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For the third year in a row, they face a potentially disastrous main-event. Roman Reigns and Triple H will be awful. I honestly was convinced Reigns had turned a corner, but the fans haven't changed their opinion. It's an absolute must to turn Reigns soon.
For now, they have to add Ambrose or someone else to the match. Not Lesnar. Lesnar's run at the top needs a break.
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Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:56 pm |
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Reigns isn't turning. He's the new Cena. He had won the crowd over with the Vince feud and awesome title win over Sheamus on Raw. They once again screwed him in the rumble. The stretcher job was so corny and really the only bad part of that entire show.
Maybe Roman and Dean get a double pin on Lesnar and make it a 3-way at Mania.
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Mister Ecks
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I don't know, besides ECW One Night Stand and Vs. CM Punk in 2011, I don't think Cena was ever booed as badly as Reigns has been during major PPVs. And unlike when Cena came along, I don't think WWE is as desperate for a new top face right now. If they don't turn Reigns sometime in the next six months, this won't change.
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Biggestgeekever
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Alex Y.
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Taker deserves to have a main eventer opponent for his final match. Reigns is pretty much the only healthy top guy on the roster that is not a been there, done that; and the other options have been in WWE main roster less than a year. if this is really Taker's last hurrah, this may be Reigns' only chance to face him.
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Mister Ecks
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I really hope WWE doesn't screw over AJ Styles. His debut at the Rumble and the match on RAW felt really special. I hope he's not treated like royalty until Mania and then given the typical outsider treatment.
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