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That's it? After all that, that's what we get out of him?


I think this by itself is pretty bad, especially the Pittsburgh playoff game, considering it lead to the Pats first Super Bowl title.

*** he tapes sent to the NFL show the Patriots recorded signals in regular-season games against Miami, Buffalo, Cleveland and San Diego, and against Pittsburgh in the 2002 AFC championship game.

And also if he taped all of that, I bet you they did tape the SB but it wasn't sent or was lost earlier.


No evidence means it never happened. Sorry, you lose.


Loss, whatever..... and if they cheated in the AFC title game - then no Super Bowl. Too bad blind fans ignore those facts.

Anyay, it is amazing that this guy needed to cheat through his whole NE coaching career.


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Video taping signals is not against the rules.

Video taping signals from the sidelines is illegal.

The only difference between the 2 is that one is in an enclosed area where people monitor you and the other is on the sideline.

Hardly a major thing.

Yet nobody seems to realize this and just go straight to how "horrible" it is

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Besides they admitted to doing it so this isn't new. There is also no proof that it effected the game. It isn't like they had the refs in their pocket or something. This is not the Black Sox scandal.


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Video taping signals is not against the rules.

Video taping signals from the sidelines is illegal.

The only difference between the 2 is that one is in an enclosed area where people monitor you and the other is on the sideline.

Hardly a major thing.

Yet nobody seems to realize this and just go straight to how "horrible" it is


but as they were the only team penalized, it seems pretty bad. Also if any of teams were in question, NE wouldn't be on the hot seat by themselves. >>>> New England’s videotaping of opposing coaches’ playcalling signals in violation of league rules.


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The NFL knew this was going on, they knew many teams were doing it.

Mangini blew the whistle because he was tired of losing, and now the NFL had to make an example out of NE to hope to wash their hands of the mess.

That's why they want it to go away. They don't want to go through what the MLB is/was going through with their steroids issue.

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Patriots Fans... Let Us Turn To The Dark Side

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Time for Pats fans to embrace the dark side
by Mike Dussault/Bleacher Report, Special to FOXSports.com

When I was growing up, I wanted to be Luke Skywalker. I wanted to be the underdog, the good guy who took on the evil Empire and triumphed. As a Patriots fan since the early '80s, I've lived the fan-equivalent to being young Skywalker.

First, in 2001, the Pats were the young upstarts, who somehow managed to fire their photon torpedoes into the Death Star that was the St. Louis Rams and become unlikely champions of the world.

For the first half of this decade, the Pats were praised as the ultimate team. They didn't always have the stars but they always seemed to come out on top. Peyton Manning could have his commercials and glossy receivers, the Patriots did just fine with a collection of castoffs and overachieving rookies.

As recently as 2006, the Pats waltzed into NFL superstar-haven San Diego, and defeated the likes of LaDainian Tomlinson and Shawne Merriman with the likes of Reche Caldwell and Artrell Hawkins.

In 2007, things changed. Maybe it was Spygate, maybe it was Bill Belichick's demeanor, maybe Tom Brady's good looks and dating habits, or the addition of all-stars like Adalius Thomas and Randy Moss, but the Patriots were no longer Luke Skywalker. They became Darth Vader.

At first, I really didn't want to be Darth Vader. I wanted to be the good guy. I wanted to be respected and admired by sports networks and opposing fans alike as a team that was the model of what a professional sports franchise should be.

Unfortunately, and maybe this is an indictment of American society as a whole, but when you're on top it's natural for people to want to tear you down. Spygate became the catalyst that transformed this century's "America's Team" into the newest Evil Empire in sports.

No one mourned the Patriots when the Giants defeated them in the this year's Super Bowl, closing the book on what was almost the most magical season in NFL history — just like no one mourned the Death Star when Luke blew it into oblivion.

As to how much effect the tapes of Spygate had on the three Super Bowls wins and countless other victories is debatable. Pats fans will say they had zero effect, while Pats haters will say it was actually one of the tapes and not Adam Vinatieri that kicked the game winners in XXXVI and XXXIX.

Regardless, in the eyes of the NFL — the only people that truly matter when it comes to the legacy of the game — and owners like Pittsburgh's Art Rooney, the videotaping scandal had little-to-no impact on the outcome of any games. That's good enough for me, no matter what any opposing fans or "pundits" like Mark "Go Broncos" Schlereth say.

Sure, it stung at first when people would say the Patriots legacy was tainted, that they were cheaters, that the Super Bowl seasons deserved asterisks. Then I realized something ...

In the words of Bill Murray in Meatballs, IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

This is sports and rooting for the bad guy is actually a whole lot more fun. Who wants to be the fan of a team that everyone loves? What fun is that? Do we want fans of other teams to come up to us and tell us how great our team is? That they wish they were fans of our team instead of their own? No.

What I want as a fan is to watch my team win. That is what the Patriots have done and, with the conclusion of Spygate, will continue to do.

That's right. We're evil. And we're going to hang 50 points on your team and continue to pour it on until the final gun sounds. Sorry guys — Belichick's going to be running the Patriots for at least another five years. So instead of whining about Spygate, maybe you should start following another sport. I hear cricket is a rip-roaring good time.

That is why "Embrace the Hate in '08" has become my slogan for this season's Patriots, because ultimately, underneath the cries of "cheaters" and "asterisks" is nothing but jealousy. Jealousy that their team isn't the one blowing teams off the field; that they don't get to enjoy putting up 52 points on the supposedly respectable Redskins.

Does anyone really think that Joe Fan really gives two craps about the "integrity of the game?" You don't think they'd trade their own team bending the rules for an undefeated regular season and a few Super Bowls?

So I say to my fellow Pats fans: The hard times are almost over. Spygate will be dead to the only people who matter — us Pats fans and the NFL.

For those who hate us — specifically, opposing fans — it will continue to live on. That's fine.

With each New England victory, their reliance on "cheaters" as a put-down will become increasingly more comical, and will do nothing to prevent their team's annihilation on the gridiron.

Embrace the hate. We're Darth Vader. And they're living on Alderaan.

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http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=7852057

It's amazing how anyone can take Walsh seriously. I mean, COME ON.

Whatever. Keep piling it on! I WANT to be the bad guys.

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Patriots Fans... Let Us Turn To The Dark Side

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Time for Pats fans to embrace the dark side
by Mike Dussault/Bleacher Report, Special to FOXSports.com

When I was growing up, I wanted to be Luke Skywalker. I wanted to be the underdog, the good guy who took on the evil Empire and triumphed. As a Patriots fan since the early '80s, I've lived the fan-equivalent to being young Skywalker.

First, in 2001, the Pats were the young upstarts, who somehow managed to fire their photon torpedoes into the Death Star that was the St. Louis Rams and become unlikely champions of the world.

For the first half of this decade, the Pats were praised as the ultimate team. They didn't always have the stars but they always seemed to come out on top. Peyton Manning could have his commercials and glossy receivers, the Patriots did just fine with a collection of castoffs and overachieving rookies.

As recently as 2006, the Pats waltzed into NFL superstar-haven San Diego, and defeated the likes of LaDainian Tomlinson and Shawne Merriman with the likes of Reche Caldwell and Artrell Hawkins.

In 2007, things changed. Maybe it was Spygate, maybe it was Bill Belichick's demeanor, maybe Tom Brady's good looks and dating habits, or the addition of all-stars like Adalius Thomas and Randy Moss, but the Patriots were no longer Luke Skywalker. They became Darth Vader.

At first, I really didn't want to be Darth Vader. I wanted to be the good guy. I wanted to be respected and admired by sports networks and opposing fans alike as a team that was the model of what a professional sports franchise should be.

Unfortunately, and maybe this is an indictment of American society as a whole, but when you're on top it's natural for people to want to tear you down. Spygate became the catalyst that transformed this century's "America's Team" into the newest Evil Empire in sports.

No one mourned the Patriots when the Giants defeated them in the this year's Super Bowl, closing the book on what was almost the most magical season in NFL history — just like no one mourned the Death Star when Luke blew it into oblivion.

As to how much effect the tapes of Spygate had on the three Super Bowls wins and countless other victories is debatable. Pats fans will say they had zero effect, while Pats haters will say it was actually one of the tapes and not Adam Vinatieri that kicked the game winners in XXXVI and XXXIX.

Regardless, in the eyes of the NFL — the only people that truly matter when it comes to the legacy of the game — and owners like Pittsburgh's Art Rooney, the videotaping scandal had little-to-no impact on the outcome of any games. That's good enough for me, no matter what any opposing fans or "pundits" like Mark "Go Broncos" Schlereth say.

Sure, it stung at first when people would say the Patriots legacy was tainted, that they were cheaters, that the Super Bowl seasons deserved asterisks. Then I realized something ...

In the words of Bill Murray in Meatballs, IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

This is sports and rooting for the bad guy is actually a whole lot more fun. Who wants to be the fan of a team that everyone loves? What fun is that? Do we want fans of other teams to come up to us and tell us how great our team is? That they wish they were fans of our team instead of their own? No.

What I want as a fan is to watch my team win. That is what the Patriots have done and, with the conclusion of Spygate, will continue to do.

That's right. We're evil. And we're going to hang 50 points on your team and continue to pour it on until the final gun sounds. Sorry guys — Belichick's going to be running the Patriots for at least another five years. So instead of whining about Spygate, maybe you should start following another sport. I hear cricket is a rip-roaring good time.

That is why "Embrace the Hate in '08" has become my slogan for this season's Patriots, because ultimately, underneath the cries of "cheaters" and "asterisks" is nothing but jealousy. Jealousy that their team isn't the one blowing teams off the field; that they don't get to enjoy putting up 52 points on the supposedly respectable Redskins.

Does anyone really think that Joe Fan really gives two craps about the "integrity of the game?" You don't think they'd trade their own team bending the rules for an undefeated regular season and a few Super Bowls?

So I say to my fellow Pats fans: The hard times are almost over. Spygate will be dead to the only people who matter — us Pats fans and the NFL.

For those who hate us — specifically, opposing fans — it will continue to live on. That's fine.

With each New England victory, their reliance on "cheaters" as a put-down will become increasingly more comical, and will do nothing to prevent their team's annihilation on the gridiron.

Embrace the hate. We're Darth Vader. And they're living on Alderaan.


Well this was true of the last two NFL dynasties. Everybody hated the Cowboys (except Cowboys fans) near the end and the same with the Niners. It is kind the nature of the game.


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For anyone interested, here is a pretty good article about how Belichick could have interpreted the rules:

http://thesportslawprofessor.blogspot.com/2007/09/bill-belichicks-interpretation.html

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...

I'm watching the Spike Awards... they had the "Most Unstoppable Jock" award...

Eli Manning beat Tiger Woods. It made me laugh. Hardcore.

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I'm watching the Spike Awards... they had the "Most Unstoppable Jock" award...

Eli Manning beat Tiger Woods. It made me laugh. Hardcore.


On Eli - so sad you are still a hater. Yes, he deserves whatever they give him.

winning what 12 road games in a row.

and winning 4 straight playoff games on the road againist supposely better / favored teams.


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I'm watching the Spike Awards... they had the "Most Unstoppable Jock" award...

Eli Manning beat Tiger Woods. It made me laugh. Hardcore.


On Eli - so sad you are still a hater. Yes, he deserves whatever they give him.

winning what 12 road games in a row.

and winning 4 straight playoff games on the road againist supposely better / favored teams.



but I don't think he was playing basically without knees. No way he should have beaten Tiger.


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It took me about an hour today before I realized who Adam Jones was. Imus just can't help himself, from delving into racism.


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owned a 20 person 25 play draft yesterday...got me hyasselback, ronnie brown, mcgahee, plaxico, roddy white... :thumbsup:

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So... Favre might unretire (again). Surprise!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3471189


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So, Favre asked to be released and will play for another team next year. What an idiot, he's hurting his legacy


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It's not like he'll ever play. Don't forget he has the Madden curse on him now.


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It's not like he'll ever play. Don't forget he has the Madden curse on him now.


He will try to play but will go out like Johnny Unitis or Joe Namath. Only Joe Montana had any success after he left his former team like that.


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Hes gonna to Chicago and suck :funny: :funny:

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Excel BOLDY predicts 2008's MVP to none other than...

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#39 in your playbooks, #1 in your hearts, Koolaid Maroney! The shifty, speedy, tank-esque running back is set to rape unsuspecting defenses!

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:disgust:

No. He's not even MVP of the team.

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Not yet :thumbsup:

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As long as Brady is there, he's the MVP.

The team lives and dies by his arm.

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As long as Brady is there, he's the MVP.

The team lives and dies by his arm.


AFC Champsionship???

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The team lives and dies by Brady's arm.

He was 66% with 209 yards and 2 TD's.

Maroney had 122 yards and 1 TD.

They could have gotten that from Faulk.

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