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Dr. Lecter
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The Lone Ranger
The Lone RangerQuote: The Lone Ranger is a 2013 American action-adventure western film produced by Walt Disney Pictures and Jerry Bruckheimer Films and directed by Gore Verbinski, based on the radio series of the same name. The film stars Armie Hammer in the title role and Johnny Depp as Tonto. The film marks the first theatrical film featuring the Lone Ranger character in over 32 years. It was released theatrically on July 3, 2013. Discuss!
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:13 am |
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David
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Re: The Lone Ranger
I enjoyed The Lone Ranger a great deal even as I recognize its various flaws and lapses in judgment. At 150 minutes, it is longer than is required by 25 or even 30 minutes (and a harsher critic who does not admire the film as I do might say 50). There is a fair amount of content which is in no way required, but remains. Consider Helena Bonham Carter as a saloon proprietor and madam with a concealed gun for a leg; a fun character, granted, but a peripheral distraction, the type which crowds the picture as a whole. Consider also a melancholic prologue which finds an aged Tonto living in thirties San Francisco, which is pleasant, including a spectacular rendering of a half constructed Golden Gate Bridge, but extraneous. There are also a few points where the film threatens to crash into the wall while navigating whiplash inducing tonal shifts, including from playful adventure to grim memorial to an ending Native American way of life. The stars are fantastic, though. The on-location photography is atmospheric and sweeping, and one imagines, on a visual level at least, this is how John Ford would have utilized 200-plus million of the Mouse House's dollars. Each action set piece, including a spectacular final train chase set, in an inspired move, to the William Tell Overture, is a spectacle through and through. Much of the action has a practical, sets-and-stunts quality even though I am certain computers contributed to an extensive degree. And even when one can sense the film going down a questionable route, it is clear it is produced with intelligence, love, and style and is a popcorn pleasure in a way most of the summer's other big releases, such as Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel, are not.
B+
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David
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Re: The Lone Ranger
The final train chase is the first big-budget action sequence in awhile to truly wow me and fill me with earnest wonder and glee. So good. Not only is it a spectacle, but it is choreographed with such precision and wit. Not just wanton destruction filmed up close.
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: The Lone Ranger
I had to sign a retarded NDA which forbids me to talk about my opinion of the film until July 20th. LOL
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Re: The Lone Ranger
THE LONE RANGER
I loved the Lone Ranger. I think Armie Hammer and Depp nail their roles. I liked how they presented the film with Tonto and the little boy. I think the female role could have had a prettier face for it. Carter was probably the least necessary person in the film. If anything could have been cut because the film IS a long one then her character and scenes could have been trimmed. I don't know what else could be cut after that since I enjoyed everything else. It's at parts funny, action filled and a bit dramatic at times. The backstory with Tonto is very well done and I also loved how they incorporated the trademark music in the final battle which was also extremely well done. Finally, the villain(s) were excellent. So in conclusion, I just enjoyed it to a T.
Grade - A
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Just looked at RT and MetaCritic and saw the critics ripped this film a new one. I'm surprised.
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:31 am |
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Dr. Lecter wrote: Just looked at RT and MetaCritic and saw the critics ripped this film a new one. I'm surprised. Yes yes. I think also some of the moviegoing audience may be just tired of seeing Depp do "flashy" roles. It's like always a riff off of Jack Sparrow. Plus, I think another complaint is that it's Pirates but set in the West. Me, I didn't get that at all. I'm not gonna connect a Jack Sparrow performance with a Mad Hatter or Tonto. I don't get that type of thinking but whatever. Each their own.
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Brian
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Deep and the Pirates team are doomed with critics
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David
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Re: The Lone Ranger
The negativity of the reviews mystifies me. The film is not perfect, but, in my estimation, it is far more special and well-crafted than most summer tent-pole releases.
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Chippy
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Re: The Lone Ranger
I guess now you know how Man Of Steel fans feel.
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Re: The Lone Ranger
B
It has a really good first twenty minutes and an excellent final twenty minutes, but the hundred in between are too slow for the film's good. It has some trouble balancing tonal shifts, but on the whole it's actually really funny.
That $250m is all on screen, by the way. The film is amazing to look at.
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David
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Re: The Lone Ranger
It cannot be stressed enough how beautiful this film is. The shot compositions are marvelous, and there is always a potent Old West atmosphere. It is a breath of fresh air in a summer long on fairly ugly or at best blandly flat tent-pole releases.
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Chippy wrote: I guess now you know how Man Of Steel fans feel. No. Man of Steel got overall decent reviews, The Lone Ranger's are outright very negative.
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Re: The Lone Ranger
David wrote: The final train chase is the first big-budget action sequence in awhile to truly wow me and fill me with earnest wonder and glee. So good. Not only is it a spectacle, but it is choreographed with such precision and wit. Not just wanton destruction filmed up close. Yeah, that was easily the most fun I've had in a movie theater since TDKR. Verbinski just has a way with insane action sequences like this. And the usage of William Tell Overture is just delightful. I enjoyed this a lot! Saddened a little that it's going to be remembered as such a big flop.
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Corpse
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Re: The Lone Ranger
I really enjoyed it and will probably see it again in theaters. The opening sequence is great, but the final 10-15 minutes are the most fun I've had in theaters since... How to Train Your Dragon. An older lady to my left was also clearly enjoying it clapping anytime Tonto, John or Silver did anything at all during the finale It's how a final action sequence/finale should be done. Other favorite scenes included Tonto rescuing John at the mine entrance and Silver eating the scorpions (or just appearing in random places). A-. This is the last time I even bother to visit Rotten Tomatoes or MetaCritic for movie reviews, also.
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: The Lone Ranger
When I saw the film I had no idea whatsoever what reviews it was getting. Didn't see a single one beforehand. After the viewing, I checked RT snd MC and I was outright shocked. I guess The Lone Ranger might be one of the films with the biggest discrepancy between WOKJ users' reception and the critics.
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Plenty wonky and heap good fun.
The Lone Ranger - - the original western super hero, translates quite well to the big screen.
Johnny Depp does his thang and Armand Hammer keeps up pretty dang well.
I suppose it helps if you're fluent in all the more obscure western tropes, cause this mega budget blockbuster is a decidedly b-movie at heart, and squeezes every ounce of prairie dust out of the genre.
The humor is pleasantly off kilter - - for example, that early little scene of the Lone Ranger helping out the little girl on the train.
Plus, I'd like to single out the fact that the FX physics were unusually believable despite some of the absurd complications - - some of the finest film physics ever.
Yeah, it's no miracle of filmmaking, but it's a darn sight better than most of the other horse dung out this summer.
4 out of 5.
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Algren
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Judging from its box office, I knew Bradley would love it.
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Brian
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Believe it or not, sometimes Bradley is right on his tastes
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Algren wrote: Judging from its box office, I knew Bradley would love it. To be fair, everyone in this thread so far liked the film. And frnakly, for Bradley, that rating isn't all that high.
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:51 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Lone Ranger
This.. Dr. Lecter wrote: To be fair, everyone in this thread so far liked the film. Affected this... Dr. Lecter wrote: that rating isn't all that high. I bet he loved it more than the "4 out of 5" suggests, and I bet he's kicking himself that other KJers are liking it too, because if they had hated it, he would have given it one of his trademark 'perfect' scores.
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Doesn't really deserve such a horrid RT score but at the same time the movie just isn't very good. Hammer and Depp are fine with what they're given but it's not much. Once we get to a pretty entertaining final action sequence it's kinda too late for the movie to be elevated.
The whole telling the story through old Tonto doesn't work at all. It doesn't feel like a 2 and a half hour movie but it could've been tighter.
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Brian
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Re: The Lone Ranger
Disappointing film, I was really expecting the begining of a new franchise, but this movie had me bored for more than an hour
Agree with most of you, the last 15 minutes are the best of it.
For me, the pirates triology directed by Verbinski is far better than this; even Rango, which I liked a lot, looks like a masterpiece compared to The Lone Ranger
Though I'll give it a new chance when it comes out on blu
B-/C+
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David
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Re: The Lone Ranger
I love how he says "even Rango" as if Rango were not leagues superior to this any any Pirates film.
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Brian
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Re: The Lone Ranger
David wrote: I love how he says "even Rango" as if Rango were not leagues superior to this any any Pirates film. LOL, you are right on this one
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