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9Quote: 9 is a 2009 American computer-animated science fantasy thriller film directed by Shane Acker and produced by Tim Burton and Timur Bekmambetov. The film stars Elijah Wood, John C. Reilly, Jennifer Connelly, Crispin Glover, Martin Landau and Christopher Plummer. It is based on Acker's Academy Award-nominated 2005 short film of the same name. The screenplay for the film was written by Pamela Pettler, with casting by Mindy Marin, production design by Robert St. Pierre and Fred Warter, and art direction by Christophe Vacher.
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trixster
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Re: 9 [2009]
It does a great job setting up its world, but then does very little with it. Indeed, the film seems to get worse as it goes along, finally petering out (after a stretched-out 80 minutes) with a ridiculously awful finale involving the passage of souls to heaven, or some such nonsense. It's jaw-droppingly terrible, and I would say it ruins the film if the script wasn't beset with similar kinds of awfulness throughout, including some rather lame dialogue and convoluted terminology. And every time Elijah Wood's character opens his mouth, I wanted to die, though that's more the fault of Elijah Wood than the script.
Still, the film itself is beautiful to behold, the action sequences are thrilling and easy to follow, and the whole thing unfolds with great attention to detail and a general sense of awe. If it was silent, I probably would've loved it. As it stands, it's merely good.
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:30 pm |
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Vanilla
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Re: 9 [2009]
^ I agree with you on most points, but the downer for me is that it really does not explain anything at the end of the film. I wanted to know why he made them.
Very cool to look at tho
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Chippy
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Re: 9 [2009]
Maybe it should've STAYED a short film...
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:41 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: 9 [2009]
The post-apocalyptic landscape is enthralling and majestic. The characters and plot, not so much. The action is ferocious and plentiful, but never particularly involving, perhaps because the characters are so bland and interchangeable, despite solid vocal performances from an ensemble cast including Elijah Wood, John C. Reilly, and Jennifer Connelly. A plot driven by spiritual mumbo jumbo and Terminator leftovers doesn't help matters.
I expected more from this Tim Burton/Timur Bekmambetov (Wanted) co-production.
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Johnny Dollar
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Re: 9 [2009]
A 70-minute chase scene that never for a moment makes a lick of fucking sense. Ugh.
At least it was short!
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:30 pm |
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Michael A
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Re: 9 [2009]
I loved it.
The story felt rushed, and if they had slowed it down a little it would've made more sense and been better developed. However, this is a minor fault. The images are as beautiful as they are dark, the action scenes are probably the best directed and performed of the year. The characters are all underveloped stereotypes, however they really don't need to be more. The stereotypes all make sense and are interesting. It felt cliched sure, but it's done in a way that is rarely if ever seen, and the visual style more than makes up for any faults in the plot or characterization. Besides, it's not the maltese falcon, not every character needs to be a deep and fully constructed reality, it's okay, maybe even better the way it is.
8/10.
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Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:18 am |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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Re: 9 [2009]
Tim Burton brings out another wonderful piece of animation here with 9 though it doesn't quite reach the heights of some of his previous works. 9 starts out with the birth of 9 and him beginning to see all the pieces of a post-apoctalyptic world. During his journey he meets another like him 2 who is on the hunt for "The Beast". As 2 is taken from "The Beast" the film truly begins in the hunt to destroy all the machines that had destroyed the Earth. The story is rich along with the animation and action. However it would of been nice to have some more backstory with the other members of the clan throughout the story. Overall its a nice little animated flick that deserves its PG-13 rating. **1/2
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Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:43 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: 9 [2009]
I saw this film yesterday afternoon and the details are already slipping rapidly out of my mind. I remember 9 rousing in the scientist's room, going out into the ruined city, finding 2, etc., but the rest of the plot, including the purpose of the device which both starts and destroys the biggest machine, is already vanishing into a haze.
Ugh, I am almost a bit sad this film, which seemed very promising and, well, badass, ended up being so slight. Disappointment!
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
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Re: 9 [2009]
It's a mess from start to finish basically, but overall still decent.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Re: 9 [2009]
I loved 9! I loved it's dark, melancholy vibe. I loved it's marvellously expressive burlap doll character animation. I loved it's mysterious apocalyptic storyline and how it was slowly revealed, and I especially loved it's hopeful, yet realistic ending. Plus, the unusual selection and mix of voice actors brought 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, & 9 to life. This was the rare movie that surprised me with it's abundance of creativity and vision. It's a true pleasure to see a great science fiction movie such as 9! I can't believe that they dumped it's release in the first week back to school dead zone - - it's director must have become obsessed with the 9/9/9 date - - this fine film should have been given a premiere release date. Though, on second thought, perhaps the poetic and philosophical tone of the film would have flown over the heads of Transformer-sucking teens anyways, so perhaps it was best to hide it from the humans... out of
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Michael A
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Re: 9 [2009]
uh oh, the only other person that really likes this is bradley?
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Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:59 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Re: 9 [2009]
John Savage wrote: uh oh, the only other person that really likes this is bradley? Even worse - - I really liked one point you made in your review: John Savage wrote: The characters are all underveloped stereotypes, however they really don't need to be more. The stereotypes all make sense and are interesting. It felt cliched sure, but it's done in a way that is rarely if ever seen, and the visual style more than makes up for any faults in the plot or characterization. Besides, it's not the maltese falcon, not every character needs to be a deep and fully constructed reality, it's okay, maybe even better the way it is. As divided into nine separate aspects of the scientist's soul, I thought the nine characters were indeed better that way...
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Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:56 pm |
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Michael A
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Re: 9 [2009]
yep, I'm scurred.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Viper Rodgers
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Re: 9 [2009]
Huge disappointment for me... I really thought it was a poorly made movie, mainly due to Acker's lack of experience in filmmaking. D+ As always though, here is my review and podcast... Review: http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2009/09 ... pointment/Podcast: To come soon....
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Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:49 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Re: 9 [2009]
Brünviper wrote: Huge disappointment for me... I really thought it was a poorly made movie, mainly due to Acker's lack of experience in filmmaking. D+ One only has to go back to Brünviper's review of Knowing earlier this year, to realize that he has no taste for thoughtful sci-fi films like 9: Brünviper wrote: Fuck this movie... I honestly don't understand how so many of you liked it and am not going to argue it since Jeff seems to be my only ally and I dont want to fight a loosing battle. But yeah... D-
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Viper Rodgers
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Re: 9 [2009]
Bradley Witherberry wrote: Brünviper wrote: Huge disappointment for me... I really thought it was a poorly made movie, mainly due to Acker's lack of experience in filmmaking. D+ One only has to go back to Brünviper's review of Knowing earlier this year, to realize that he has no taste for thoughtful sci-fi films like 9: Brünviper wrote: Fuck this movie... I honestly don't understand how so many of you liked it and am not going to argue it since Jeff seems to be my only ally and I dont want to fight a loosing battle. But yeah... D- Like I say in my review, when done right, Sc-Fi films can be the best, aka The Matrix (my favorite movie of all time). This one just didn't have enough going for it on so many different levels...
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Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:11 pm |
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Michael A
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Re: 9 [2009]
I can see hating knowing, but the only way I can see loathing this is if you just take it way too seriously. It's a 70 minute animated chase scene about 9 pieces of some weird scientists soul. In other words, it's not really meant to be that serious, it's just fun, and beautiful.
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:29 pm |
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Mr. Lobotomy
Well I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up - I got so high I can't stand up
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Re: 9 [2009]
John Savage wrote: but the only way I can see loathing this is if you just take it way too seriously. It's a 70 minute animated chase scene about 9 pieces of some weird scientists soul. That wasn't the best description to give this movie when trying to say that no one should be able to loathe it.
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:42 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Re: 9 [2009]
Mr. Lobotomy wrote: John Savage wrote: but the only way I can see loathing this is if you just take it way too seriously. It's a 70 minute animated chase scene about 9 pieces of some weird scientists soul. That wasn't the best description to give this movie when trying to say that no one should be able to loathe it. Perhaps not, but it certainly helps to define the nature of one who is able to...
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:53 pm |
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Michael A
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Re: 9 [2009]
Mr. Lobotomy wrote: John Savage wrote: but the only way I can see loathing this is if you just take it way too seriously. It's a 70 minute animated chase scene about 9 pieces of some weird scientists soul. That wasn't the best description to give this movie when trying to say that no one should be able to loathe it. That's the definition of awesome. Do you need awesome lessons? I can fill you in somewhere between snack and yoshue.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Re: 9 [2009]
Nothing gets between snack and yoshue, you fool.
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:10 am |
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Viper Rodgers
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:08 pm |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
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Re: 9 [2009]
Thanks to some seriously lowered expectations and two magical brownies, I enjoyed it. The dialogue was very silly - the character of 1 was almost as laughable as the big evil machine getting mad and shooting off sparks - but there is a very fully realized world here with some pretty sweet action. I could forgive the sub-par dialogue because, as Bradley astutely pointed out, these aren't real people but pieces of one guy. But as trixster pointed out, them all being silent wouldn't have hurt either.
It's funny how this felt totally new and completely conventional at the same time. It was very clear that this was Shane Acker's directional debut. I'm eager to see what he comes up with next.
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:35 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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Re: 9 [2009]
I liked this movie. The animation was great, and it had a nice pace.
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