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MadGez
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22680 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Swing Vote
Swing VoteQuote: Swing Vote is a 2008 comedy-drama film about an entire U.S. presidential election determined by the vote of one man. It was directed by Joshua Michael Stern and starred Kevin Costner, Paula Patton, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Hopper, Nathan Lane, Stanley Tucci, George Lopez and Madeline Carroll. The film was released on August 1, 2008.
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The Mr Pink
What would Jesus *not* do?
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:55 am Posts: 829 Location: Going Up the Down Escalator
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Re: Swing Vote
Starting from a severly implausible premise and working backwards Swing Vote is a poor mans attempt at aspiring to be Capra film and falling miles short. There is nothing really new presented in the film except a bunch of heavy handed attempts at guilting the audience into becoming more politically involved. Costner mails in his role while Dennis Hopper is probably the miscast of the year in his role as a democratic presidential candidate. The only real bright spot of the film is the young actress that plays Buds daughter Molly (Madeline Carroll). Not a bad film but nothing worth rushing out to see either, maybe worth Netflixing.
Grade C-
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:17 am |
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Harry Warden
Orphan
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 19747
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Re: Swing Vote
I thought Kelsey Grammar was pretty good but Hopper was kind of weak.
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:25 am |
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The Mr Pink
What would Jesus *not* do?
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:55 am Posts: 829 Location: Going Up the Down Escalator
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Re: Swing Vote
Joe wrote: I thought Kelsey Grammar was pretty good but Hopper was kind of weak. Yeah Grammar was decent as a Bush republican parody, Hopper was so out of place I'm surprised no one noticed during filming.
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:31 am |
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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308
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Re: Swing Vote
Kevin Costner has done little of value with his career since his peak in 1990, when 'Dances With Wolves,' a film he both directed and starred in, picked up seven Oscars, including Best Director for himself and Best Picture of the year. Since then, he has made a lot of weak choices as an actor, placing himself in both box office duds (such as 'Waterworld') and a lot of movies that just weren't very good and didn't call for any kind of acting (or directing) talent on his part.
In 'Swing Vote,' Costner plays Bud, a very untidy, verbose, and uncaring man who suddenly finds himself in charge of the most important decision of the year. The entire movie functions around how Bud changes from his former self into somebody of value. And through this role - starting out extremely unlikable and transforming into somebody with his heart in the right place - Kevin Costner delivers his best performance in over a decade. So much of the movie succeeds because of his charisma as an actor, playing this drunken feller who completely contrasts basically every other major character in the film, even his daughter.
If you aren't willing to accept the fact that the concept behind 'Swing Vote' is nothing short of impossible, you're bound to dislike it, as that suspension of belief is an absolute must for a movie like this. And 'Swing Vote' isn't about the idea that something like this could happen. It's about everything that happens next.
An all-star cast - led by Costner and also featuring Paula Patton, Nathan Lane, Stanley Tucci, George Lopez, Kelsey Grammar, Dennis Hopper, the young and quite talented Madeline Carroll, and a number of fitting celebrity cameos - is the real core of this movie, as once we get past the far-fetched concept, the movie is all about them and how they are affected by what happens, and how they ultimately are forced to change, sometimes in ways they don't believe in, but sometimes for the better.
The film offers a delicate balance between sharp semi-political satire (the highlights being the commercials the presidential candidates are forced to run: Kelsey Grammar's Republican Andrew Boone says 'I Do!' to Gay Marriage) and touching, almost melodramatic drama (most of which appears in the latter half of the film), and while it could have been stronger on both fronts, the fact that it never makes you cry due to laughs or sad emotion gives it that Capra-esque feel, something that must have been director Joshua Michael Stern's intention.
Kevin Costner in his first great performance in years, a splendid cast backing him up, and a very strong ending make up for whatever feelings one may have over its ridiculous set-up, as well as a few too-fluffy moments. But if you take 'Swing Vote' literally, you're missing the point of the entire film.
B+
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Re: Swing Vote
How's it play as a feel-good movie?
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:57 am |
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STROKER ACE
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Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 7:07 pm Posts: 199
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Re: Swing Vote
The Mr Pink wrote: Joe wrote: I thought Kelsey Grammar was pretty good but Hopper was kind of weak. Yeah Grammar was decent as a Bush republican parody, Hopper was so out of place I'm surprised no one noticed during filming. I don't understand this take. Grammar wasn't doing a Bush imitation/parody. His performance was better than that.
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:50 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: Swing Vote
To those who've seen this: is it true Hopper is barely in it? I know he's been complaining in the media his performance was largely left on the cutting room floor. He mentioned this in a "Daily Show" interview.
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:51 am |
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Optimus_Prime
Okay, I Believe You But My Tommy Gun Don't
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:34 pm Posts: 816
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Re: Swing Vote
billybobwashere wrote: Kevin Costner has done little of value with his career since his peak in 1990, when 'Dances With Wolves,' a film he both directed and starred in, picked up seven Oscars, including Best Director for himself and Best Picture of the year. Since then, he has made a lot of weak choices as an actor, placing himself in both box office duds (such as 'Waterworld') and a lot of movies that just weren't very good and didn't call for any kind of acting (or directing) talent on his part.
In 'Swing Vote,' Costner plays Bud, a very untidy, verbose, and uncaring man who suddenly finds himself in charge of the most important decision of the year. The entire movie functions around how Bud changes from his former self into somebody of value. And through this role - starting out extremely unlikable and transforming into somebody with his heart in the right place - Kevin Costner delivers his best performance in over a decade. So much of the movie succeeds because of his charisma as an actor, playing this drunken feller who completely contrasts basically every other major character in the film, even his daughter.
If you aren't willing to accept the fact that the concept behind 'Swing Vote' is nothing short of impossible, you're bound to dislike it, as that suspension of belief is an absolute must for a movie like this. And 'Swing Vote' isn't about the idea that something like this could happen. It's about everything that happens next.
An all-star cast - led by Costner and also featuring Paula Patton, Nathan Lane, Stanley Tucci, George Lopez, Kelsey Grammar, Dennis Hopper, the young and quite talented Madeline Carroll, and a number of fitting celebrity cameos - is the real core of this movie, as once we get past the far-fetched concept, the movie is all about them and how they are affected by what happens, and how they ultimately are forced to change, sometimes in ways they don't believe in, but sometimes for the better.
The film offers a delicate balance between sharp semi-political satire (the highlights being the commercials the presidential candidates are forced to run: Kelsey Grammar's Republican Andrew Boone says 'I Do!' to Gay Marriage) and touching, almost melodramatic drama (most of which appears in the latter half of the film), and while it could have been stronger on both fronts, the fact that it never makes you cry due to laughs or sad emotion gives it that Capra-esque feel, something that must have been director Joshua Michael Stern's intention.
Kevin Costner in his first great performance in years, a splendid cast backing him up, and a very strong ending make up for whatever feelings one may have over its ridiculous set-up, as well as a few too-fluffy moments. But if you take 'Swing Vote' literally, you're missing the point of the entire film.
B+ I am huge Kevin Costner fan so I am going to stand up and defend him, because he doesn't have a lot of support esp. on the interweb. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves The Bodyguard A Perfect World Open Range Four movies that were either a commerical success or critically acclaimed. I could go on, but you are correct most of his other movies have been polarizing, to put what you said in a nice way.
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm Posts: 12333
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Re: Swing Vote
A very fun and original comedy. Sure the chances of the plot happening are near impossible, but it just gives a very fun feeling to it. The father-daughter relationship between Kevin Costner and Madeline Carroll was great. Definetly a film that I will enjoy again and again as the years go by.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:28 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Re: Swing Vote
B
Swing Vote is a decent satire with one of Kevin Costner's better performances in years. As the washed up, carefree Average Joe Costner is the life of this film and he carries it well. However, as good as he may be, Madeline Carrol as his daughter Molly definitely can hold her own in their scenes together. Kelsey Grammar and Dennis Hopper make decent impressions as the opposing presidency candidates, but they just kind of lack the bite and it always appears as if the screenplay is holding them back a bit.
In fact that applies for the whole film which clearly intends to be a very smart satire with reflection of current events and a clear message to tell. Indeed, it does send its message to the audiences and there are a lot of amusing scenes and ideas here for a smart satire. However, the screenplay is just not sharp enough. Fact aside, that the whole plot point of the presidency depending on a single vote, the whole film just never manages to be as memorable or biting or enlightening as it aspires to be. A solid leading performance and a few funny situations make sure that the viewer is entertained throughout, but that won't start any discussion on the film.
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SolC9
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Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:11 pm Posts: 7172 Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Swing Vote
A-
I remember loving this when it came out a few years back. I picked up a used copy for $1.95 yesterday and just watched it again. Kevin Costner, Kelsey Grammer, and Stanley Tucci are all in this movie, but the best performance is from Madeline Carroll, who is simply fantastic. I laughed really hard several times at the satirical parts of this movie. It gets a bit melodramatic at times, but it's well worth it.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:03 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21152 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Swing Vote
I thought I had written something on this?
Capra-esque is the best way to describe the film. It's earnest and idealistic almost to a fault. But if you just go with the movie, the least you should take from it is how simple the political process should be and how fucked up by corruption it has become.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:11 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22680 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Swing Vote
Wow, I couldnt even recall that this film existed and I posted the thread!! Might be worth watching.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:50 pm |
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Thegun
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Re: Swing Vote
It's actually a lot better than any trailers or one would think it would be. Costner is in his Tin Cup/ Upside of Anger mode and works very well. As is the majority of the supporting cast. I wouldn't call it great or bad. I think Watchable Fluff is the best way to describe. It has that "Movie you've seen before, its on TBS and you'll watch it cause it's on, go back to what your doing" and then another viewing you catch the 2nd half. And that's a good thing.
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