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zingy
College Boy Z
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 Rocky IV
Rocky IV Quote: Rocky IV is a 1985 American film written by, directed by, and starring Sylvester Stallone. It is the fourth and most financially successful entry in the Rocky franchise. In the film, Rocky Balboa plans to retire from boxing after regaining his title from Clubber Lang in Rocky III while an unknown amateur boxer from the Soviet Union, Ivan Drago (played by Dolph Lundgren), makes a bid to enter the U.S. boxing ranks.
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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B-
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:39 am |
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Levy
Golfaholic
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Man, what a ridiculous movie. The final fight between Rocky and Drago is still good choreographed, but they should have stopped the Rocky saga after the third movie (on second thought there shouldn't have been any sequels at all). The structure resembles every other Rocky movie before and even the training sequences have become boring and unoriginal.Yet that didn't stop them from making another, even worse, sequel... (D-)
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:20 pm |
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Maximus
Hot Fuss
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D Really, really lame. Sorry. They should have stopped after the second.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:58 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68233 Location: Seattle, WA
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Rocky IV - A+
Quite frankly, the best movie ever. Its mix of motivation and enthusiasm with showmanship and revenge is brilliant. Not to mention the music, probably the best part of the film is the music, its amazing, there is NOT a better soundtrack out there. Ivan Drago is the best villian ever, you cant get better. Rocky is built amazingly for the role, his muscles take on a part in the movie itself. ANother plus, it was made in the same year as my 2nd best movie, Rambo: First Blood Part II, amazing!! Also, the year i was born, so it kinda has to be brilliant :wink:
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:51 am |
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baumer72
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake
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Forget the politics and this is one of the most entertaining films ever made, 22 September 1999
In 1976, a phenom was born. By now we are all aware of the story of how Stallone wrote the screenplay for Rocky in three days after watching a fight between an extreme underdog and a highly favoured champ. Stallone was a nobody back then yet he still stood his ground and didn't sell out to the producers until they promised him the title role. The rest they say is history. Well 9 years later, after three Rocky films, in my opinion comes the best one. I realize that Rocky was all story and then a climatic boxing match and that is what won the film the Oscar. And even though I can admit that this film is not as concerned with character developement as it is with training montages and bulging muscles, it is by far and away the most entertaining film of the 5. And that is what I enjoy about the film. I love that Rocky IV has some of the best training montages ever filmed. I love that it has the heart of a lion when it shows Rocky scaling a mountain that you know damn well he shouldn't be able to. And I absolutely love the boxing match at the end of the film. This was completely choreographed by Stallone and he and Dolph Lundgren boxed for real for about 75% of the match. Stallone felt that it needed some authenticity so that was the way to do it. And if you think Robert De Niro is an impressive method actor, try this fact on for size. When filming the boxing match, some of the scenes were so real that Stallone was rushed to hospital because his heart was actually pushed up and his ribcage was slightly shattered. So when you watch that match at the end, just know that what you are seeing is not exactly choreography and trick camera work. They did the best job they could to keep the look of the fight as real as possible. And I think this is the best boxing match ever filmed, with all due respect to Raging Bull.
Stallone was in the shape of his life in this year as he filmed Rocky and Rambo back to back and it shows. I have never seen a more sculpted man in the movies than he was here. And I think that added to his superman persona. If you notice in all the Rocky films, he grows a little each time. And that also adds to the enjoyment of the film.
Rocky IV is different than Rocky, there is no doubt. And as much as I love the first one, it doesn't come close to entertaining me as much as this one does. Rocky IV starts fast and it ends hard and in between we are blessed with a great soundtrack and a beautiful montage of all the Rocky films to Robert Tepper's "There's No Easy Way Out" And it is here that even though some will say that Stallone has substituted real human emotion with an MTV ersatz video, I think it works well. There is nothing about this film that I didn't enjoy and if you forget what the experience of watching this one is like, I suggest that you rent it now and take a look at it. And try to remember what it was like when you first saw this film back in the winter of 85. I remember I was in Kokomo Indiana visiting family for Christmas. My mom and I walked into a packed theater and you want to talk about a place erupting like a volcano, then this was the place. When Rocky finally hits Drago to cut him over the eye and Duke yells " he's cut, he's cut! " the crowd went into a frenzy. And you can look no further than that as to why the Rocky films were so popular. It doesn't matter if you are Canadian, American, Portuguese, Polish or Dutch or whatever, Rocky appeals to all of us. Because all of us have been the underdog at some time in our lives and we love to watch him and perhaps live vicariously through him. That is the beauty of Rocky. If Rocky can do it then dammit so can I!
When the movie ended on that cold night back in 1985, and people were filtering out to their cars for the drive home, I swear I could hear the crowd chanting his name, as did the millions..... and millions of the Rock's fans.
" Rocky! Rocky! Rocky!"
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Dr. Lecter
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B
Quality-wise, there is not much to see here, but this IS an entertaining movie, very much so and probably the most enjoyable of all Rocky flicks.
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:56 pm |
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Jmart
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One of the best guilty pleasures movies if I have ever seen one.
B+
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Thegun
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Probably one of the most unrealistic films ever, but my god it is so entertaining.
The Training Montages are great, the fights are greatly edited together. After the first film, each Rocky film was almost 10 minutes shorter than the last, Rocky 4 coming in a trim 97 minutes never gets boring. The acting is good when seen, the death of Apollo is sad to see, but this has such a great soundtrack and is edited so well.
The film may be a C, but its a A- in my book for entertainment.
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:56 am |
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baumer72
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I love this film!!
_________________ Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:12 pm |
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neo_wolf
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baumer72 wrote: I love this film!!
I also love it, that fight with Drago was entertaining ass hell! and i love when he's training and climbing the huge mountain, the soundtrack in that part i great!
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:00 pm |
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baumer72
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neo_wolf wrote: baumer72 wrote: I love this film!! I also love it, that fight with Drago was entertaining ass hell! and i love when he's training and climbing the huge mountain, the soundtrack in that part i great!
I still have the soundtrack on tape...and still listen to it at the gym sometimes. 
_________________ Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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Terminator1997
George A. Romero
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:30 pm Posts: 9773 Location: Enjoying a cold pint
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rocky IV is much thinner on plot than it's predecessors but it's just, if not more fun and entertaining.
B+
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:07 pm |
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baumer72
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Terminator1997 wrote: rocky IV is much thinner on plot than it's predecessors but it's just, if not more fun and entertaining.
B+
Rocky IV is what is. There is a reason it grossed 300 mill WW. It is about as much fun as you can have in a film.
_________________ Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:16 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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It is far more fun and entertainment than the original Rocky film.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:33 pm |
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baumer72
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Dr. Lecter wrote: It is far more fun and entertainment than the original Rocky film.
Absolutely. The first was the academy award type movie that the academy loves. The fourth is the one that the people love. 
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Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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Terminator1997
George A. Romero
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baumer72 wrote: Terminator1997 wrote: rocky IV is much thinner on plot than it's predecessors but it's just, if not more fun and entertaining.
B+ Rocky IV is what is. There is a reason it grossed 300 mill WW. It is about as much fun as you can have in a film.
exactly
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DIB2
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I Love this movie, second Best of the franchise IMO
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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My least favorite of the series.
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:41 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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The Dark Shape wrote: My least favorite of the series.
You have seen the fifth, right?
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21856 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Its my third favorite, I always found Stallone to be a much better director when it came to the Rocky movies. The 2nd remains my favorite, followed by the third, the first, and the 4th, but I wouldnt rank any of them under an A.
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The Dark Shape
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Dr. Lecter wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: My least favorite of the series. You have seen the fifth, right?
Yes. Rocky V is really flawed, but it has its heart in the right place. Once the "flashback to everything to kill time" montage kicks in in Rocky IV, the film gets boring.
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:40 am |
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baumer72
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The Dark Shape wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: My least favorite of the series. You have seen the fifth, right? Yes. Rocky V is really flawed, but it has its heart in the right place. Once the "flashback to everything to kill time" montage kicks in in Rocky IV, the film gets boring.
Sorry you feel that way. I thought it was perfect from start to finish.
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Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
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GuybrushX McMurphy
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I've watched Rocky IV rather often, ever since my childhood and it never fails to entertain me. One of my favorite comedies.
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The Dark Shape
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I think it's an absurdly stupid film, but it's entertaining until Rocky goes to Russia. After that, it's crap.
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