The Official FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 thread
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Levy
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PARIS (Reuters) - Zinedine Zidane said on Wednesday that Italian defender Marco Materazzi insulted his mother and his sister during the World Cup final against Italy.
The French captain reacted to the insult by head-butting Materazzi's chest in the second period of extra time of the match. He was sent off.
"He (Materazzi) pronounced very tough words about my mother and my sister. I tried not to listen to him but he kept repeating them," Zidane told in a live interview on French television channel Canal Plus.
Playing the last game of his career, Zinedine was shown a red card, leaving his team mates finish the match without him. France lost on penalties.
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He also said that he is sorry, but he has no regrets about the head butt
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Amer
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Levy wrote: CptJackSparrow wrote: haha they will be old...Argentina has messi and tevez...they win erm...most of our player are 25 and younger. five of them could even play in the under 21 team I thought Ballack, and Klose and such were around 25-26....My fault...Either way...Argentina will win...
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Bodrul
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Matarrazzi is a twat. Its a shame that the shit can get away with saying stuff like that, and ve able to call himself a professional. I think i remember the same MAtarrazi doing the same thing to Shevchenko a few years ago . . .
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Matarrazzi is pretty smart though, his counter was that he wouldnt say things like that because he lost his mother years ago and still gets chocked up talking about it and that he admires Zidane.
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Box
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Matarazzi and smart don't go together.
And Levy, no Klinsmann 
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Levy
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Box wrote: Matarazzi and smart don't go together. And Levy, no Klinsmann What do you think of the new coach? Is he any good? Will he help Germany win the 2010 Cup? Löw was the assistant coach, he did all the tactical and lineup decisions in this World Cup. Klinsmann was his shield to the outside. If he can work without such a shield, I feel confident in him getting the job done on his own
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:03 am |
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Box
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So, in other words
74-54+1990 does equal 2010!  _________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Bodrul
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Levy wrote: Box wrote: Matarazzi and smart don't go together. And Levy, no Klinsmann What do you think of the new coach? Is he any good? Will he help Germany win the 2010 Cup? Löw was the assistant coach, he did all the tactical and lineup decisions in this World Cup. Klinsmann was his shield to the outside. If he can work without such a shield, I feel confident in him getting the job done on his own Klinsmann is coming back to Spurs!  _________________
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:02 am |
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Some rumours say that clubs connected with Italian cheating scandal will receive following punishment:
Juventus - Serie B
Milan - 9 points
Fiorentina/Lazio - 15 points
Awful if true. Official verdict tomorrow (friday) at 6pm CET.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:35 pm |
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Box
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Nebs, what do those points mean?
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:36 pm |
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Deduction to start a season.
All others with 0, they with -9, or -15.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Appaling, if that's true... Juventus should go to Ser. C
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Yeah, that's very light. Without demotion, Milan, Lazio, and Florentina can hold onto their players, and the point deductions are not big enough, at least for Milan and Lazio, to be in any trouble of domotion. Basically they all have an excellent chance of qualifying for the european plays next year, and that's just not right. In fact, without Juventus around, I could easily see Milan make up that 9 points and still challenge the Series A title.
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Juventus will be back in Serie A next year. In the meantime, Milan will win the Serie A title, since those 9 points won't really hurt them. It's just three games. Seeing as their main concurrent (Juventus) isn't around to challenge them, it will be even easier for them. Worst case scenario (from Milan's point of view), Inter grabs the title and Milan comes in 2nd. Wow, what a punishment. And, of course, in 2007/08, everything will be back to normal anyway, with both Juve and Milan fighting for the title, again, accompanied by Inter or maybe some surprising team.
But lets wait and see what international punishments the clubs get from the UEFA/FIFA. So far, these punishments only affect their national league, but both Juve and Milan will most likely be banned from the European contests (Champions League, UEFA Cup) for some time.
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Levy
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Another proof that Italy is corrupt through and through. That's a joke! I hope that teams who had to go down to Series B during the seasons in which Juve & Co. cheated will file civil action against them...
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:56 am |
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Levy
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Nebs wrote: Some rumours say that clubs connected with Italian cheating scandal will receive following punishment:
Juventus - Serie B
Milan - 9 points
Fiorentina/Lazio - 15 points
Awful if true. Official verdict tomorrow (friday) at 6pm CET. New rumors by Gazzetto dello Sport:
Juventus: Serie B plus 20 point deduction
Fiorentina/Lazio: Serie B plus 10 point deduction
Milan: loss of champions league plus 10 point deduction
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I remember reading there is a cut off date for the European competitions, and Milan/Juve have been trying to delay hearings until after this date so that they can atleast still play in Europe, has this date passed?
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Levy wrote: Nebs wrote: Some rumours say that clubs connected with Italian cheating scandal will receive following punishment:
Juventus - Serie B
Milan - 9 points
Fiorentina/Lazio - 15 points
Awful if true. Official verdict tomorrow (friday) at 6pm CET. New rumors by Gazzetto dello Sport: Juventus: Serie B plus 20 point deduction Fiorentina/Lazio: Serie B plus 10 point deduction Milan: loss of champions league plus 10 point deduction The first one is complete cop-out, but the second one is a decent punishment.
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:54 pm |
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 Latest news:
Juve serie b -30 pts
Milan serie a -15 pts (this season -44pts = no CL)
Lazio serie b -7 pts
Fiorentina serie b -12 pts
Copied from another forum, still not sure if they are exact penalties. Dunno how Milan was 'saved'.
Some confirmation:
Quote: Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal.
AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will lose 15 points and will be kicked out of the Champions League.
Juventus were also stripped of their last two titles and had 30 points deducted meaning that they are almost certain to stay down for two seasons.
Lazio were penalised seven points while Fiorentina suffered a 12 point penalty.
The clubs will have three days to appeal to the Federal Court.
The FIGC (Italian football's governing body) must hand Uefa the lists of teams that will be involved in European competitions by 25 July, with Juventus and AC Milan out of the Champions League and Lazio and Fiorentina thrown out of the Uefa Cup.
Those directly involved with the scandal were also penalised, with former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi suspended from all football for five years and Adriano Galliani, who was AC Milan vice-president, suspended for one year.
The tribunal in Rome investigated charges that the clubs, their management, football officials and referees tried to influence the outcome of matches by interfering with the appointment of officials.
In May, transcripts were published of telephone conversations between Moggi and Italian Football Association officials, discussing refereeing appointments in the 2004-05 season.
FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi also charged 26 individuals for sporting fraud and violating fairness and probity.
All four clubs implicated denied the accusations.
Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also number Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks. From BBC.com
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Gulli
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Nebs wrote: Latest news: Juve serie b -30 pts Milan serie a -15 pts (this season -44pts = no CL) Lazio serie b -7 pts Fiorentina serie b -12 pts Copied from another forum, still not sure if they are exact penalties. Dunno how Milan was 'saved'. Some confirmation: Quote: Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal.
AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will lose 15 points and will be kicked out of the Champions League.
Juventus were also stripped of their last two titles and had 30 points deducted meaning that they are almost certain to stay down for two seasons.
Lazio were penalised seven points while Fiorentina suffered a 12 point penalty.
The clubs will have three days to appeal to the Federal Court.
The FIGC (Italian football's governing body) must hand Uefa the lists of teams that will be involved in European competitions by 25 July, with Juventus and AC Milan out of the Champions League and Lazio and Fiorentina thrown out of the Uefa Cup.
Those directly involved with the scandal were also penalised, with former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi suspended from all football for five years and Adriano Galliani, who was AC Milan vice-president, suspended for one year.
The tribunal in Rome investigated charges that the clubs, their management, football officials and referees tried to influence the outcome of matches by interfering with the appointment of officials.
In May, transcripts were published of telephone conversations between Moggi and Italian Football Association officials, discussing refereeing appointments in the 2004-05 season.
FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi also charged 26 individuals for sporting fraud and violating fairness and probity.
All four clubs implicated denied the accusations.
Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also number Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks. From BBC.com A fair punishment all round I think. Milan were saved by dint of commiting pretty minor acts compared to the other offenders.
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:50 pm |
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Heh, you are much more forgiving than me...even though I kinda like Juve's punishment. -30 might actually mean they could go to Serie C as well. Don't know all the details, but if even just one match was tempered by Milan, would've love atleast move to Serie B as others.
Perfect scenario: All of them to Serie C2, with 30 points deduction, plus 10 years of no Euro cups. 
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Nebs wrote: Heh, you are much more forgiving than me...even though I kinda like Juve's punishment. -30 might actually mean they could go to Serie C as well. Don't know all the details, but if even just one match was tempered by Milan, would've love atleast move to Serie B as others. Perfect scenario: All of them to Serie C2, with 30 points deduction, plus 10 years of no Euro cups. That certainly would shake things up  .
Still they'll all recover eventually look at Marseille, plus at least we saw Burlesconi hasn't bought off everyone in Italy yet.
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Dr. Lecter
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Ahhhh, that's still to mild. Juventus should have gone to Serie C with 20 pts. deduction and Milan should be in Serie B as well.
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Seems reasonable to me if a bit mild, but with the points deduction, I doubt Juve will be back in Serie A the following year, and the other two will have a fight to get back. If this sticks, I can easily see a number of players bailing on Juve, in which case their fate is pretty much sealed. 2 years without hope of Europe may doom the other two for a while as well to a similar loss. So while on the face mild, it may be enough.
On a seperate but related subject, I see Bruce Arena has been let go. He did a good job rebuilding after France 98, but I can't say the departure unjustified. This is not imply that I think they necessarily should have finished higher in their group, but the Italy game was the only one they looked at all prepared for. Not enough heart or tactical smarts in the others. Thanks for a job well done but time to move on.
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xiayun
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Lazio and Milan got off a little mild. Lazio should have no problem getting back to Series A next year. Fair punishment for Juventus. 30 points deduction while having to fight with Lazio and Florentina means they will have a tough time getting back to Series A right away, and that will cause more players to think twice about sticking with the club.
With Klinsmann available, it's pretty much a no-brainer to let Arena go, even if it wasn't before. The US federation has to take a chance.
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