superman returns predictons
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Chippy
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WotW was WotW... not NEARLY as hyped.
Superman is Superman.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:32 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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excel wrote: most obvious statement ever...ummm....ok....seeing as war of the worldsa, with mixed wom at best, dropped 33%, i dont think its THAT obvious.
WOM doesn't travel that fast that it would affect the second day.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:37 am |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
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I just want it to be thursday so that Excel will stop hyping the freaking movie. I could imagine him having a Monster truck announcer's voice overhyping the freaking movie
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:01 am |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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I've come to the conclusion that this will either be much bigger than expected or much smaller than expected. Just as I guessed, the movie is being loved by the press "box office experts" who brilliantly predicted massive numbers for Kong. Sportsbook.com has its over/under line for Friday-to-Sunday at $89.5 million, which I think is really high. Still, I could see it really surprising and going over that, or being another BB or King Kong.
But unless it opens to at least $125-130 million, I have a feeling the media may try to spin it as a disappointment. Even if it hits $70 million (which I think is a damn good Fri-Sun figure), I'll be we'll get press reports about it being a "disappointment."
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:04 am |
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Eventine
Too Brilliant for Introductions
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Magnus wrote: And craziness won't stop until POTC2 friday numbers come in, as no one will give a shit once POTC2 breaks 45m on its OD.
We'll only give a shit about SR's 70% friday to friday drop. 
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:12 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Webslinger wrote: I've come to the conclusion that this will either be much bigger than expected or much smaller than expected. Just as I guessed, the movie is being loved by the press "box office experts" who brilliantly predicted massive numbers for Kong. Sportsbook.com has its over/under line for Friday-to-Sunday at $89.5 million, which I think is really high. Still, I could see it really surprising and going over that, or being another BB or King Kong.
But unless it opens to at least $125-130 million, I have a feeling the media may try to spin it as a disappointment. Even if it hits $70 million (which I think is a damn good Fri-Sun figure), I'll be we'll get press reports about it being a "disappointment."
Yeah, but would you blame them though for thinking that for as much as this movie cost?? 89.5 Million from Friday to Sunday does seem rather high.. I actually would put that more at a 5 day total than a 3 day total..
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:59 am |
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tina_als_girl
Cream of the Crop
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I saw the Duracell commercial several times today, and it still has the June 30 date on it....
Joy
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:20 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
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Guess that Duracell battery isnt so great, pos cant change the date
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:24 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Killuminati510 wrote: Guess that Duracell battery isnt so great, pos cant change the date
You sorry fuc*er..
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:12 am |
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FILMO
The Original
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Final prediction
5 Day: something over 100
Total: 265
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:30 am |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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Magnus wrote: Webslinger wrote: I've come to the conclusion that this will either be much bigger than expected or much smaller than expected. Just as I guessed, the movie is being loved by the press "box office experts" who brilliantly predicted massive numbers for Kong. Sportsbook.com has its over/under line for Friday-to-Sunday at $89.5 million, which I think is really high. Still, I could see it really surprising and going over that, or being another BB or King Kong.
But unless it opens to at least $125-130 million, I have a feeling the media may try to spin it as a disappointment. Even if it hits $70 million (which I think is a damn good Fri-Sun figure), I'll be we'll get press reports about it being a "disappointment." Nah, not at all. If it doesn't beat WOTW, yes maybe. But if it breaks 100m and getse a 65m+ 3-day OW, then all the reports will be positive.
Well, they did find a way to spin Cars into a relative disappointment, but I see your point.
Also, the madness on the boards is going to drive me insane. There are already users at BOM tearing each other's heads off over this debate. I mean, it's really bad and it's only going to get worse.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:00 pm |
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neo_wolf
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If it doesnt make 100mill+ in its first 5 days for me that would be a dissapintment.Im predicting 120-130mill 5 day.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:35 pm |
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neo_wolf
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In what other parts of the world will it be opening next week?
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:40 pm |
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Jonathan
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neo_wolf wrote: In what other parts of the world will it be opening next week?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/releaseinfo
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:24 pm |
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Jonathan
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Good news for you Superfans:
Quote: But the biggest news I’ve got is that Superman Returns is gaining strength in all quadrants. (For weeks, Warner Bros. execs have been covered in flop sweat.) Remember I told you previously that Superman Returns was not tracking well enough to rival X-Men 3’s big box office opening? Since then, wanna-see has picked up considerably among men of all ages. Still, the Wednesday (June 28th) opening makes its Fourth of July holiday weekend total tough to call. Spiderman 2 opened on the Wednesday before July 4th and did $40 mil that first day and went on to make $88 mil Friday-Saturday-Sunday for a cume of $192 mil Wednesday-through-Tuesday. The experts tell me that’s probably an unreachable goal for Superman Returns, but the movie should haul in about 2/3 of that. Spiderman 2 ended up taking in $370 mil, so Superman Returns has to do at least $250 mil to avoid humiliation. (Especially considering the film’s production budget was at least $210 mil, though insiders tell me it’s probably sped past $250 mil by now.) The other movie opening that weekend, Fox’s The Devil Wears Prada (June 30th) is tracking well with older females.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/l ... -strength/
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:35 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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I'll admit, they have been doing a fantastic job with the tv spots.
The movie will die amazingly quickly though. I'll stay with 100 mil 5-day and less than 200 total.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:54 pm |
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Excel
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LOL
its 5 day wont even get a 2 multiplier?
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:05 pm |
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Shack
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Correct!
X3 got a less than 2 multiplier from it's 4-day, and that was in May, and that was without a huge opener like Pirates 2 taking it out on it's second weekend. Granted Memorial Day helped, but still.
Superman is a superhero movie, opening on a holiday weekend, in the mother of all frontloaded summers, with the biggest opener of all time in it's 2nd weekend. Also, I predict the WOM won't be so hot, thanks to the emotional angle over the action. It's going to die.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:12 pm |
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Shack
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Err, scratch what I said about the May release by the way. That's pretty ... irrelevant.
The point remains the same though.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:35 pm |
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Excel
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x3 was a sequel though, so we knewd itd be more frontloaded. superman isnt.
x3 hadlirttle appeal to kids, while supermans MAIN appeal is to kids. granted kif=d flicks havent the best legs; itll easily get a 2 multiplier for its 5 day. batman got a 2.8 for christ sake. and shack, look at the pattern.
'it wont be well recieved for emotion over action"....
well, lets look at how the movies with emotion over action did, shall we?
-batman begins: 205 million-lots of emotion, is now considered by many one of the greatest movies of all time.
spiderman 2-373 million-again lots of emotion, considered by many as the greatest sequel ever made
the hulk-132 million-advertised as an action movie but itwasnt the case at all.
x2-215million -big blend of plot/drama with excting action.
spiderman-400 million-receieved mega hype from its sweet tv spots and surprised everybody by how emotional it was, and had incredible legs because of it.
here action over emotion
x3-220 million-legs and receptionwere aweful for th emost.
fantastic four-150 milion-did anybody like this?
emotion over action is what gets superhero movies their amazing responses from audiences, unless you hul and have litrally no action for 90 minutes,which we know superman does have action, its got the much hyped plane sequence 40 minutes into the movie.
so shack your point that emotion over action will make it drop like a stone contradicts itself, because as you can see, eomtion over action is what makes superhero movies gets the legs theyve gotten i.e. spiderman,batman, and spiderman 2. the "action over emotion" angle you seem to think it should have is what makes superhero movies drop hard i.e. x3 and ff.
yes x2 was emotion over action and that droped hard, but that was a sequel. the best xmen comparison you could find would be x1, not x3.
Last edited by Excel on Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:42 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Superman Returns isn't Batman Begins.
These days, no comic book films can easily replicate Batman Begins' legs.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:47 pm |
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Excel
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Ya i know that...batman waslike pirates of the carribean, where a lot of its positive buzz from that it wasnt just a great film, but it was waaaaaaaaaaaaay better then anybody expected. But i think itll get around what spidserman 2 got, which was a 2.5.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:49 pm |
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Excel
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be sure to tune into mtv tonight at 7 oclock to see
BACK IN BLUE : THE MAKING OF SUPERMAN RETURNS
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:55 pm |
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Shack
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excel wrote: batman begins: 205 million-lots of emotion, is now considered by many one of the greatest movies of all time. excel wrote: Ya i know that...batman waslike pirates of the carribean, where a lot of its positive buzz from that it wasnt just a great film, but it was waaaaaaaaaaaaay better then anybody expected.
In the span of one minute, I can't believe you just said that. Jesus excel, you've outdone yourself!
As for your full reply, I don't think you understand the difference. All of the movies you listed had their main focus on the villianous plot and the action. Superman Returns is all Lois and Clark, Singer himself called it the first superhero chick flick. I could be wrong, but with the misleading marketing, I doubt people will come out uber praising anywhere close like they did for BB. It has 2 action scenes, according to Poland.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:55 pm |
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Shack
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If it has similar WOM to WOTW which got a 2.34, how can you say Supes will still manage a 2.2? 2006's increased frontloadness is almost enough to bring in that small drop-off from it, then you throw in the fact that it's a superhero movie, and Pirates 2, and it's game over for Superman.
If it get great WOM, yes it can reach decent levels. But with a so-so reaction, no.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:04 pm |
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