2005 Major League Baseball Discussion
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BacktotheFuture
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Flava'd‡ wrote: Chacon is really quite amazing. What a pick up for the Yankees. I think they should use him as their #2 starter in the playoffs (which I hope we don't play them in the ALDS).
I'm all for facing the Red Sox or the Angels, but the Yankees scare me. Johnson, Chacon, Small, and Moose are a hell of a rotation to go with that offense. If we play the Yanks if the ALCS then we have a chance. The first round experience with be enough to make us equals to the Yankees, but in the ALDS, it's gonna be very tough.
I now have a down with the White Sox attitude. I'd rather Boston in there. Doubt it's going to happen though. Chicago gets 4 games against Detroit. If Detroit actually tries, they might win one.
Gonna come down to the last series, should be exciting. I'm buying playoff tickets tomorrow. Would suck if I had to return them.
Good post. Cleveland and Boston are the only teams I'm scared of going into the playoffs. Cleveland because of Millwood, Lee, CC plus offense, and Boston because when rivals face each other anything can happen.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:20 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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It's almost as if it was scripted, since the Yankees and Red Sox play eachother the final 3 games, and so do the Indians and White Sox. The Indians should be able to clinch something based on their schedule, but I want the division now. The White Sox don't get a day off. They've got two more with the Twins (who better start hitting), and then 4 with Detroit before they come into Cleveland for the final series, so Cleveland's fate as far as winning the division is entirely going to be in their own hands.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:04 pm |
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Rev
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if Boston chock and miss the playoff  i'm gonna kill a yankee.
those the only team i care enough to follow........since my rangers suk balls.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:13 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
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The average GPA for the 5 cleveland starters is 4.043. That's fucking beautiful. You expect your #2 and #3 pitchers to have that kind of number, not your whole team. And, watch out for Elarton. He's inconsistent, but when he's good, he's very good. Judging by his last eight games...he's given up 4 or more runs three times (4 runs once, 7 runs the other two times) and he's given up 2 or less the other five times (none twice, one run twice, two runs once).
I frankly think Cleveland's the best AL team right now. Best Pitching in the AL (an ERA .79 better than New York, 1.12 better than Boston, and .04 better than the Sox) and the fourth best hitting in the AL (behind Boston, New York, and Tampa, but not by much...then again, that also factors in April, in which we hit like .230 or something).
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:41 pm |
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torrino
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Also, Cleveland fans, remember:
If Cleveland goes 4-4 in their final eight, Boston has to go 7-2 to win it, 6-3 to tie it.
If the impossible happens, and Cleveland, New York, and Boston finish with the same exact record (assuming Chicago and LAA win their divisions), wouldn't Cleveland win the wild card since New York and Boston would have to play another game to decide the division and the loser of that game automatically has a worse record than Cleveland?
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:47 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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torrino wrote: Also, Cleveland fans, remember:
If Cleveland goes 4-4 in their final eight, Boston has to go 7-2 to win it, 6-3 to tie it.
If the impossible happens, and Cleveland, New York, and Boston finish with the same exact record (assuming Chicago and LAA win their divisions), wouldn't Cleveland win the wild card since New York and Boston would have to play another game to decide the division and the loser of that game automatically has a worse record than Cleveland? No, if we are all tied then Boston/NY play for the division, then the loser plays us for wildcard. If Boston wins that game then the Yanks play us in Jacobs Field, but if NY wins then we play Boston in Fenway.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:54 pm |
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Rev
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Flava'd‡ wrote: torrino wrote: Also, Cleveland fans, remember:
If Cleveland goes 4-4 in their final eight, Boston has to go 7-2 to win it, 6-3 to tie it.
If the impossible happens, and Cleveland, New York, and Boston finish with the same exact record (assuming Chicago and LAA win their divisions), wouldn't Cleveland win the wild card since New York and Boston would have to play another game to decide the division and the loser of that game automatically has a worse record than Cleveland? No, if we are all tied then Boston/NY play for the division, then the loser plays us for wildcard. If Boston wins that game then the Yanks play us in Jacobs Field, but if NY wins then we play Boston in Fenway.
I'll shit my pants if that happens.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:00 pm |
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Rev
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w00 h00!  Yankees LOST!
Toronto 7
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NY Yankees 4
LET'S GO BOSTON!  beat Baltimore.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:38 pm |
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Maverikk
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revolutions wrote: w00 h00!  Yankees LOST! Toronto 7 @ NY Yankees 4 LET'S GO BOSTON!  beat Baltimore.
Boooo...
Go Yankees!
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:47 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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damn, Yankees lost. Im starting to look forward to a NY/Indians ALCS. If Yankees don't win the division then that's not gonna happen. With a 4 series against the Tigers, The White Sox are all but guranteed to make the playoffs. Even if they lose the next two to the Twins and the Indians win, they'll still lead in the Wildcard. So I'm pulling for Boston to not make it right now. I'd rather Chicago get shut out, but unless the Tigers show some life they haven't had all month, not gonna happen.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:15 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
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Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:43 pm |
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Terminator1997
George A. Romero
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tribe has a comfortable 8-1 lead and will move to 92-63, woooot!
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:36 pm |
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Terminator1997
George A. Romero
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make that 11-1 
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:49 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
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Tribe's magic number is down to 7 with 7 games left. Gotta finish the sweep of the Royals and then get 2 out of 3 in Tampa. That should make sure we can pass Chicago in the final series of the year.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:59 pm |
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Maverikk
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With 4 more games left against KC and Tampa Bay, Cleveland might only have to win those to clinch a playoff birth. Boston and New York are both 1 1/2 back, and they play eachother the last 3 games, so that helps Cleveland no matter what the outcome. One of those teams is going to lose 2-3 of those games.
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:00 pm |
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torrino
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jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins.
You know what? Fuck you. And your team.
I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways.
Hehe, jp.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:31 am |
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torrino
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I know the avatar looks retarded, but I gotta support my team. 
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:31 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins. You know what? Fuck you. And your team. I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways. Hehe, jp.
Yeah, sure you're just playing. You meant every word.
Also, like my new avatar? I figured I should probably drop Superman for the final run.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:39 pm |
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torrino
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jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins. You know what? Fuck you. And your team. I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways. Hehe, jp. Yeah, sure you're just playing. You meant every word. Also, like my new avatar? I figured I should probably drop Superman for the final run.
Heh, if I go to school in Boston (which could be a possibility - I'm applying to Brandeis and Boston U), I'm sure I'll become a Red Sox fan. It's like a disease.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:45 pm |
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Goldie
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Having not been in this thread before but it looks like an interesting last week for Boston / Yanks.
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Yanks right now have the easier team to play - the slumping Balt O over Boston's Toronto
but Boston has their last week at home while the Yanks are on the road.
That should be an interesting week.
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I know Clev is their also but haven't looked at their sch yet as I am talking the division race.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:46 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins. You know what? Fuck you. And your team. I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways. Hehe, jp. Yeah, sure you're just playing. You meant every word. Also, like my new avatar? I figured I should probably drop Superman for the final run. Heh, if I go to school in Boston (which could be a possibility - I'm applying to Brandeis and Boston U), I'm sure I'll become a Red Sox fan. It's like a disease.
Maybe, maybe not. It's not such a bad thing if you do become a Sox fan though. However, since you root for the Indians, I don't think it's going to happen.
If you were a Royals fan on the other hand.....................
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:53 pm |
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Goldie
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Checking todays Box Score both Yanks and Red Soxs are winning early.
Manny homers for Boston. End up with 5 runs in first inning after 2 were out. Nice. Looks like next week will be a fun week. Only update as going out the door.
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Anyway, looking at Boston's line-up - pretty impressive
[table][row]Boston Starter[col]Average[row] J. Damon cf[col]0.314[row] E. Renteria ss[col]0.273[row] D. Ortiz dh[col]0.297[row] M. Ramirez lf[col]0.295[row] T. Nixon rf[col]0.288[row] J. Varitek c[col]0.283[row] J. Olerud 1b[col]0.306[row] B. Mueller 3b[col]0.297[row] T. Graffanino 2b[col]0.310[/table]This table brought to you by Excel2BB Converter. Created by Krem for World of KJ
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:59 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
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Goldie wrote: Checking todays Box Score both Yanks and Red Soxs are winning early. Manny homers for Boston. End up with 5 runs in first inning after 2 were out. Nice. Looks like next week will be a fun week. Only update as going out the door. ************************** Anyway, looking at Boston's line-up - pretty impressive [table][row]Boston Starter[col]Average[row] J. Damon cf[col]0.314[row] E. Renteria ss[col]0.273[row] D. Ortiz dh[col]0.297[row] M. Ramirez lf[col]0.295[row] T. Nixon rf[col]0.288[row] J. Varitek c[col]0.283[row] J. Olerud 1b[col]0.306[row] B. Mueller 3b[col]0.297[row] T. Graffanino 2b[col]0.310[/table]This table brought to you by Excel2BB Converter. Created by Krem for World of KJ
Yeah but what about their pitching. 
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:09 pm |
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torrino
College Boy T
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jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins. You know what? Fuck you. And your team. I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways. Hehe, jp. Yeah, sure you're just playing. You meant every word. Also, like my new avatar? I figured I should probably drop Superman for the final run. Heh, if I go to school in Boston (which could be a possibility - I'm applying to Brandeis and Boston U), I'm sure I'll become a Red Sox fan. It's like a disease. Maybe, maybe not. It's not such a bad thing if you do become a Sox fan though. However, since you root for the Indians, I don't think it's going to happen. If you were a Royals fan on the other hand.....................
Yeah I would. Boston night-life in the Summer revolves around booze and the Red Sox.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:12 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
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torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: torrino wrote: jmart007 wrote: Camden Yards = Fenway Park II
Besides maybe Montreal, I have never seen so many Red Sox fans in one place, not even Tampa Bay. I would say it was maybe 70/30 in favor of the Sox fans.
As for the game, the Sox gave up a run in the 9th, but still held on to win. Now hopefully the Yankees can lose once again tomorrow and the Sox can sweep the series against the Orioles. It also would help if the Royals do something against the Indians. That might be asking too much though for a team with 52 wins. You know what? Fuck you. And your team. I hate Red Sox fans. Seriously - they're no better than Yankees fans except they have a little bit of a heart for teams that go through bad trends. Now, they're pretty much the equivalent of the Yankees. They've got as much money to spend on players, anyways. Hehe, jp. Yeah, sure you're just playing. You meant every word. Also, like my new avatar? I figured I should probably drop Superman for the final run. Heh, if I go to school in Boston (which could be a possibility - I'm applying to Brandeis and Boston U), I'm sure I'll become a Red Sox fan. It's like a disease. Maybe, maybe not. It's not such a bad thing if you do become a Sox fan though. However, since you root for the Indians, I don't think it's going to happen. If you were a Royals fan on the other hand..................... Yeah I would. Boston night-life in the Summer revolves around booze and the Red Sox.
Yeah, you're probably right. 
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