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guti wrote:
i hope FIFA disqyalify the us if the qualify, how can people who call football soccer play in a world cup.



no one here know shit about football exept maybe sauron a bit.


Wow, that's a dumb statement. You seem to have no idea how many international folks we have here and how much we care about World Cup, Championship League, and such.


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hans wrote:
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i hope FIFA disqyalify the us if the qualify, how can people who call football soccer play in a world cup.



no one here know shit about football exept maybe sauron a bit.


Why should they be disqualified? Well if they can qualify, they can obviously enter the competition. Talking of disqualification, the SPanish should be disqualified or atleast threated to be. Oh, and you dont seem to know much about football, guti.


spain disqualified???they have a better squad than england.

you know more about football than me!!!!!give me a break, i bet your best 5 players list includes wayne rooney :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:


ok you football experts whats your dream team, and who are the best 5 players ever

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guti wrote:
spain disqualified???they have a better squad than england.

you know more about football than me!!!!!give me a break, i bet your best 5 players list includes wayne rooney :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:


ok you football experts whats your dream team, and who are the best 5 players ever


I never said I know more about football than you. . . . . . so good for you.

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ok you football experts whats your dream team, and who are the best 5 players ever


Present/Recent times, I would say :
Gary Lineker
Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane
Paolo Maldini
Ronaldo/Cafu
. . . . . . . . the list goes on

Past :

Pele
Maradonna
Bobby Chrlton
Lothar Matthaus
Johan Cryuff
. .. . . . . . . the list goes on


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hahahahahaaha

no offence but those lists proved me right.

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hahahahahaaha

no offence but those lists proved me right.


None taken. Who would you choose?


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pele
maradona/garrincha/di stefano
koubala/puskas/beckenbauer/george best/eusebio
Cryuff/Sir Stanley mattius
Baggio/Zidane/Old Ronaldo/rivera


this is what came to my mind atm, i am sure i forgot some.


What do you think???

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Best 5 players of all time:

1. Rooney
2. Rooney
3. Rooney
4. Rooney
5. Rooney

Yes, he's that good.




hans, any reason why Spain should've been disqualified? Been out of football loop for some months.


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guti wrote:
pele
maradona/garrincha/di stefano
koubala/puskas/beckenbauer/george best/eusebio
Cryuff/Sir Stanley mattius
Baggio/Zidane/Old Ronaldo/rivera


this is what came to my mind atm, i am sure i forgot some.


What do you think???


Thats quite a lot more than 5, If you would like to lower it down to 5, i would be able to scrutinize your picks more, like you have to mine. But yes, they are good picks. Unfortunately I have seen very little actual football from the older generation of footballers : I have seen very, very little of eusebio, Sir Stanley, rivera, garrincha, di stefano, koubala, puskas. So I wouldn't place them on a list under assumptions. My top list would definately skew towards the 'newer' players. You have reminded me of some players : Klinnsman, Overmars, Gullit, Jimmy Greaves, Banks, Moore,

Also, i cant believe I forgot DENNIS BERGKAMP. One of the best players ever.


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Best 5 players of all time:

1. Rooney
2. Rooney
3. Rooney
4. Rooney
5. Rooney

Yes, he's that good.




hans, any reason why Spain should've been disqualified? Been out of football loop for some months.


LMAO

what did i tell you, if you cant remember
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rooney's potential is to reach shearer's level, not more.

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hans, any reason why Spain should've been disqualified? Been out of football loop for some months.


Not too big a reason, they're pretty damn racist and I figured this bum 'guti' was spanish


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You are cute guti. :)


Cheers hans.


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hans wrote:
guti wrote:
pele
maradona/garrincha/di stefano
koubala/puskas/beckenbauer/george best/eusebio
Cryuff/Sir Stanley mattius
Baggio/Zidane/Old Ronaldo/rivera


this is what came to my mind atm, i am sure i forgot some.


What do you think???


Thats quite a lot more than 5, If you would like to lower it down to 5, i would be able to scrutinize your picks more, like you have to mine. But yes, they are good picks. Unfortunately I have seen very little actual football from the older generation of footballers : I have seen very, very little of eusebio, Sir Stanley, rivera, garrincha, di stefano, koubala, puskas. So I wouldn't place them on a list under assumptions. My top list would definately skew towards the 'newer' players. You have reminded me of some players : Klinnsman, Overmars, Gullit, Jimmy Greaves, Banks, Moore,

Also, i cant believe I forgot DENNIS BERGKAMP. One of the best players ever.


eccentric taste i must say, bergkamp one of the best ever, better than rooney though.
Van Basten is better than bergkamp, many people are.


if you want the best players in the past 10 years then:

ronaldo/zidane/figo/raul/shearer/henry/sheva/baggio/ronaldinho/RVN/maldini/del pierro/vieri/klinsmann/ryan giggs/and the list goes on and on


best new talents are:(you say first)

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eccentric taste i must say, bergkamp one of the best ever, better than rooney though.
Van Basten is better than bergkamp, many people are.


if you want the best players in the past 10 years then:

ronaldo/zidane/figo/raul/shearer/henry/sheva/baggio/ronaldinho/RVN/maldini/del pierro/vieri/klinsmann/ryan giggs/and the list goes on and on


best new talents are:(you say first)


Including Bergkamp was more of personal thing, he's one of my favourite players, I've been watching the guy play for the last 10 years, and he is a class act. What is your obsession with rooney?

Honestly, I think Figo, Del Pierro and Vieri (RVN to an extent) are a bit overrated.

You list your best new new talent


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well if you dont know the british media has said he is the next pele, and he is though of as the best player now by some idiots(no offence).

del pierro over-rated!!!!, what are you going to say next the winner of the best player award figo is over-rated???

well my new talent list:

in no order:

Messi
c.ronaldo
zairi
diego
anderson
kerlon
juanfran
jurado
robbern
farfan
fabregas(sp??)
quaresma
fabiano
luiz gonzales
kompany

and so many others

P.S. i didnt "accidently" leave rooney out

what about you??

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del pierro over-rated!!!!, what are you going to say next the winner of the best player award figo is over-rated???


Its called an opinion son.

well my new talent list:

in no order:

Messi - The kid is what 15? I can't say much about this kid.

c.ronaldo - Is slowly fizzling out of tricks. His first season was superb but last season, h he was below par IMO. He needs to learn how to cross the ball effectively.

Have not heard of :zairi, diego, anderson, juanfran, jurado, quaresma, fabiano, luiz gonzales,
kompany.

kerlon - Possibly could do well, I heard he's beeing compared to the 3'r's

robbern - Yes, brilliant player. Top notch.
farfan - I dont know. I cant see him beeing a big name down the line.
fabregas - Lots of potential. Can't believe the kids only 17.

And about Rooney, He had a brilliant season with Man Utd. Scored some really awesome goals. He has become a hit and has a LOT of potential. Things can only get better. The world cup cant get here any sooner.

So I'm assuming you're spanish?


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no i am not spanish.

btw if the coach is racist that doesnt make the whole country racist's


messi is 18 and he is the next maradona.

c.ronaldo is better than rooney by miles.

farfan is amazing.

thats not an opinion, for example i cant say imo maradona is a right footed player. figo is one of the best players in the last decade, you cant say he is not.



Nebs i just read your post, thank you if you are straight or a girl, fuck off if your gay.

P.S. spain has a better squad than england, and i dont support spain.

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guti wrote:
no i am not spanish.

btw if the coach is racist that doesnt make the whole country racist's


Did you see the match against England a few months back? Have you seen any spanish league matches?


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actually i have seen every single one


btw who do you support(clubs)

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actually i have seen every single one


btw who do you support(clubs)


I watch mostly Premiership football; my team is Tottenham.(Spurs)


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tottenham, no offence but your team suck.

the premiership sucks too, not entertaining at all.

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tottenham, no offence but your team suck.


Sorry for not being a glory supporter. And who do you support?
Talking of Spurs, I reckon we're gonna have a great run next season. Up there with the big teams. We have a really impressive young squad, you cannot deny that.

IMO the premiership is the best league in the world. I'm sure many others agree. The only league rivalling it, is La Liga. As for the others, Bundesliga is boring, French league is boring, Dutch league is boring, and the Italian league is so dull.


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i support REAL MADRID the best club in the world.


yeah you will do better next season(hopefully).


la liga is the best league in the world and the most entertaining one, and has the best players in the world, then comes Serie A, then the EPL.

ROONEY SUCKS.


HALA MADRID.

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hans, any reason why Spain should've been disqualified? Been out of football loop for some months.


Not too big a reason, they're pretty damn racist and I figured this bum 'guti' was spanish


I´m sorry, but that is a pretty stupid generalization about spanish fans or spaniards in general... It´s like saying all english fans are hoolligans. In fact, there have been far more hooligan shameful "actions" in english stadiums than racist incidents in spanish ones.

And "guti", I am spanish, I support Real Madrid and like Guti as a player... we have a lot in common but even with that, in just a few posts you have made me intensely dislike you. Congrats!

And I am gay and think you are cute. Anything to say? Nebs is maybe too nice or polite to reply to you, but I had a bad day and I can be very brave and confrontational when my enemy is at least 1000 miles away from me. Wanna fight? :box:

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You show'em, dar!


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hans, any reason why Spain should've been disqualified? Been out of football loop for some months.


Not too big a reason, they're pretty damn racist and I figured this bum 'guti' was spanish


I´m sorry, but that is a pretty stupid generalization about spanish fans or spaniards in general... It´s like saying all english fans are hoolligans. In fact, there have been far more hooligan shameful "actions" in english stadiums than racist incidents in spanish ones.


That was the generalization I was referring to, all english fans seem to be labelled as "hooligans". I mean I think we were threatened with expulsion from the WC after euro 2002, because of the fans. But when Spanish fans monkey chant towards the coloured England players for 90 minutes, all they get is a £400 fine, shit I could bloody pay that myself. The problem is the Spanish FA don't do shit to the racist fans, at all. Not just that match, in league matches. R.Carlos and others have suffered from racial abuse from fans. I would like to challenge you on that
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But for the majority of population I guess it would be wrong. Also inform me of these : hooligan shameful "actions" in english stadiums.


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