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Tariff day seems like a bad idea to me. I guess can wait and see if it's short term and a way to force other sides into dropping them. The ones on Canada always seemed like a tactic to make them go along with his border demands and drop their own tariffs which were already there. But Carney has to use anti Trump fever to get elected Apr 28 first before making a deal.

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I need the inevitable public breakup between Trump and Musk to accelerate faster because I cannot deal with Elmo hacking his way into the government and ruining everyone's lives.

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It’s over.


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https://www.axios.com/2025/04/04/newsom ... -trade-war

I’m anticipating Gavin Newsom will try to secede California from the Union (maybe joined by Oregon and Washington; potentially other states) and aim to be the new country’s president, and most of the world will be on the side of the secession states. This civil war becomes World War 3.


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I want to make a list of ages of history; but I think that if “late antiquity” didn’t end with the pandemic and the events of the corona era, it’s ending now, or increasingly close to ending now.


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https://www.axios.com/2025/04/04/newsom-california-tariffs-trump-trade-war

I’m anticipating Gavin Newsom will try to secede California from the Union (maybe joined by Oregon and Washington; potentially other states) and aim to be the new country’s president, and most of the world will be on the side of the secession states. This civil war becomes World War 3.


This sounds like political fan fiction.


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I need the inevitable public breakup between Trump and Musk to accelerate faster because I cannot deal with Elmo hacking his way into the government and ruining everyone's lives.


This is completely disconnected nonsense. They know that’s what you want, but they each need the other for their own goals; they won’t prioritize your political interests.


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Also, even if Musk and Trump feel like an “Elmo” to me, I’d suggest that you’d be mistaken politically to say the same.


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Alex Y. wrote:
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/04/newsom-california-tariffs-trump-trade-war

I’m anticipating Gavin Newsom will try to secede California from the Union (maybe joined by Oregon and Washington; potentially other states) and aim to be the new country’s president, and most of the world will be on the side of the secession states. This civil war becomes World War 3.


He's been trying to pivot to moderate lately for 2028 election.

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Sununu confirms he is not running in 2026, seemingly taking Shaheen’s seat off the table.


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Well Trump really doesn't like illegal immigrants. Basically he understands that if he can get them to self deport, it's more powerful than doing it themselves. So the El Salvador stuff where he's probably going too far, scares the shit out of illegals and makes them want to run away to South America before ICE finds them.

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Trump will start sending American citizens there without due process

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Now US citizens are being asked to self deport

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The Democrats are in a death spiral where they're so obsessed with trying to win elections by scoring political points and persuading people with narratives, that the hollowness of it all turns people off and makes them even less popular.

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What are you talking about? How does deported US citizens sound it scary to you? I guess you have the luxury of being Canadian and being able to watch the shit show from afar

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They’re dying on the hill of an MS-13 guy to try to make Trump look as scary as possible.

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Lack of due process and ignoring courts should scare you. If he is this MS whatever guy then bring him to court. Prove it. That’s how a nation of laws works.

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Lack of due process and ignoring courts should scare you. If he is this MS whatever guy then bring him to court. Prove it. That’s how a nation of laws works.


He got it in 2019, if they sent him anywhere but El Salvador they’d have done everything right.

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The courts told him he was allowed to stay here though. What have you been reading?

Anyways the Supreme Court today told the the Trump Administration they have to stop removing people without due process.

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Lack of due process and ignoring courts should scare you. If he is this MS whatever guy then bring him to court. Prove it. That’s how a nation of laws works.


Thanks for removing all doubt about your complete stupidity (and the rest of your civilization and species).

Human (particularly Homo Sapien) legal courts have no rational or objective validity whatsoever. No truly rational, individual, agent, entity (truly advanced intelligence, civilization, or species; or advanced, rational, or logical consciousness or conscience would possibly respect them whatsoever. They have no possible outcome in which they ultimately benefit, are rewarded, or tolerated whatsoever. They are not only rationally insufficient, they fundamentally and definitively fail to deliver anything that could possibly be accurately considered to be true, rational, respectable, responsible, or accountable justice.


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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Lack of due process and ignoring courts should scare you. If he is this MS whatever guy then bring him to court. Prove it. That’s how a nation of laws works.


Thanks for removing all doubt about your complete stupidity (and the rest of your civilization and species).

Human (particularly Homo Sapien) legal courts have no rational or objective validity whatsoever. No truly rational, individual, agent, entity (truly advanced intelligence, civilization, or species; or advanced, rational, or logical consciousness or conscience would possibly respect them whatsoever. They have no possible outcome in which they ultimately benefit, are rewarded, or tolerated whatsoever. They are not only rationally insufficient, they fundamentally and definitively fail to deliver anything that could possibly be accurately considered to be true, rational, respectable, responsible, or accountable justice.


There’s nothing good about a “nation of laws”. Any such nation is definitively and fundamentally primitive, and absolutely not advanced. Only compliance with the “laws” of nature can suffice, and anything else is hopelessly, completely, and extremely immature by the standards of any advanced intelligence, consciousness, conscience, civilization, or species.


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The Democrats are in a death spiral where they're so obsessed with trying to win elections by scoring political points and persuading people with narratives, that the hollowness of it all turns people off and makes them even less popular.


This obviously isn’t just the case with Democrats, but your entire political system. But not only that, but your entire contextually and contemporary civilization. Your failure with your manipulative and irrational morality, politics, narratives, and emotional appeals, and your failure to take or accept responsibility for it, is ultimately harmful to your own contextually and contemporary civilization and interests.


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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Lack of due process and ignoring courts should scare you. If he is this MS whatever guy then bring him to court. Prove it. That’s how a nation of laws works.


Thanks for removing all doubt about your complete stupidity (and the rest of your civilization and species).

Human (particularly Homo Sapien) legal courts have no rational or objective validity whatsoever. No truly rational, individual, agent, entity (truly advanced intelligence, civilization, or species; or advanced, rational, or logical consciousness or conscience would possibly respect them whatsoever. They have no possible outcome in which they ultimately benefit, are rewarded, or tolerated whatsoever. They are not only rationally insufficient, they fundamentally and definitively fail to deliver anything that could possibly be accurately considered to be true, rational, respectable, responsible, or accountable justice.


There’s nothing good about a “nation of laws”. Any such nation is definitively and fundamentally primitive, and absolutely not advanced. Only compliance with the “laws” of nature can suffice, and anything else is hopelessly, completely, and extremely immature by the standards of any advanced intelligence, consciousness, conscience, civilization, or species.


Additionally, your legal system is complicit, directly, or indirectly with every problem.


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DP07 wrote:
Shack wrote:
The Democrats are in a death spiral where they're so obsessed with trying to win elections by scoring political points and persuading people with narratives, that the hollowness of it all turns people off and makes them even less popular.


This obviously isn’t just the case with Democrats, but your entire political system. But not only that, but your entire contextually and contemporary civilization. Your failure with your manipulative and irrational morality, politics, narratives, and emotional appeals, and your failure to take or accept responsibility for it, is ultimately harmful to your own contextually and contemporary civilization and interests.


It seems there are two kinds of people's relationship to politics, Brazil presumably is similar to the US hence the similarities between Bolsonaro and Trump arcs, but the reason there are Canadians that talk more about American politics is the former just doesn't have the emotional juice or Big Reality Show vibes in the same way, I think some Americans would be surprised at the difference. The energy for federal elections is more equivalent to most US governor or senate races in my opinion. Bureaucrat suit guys making predictable speeches doesn't have to be a replacement for blockbusters or tv shows. I don't doubt for some of these European countries it's similar where elections every few years are just kind of a dry process. But then again the reason for that may be that they are less divided than US where it seems like left and right wingers entire value system and worldview is different.

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