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 The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back 

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 The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back 
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Post Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
They may impeach him again, he won't get removed though any more than he did for the Ukraine call.

When listening to the full hour (and not just the selectively edited WaPo version designed to make it look as bad as possible), the phone call comes off as more of an interrogation of Raffensperger by Trump. The female lawyer was the good cop to his bad cop. He was giving Raffensperger one last chance to follow the law to save himself.

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Post Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Weird how Kamala Harris put off resigning her senate seat so late that she got sworn in for the next term :-k

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I highly doubt anything comes of this phone call because it is fairly obvious if you listen to the entire call that Trump believes the theories he reads on the internet. This is a clear cut case of a president being delusional. He clearly needs actual medical attention, and I am not trying to be funny or political. I am just saying we as human beings should see this and want this man to get the treatment he clearly needs. It is more shameful that it is obvious that people around him are using what is very obviously a mentally unstable man as some sort of golden calf as a political pawn. I think there were crimes here, but moreso committed by Mark Meadows than Trump.

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Post Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Are we still entertaining this debate after months of loosing the election and multiple failed lawsuits?


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DIB - DT believing the BS just means he could plead insanity. Not that a crime didn't happen.

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I highly doubt anything comes of this phone call because it is fairly obvious if you listen to the entire call that Trump believes the theories he reads on the internet. This is a clear cut case of a president being delusional. He clearly needs actual medical attention, and I am not trying to be funny or political. I am just saying we as human beings should see this and want this man to get the treatment he clearly needs. It is more shameful that it is obvious that people around him are using what is very obviously a mentally unstable man as some sort of golden calf as a political pawn. I think there were crimes here, but moreso committed by Mark Meadows than Trump.


This is true of Lin Wood, but not Trump

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I didn't watch his rally. Care too much for my ears. What did he reveal as the evidence of voter fraud that he said he'd do earlier today?

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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
I highly doubt anything comes of this phone call because it is fairly obvious if you listen to the entire call that Trump believes the theories he reads on the internet. This is a clear cut case of a president being delusional. He clearly needs actual medical attention, and I am not trying to be funny or political. I am just saying we as human beings should see this and want this man to get the treatment he clearly needs. It is more shameful that it is obvious that people around him are using what is very obviously a mentally unstable man as some sort of golden calf as a political pawn. I think there were crimes here, but moreso committed by Mark Meadows than Trump.
Yet there are millions of people willing to overthrow democracy itself to keep this mentally unstable man in power. How do we move past that? I know Joe Biden and excel are preaching 'forgive and forget', but that didn't exactly work in the 1920s and early 30s.


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Post Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Praying for both Perdue and Loeffler to win in Georgia tonight, but feeling like it will end up being Perdue and Warnock. God forbid it’s Warnock and Ossof. :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:


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If they were smart they wouldn't rig this one. Perdue and Loeffler winning would allow them to claim the general must have been fair, and it pays back the RINOs for going along with them.

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These runoffs are a nail biter!


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These runoffs are a nail biter!


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If they were smart they wouldn't rig this one. Perdue and Loeffler winning would allow them to claim the general must have been fair, and it pays back the RINOs for going along with them.


You pretend that it's officially proven that one party rigs these and the other doesn't.


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True. Do they do the mail-in ballots last like last time?

As much as I cannot stand McConnell, I have no problem with a GOP Senate. Checks and balances are very important in our country.

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With heavy blue DeKalb stuck at 42% (probably will count at 3 AM) pretty obvious where this is going

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With heavy blue DeKalb stuck at 42% (probably will count at 3 AM) pretty obvious where this is going


It’s majority in person votes, which should help that percentage be less blue.


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Oop and communism comes to America!


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With heavy blue DeKalb stuck at 42% (probably will count at 3 AM) pretty obvious where this is going


It’s majority in person votes, which should help that percentage be less blue.


They already proved in the general election if it's close they'll just keep finding mail in votes the rest of the week until Ossof is ahead with counties that called it a day at 10 PM on election night



The model is obvious, make the Republicans count their votes first. Get a mail in dump that's just enough to erase the lead, keep finding more votes for days if you need to.

On to Jan 6th

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Post Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? :funny:

You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too. :funny:

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At this point he is no longer "new" I'm new and I have all but caught up on the basics by now.


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:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
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Going to eat peaches and drink Coke all day tomorrow!

Also, so excited to have a hot Senator (Ossoff) who I can stare at for 6 years, whew.


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Stacey mother fuckin Abrams.

Well done. Ga going 3 for 3 to the Democrats to vanquish both Trump and McConnell will remembered for decades.

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Both GOPers declined from their Election Day win. It's probably impossible to not fault Trump for this, in fact it is basically the only explanation.

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With heavy blue DeKalb stuck at 42% (probably will count at 3 AM) pretty obvious where this is going


It’s majority in person votes, which should help that percentage be less blue.


They already proved in the general election if it's close they'll just keep finding mail in votes the rest of the week until Ossof is ahead with counties that called it a day at 10 PM on election night



The model is obvious, make the Republicans count their votes first. Get a mail in dump that's just enough to erase the lead, keep finding more votes for days if you need to.

On to Jan 6th




From the election official himself.

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