Agreed.

Kaine needs to drop the Trump paying no tax argument. I don't think it's a strong argument as it's easily argued that those were the rules set up by the establishment. Now if lied or stretched numbers on his taxes, that's a solid argument.

Yeah, on nearly every issue Kaine is mentioning Trump (and his taxes), while Pence keeps pivoting on most questions... So much for staying on topic.

This debate is quite the mess, very unorganized and chaotic.

Kaine sucks

Pence is doing a good job when you consider he's holding a far worse hand

I'm watching CNN's Live Undecided Viewers React feed, and very little has changed their reactions tonight. I think their reactions remained in the positive the longest when they were discussing their faith just a few minutes ago.

The only thing from this debate that has a chance to make an impact is what Trump says about it

Honestly the Vice President debate won't change anything. I can only think of one that may have mattered and that was 2008.

I didn't even know a Vice President Debate existed. I find the idea of it hilarious. Like two receptionists at competing companies having a slagging match. It means nothing, and nobody cares (well, nobody should care).

Pence did well on the style of the debate. Kaine was too frenetic at the beginning but certainly improved as it went on. But Pence basically ignored defending Trump throughout.

Kaine was debating for Hillary in 2016, Pence was debating for himself in 2020.

I would bet a reasonable amount of $ that Trump is furious Pence is getting good reviews and upstaged his own performance.

I could've put money on who I think would be the worst at debates of the 4 people who have debated so far... and I would've bet the house on Kaine. He just doesn't seem like a guy who can debate well. But he did fine enough. Pence won I guess, but mainly for himself. He really didn't help Trump at all.

This is one of Hillary's best ads so far. Tim Kaine was used as a semi-sacrificial lamb last night to be the attack dog and get good material out of Pence being completely unable to defend Trump, even if Pence is roundly thought to have "won" the debate stylistically speaking.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/stat ... 76/video/1

Clinton continues to trend up in 538's poll-only forecast, to over 76% chance now. Among the swing states, the ones that looked close for a while and ones that should worry her the most in term of winning the election - NM, PA, CO, NH - all have swung solidly back to her column, NC and NV are starting to feel safe again, and even OH, which would just be cherry on top, is basically 50-50 now. Haven't seen much recent polling from Iowa, but I'd expect to see her improve there too.

Hillary is definitely trending up, but the senates races are not. I think she has spent too much time attacking Trump instead of attacking the entire party that has nominated him. If she doesn't win the Senate (possible, given that there might be party splitting when Republicans vote), absolutely nothing will happen for 4 years since it is likely the Republicans win the senate back in 2018 (or keep it).

Hopefully today is the death blow. Trump said the the Central Park 5 are still guilty, and then his his most douchey and rapey footage ever came out https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ?tid=sm_tw

This looks (and is) so horrendous that Trump actually had to issue an apology. I have no respect whatsoever for any women who willingly vote for him.

Grab them by the pussy, yo.

Also, his "apology" was not an apology. It was a "I'm sorry if you were offended". Which is such a bullshit thing to say.

It should also be noted that he was married to Melania and she was pregnant at the time this video was filmed.

He is such a vile piece of shit.

The only thing he should be president of is President of the Assclowns

GOD he's such a slimy piece of shit.

I mean, I'm glad it has outed all the horrible fucking people in the US, but dear lord how did we get this far?

Seriously, what the fuck? This is about as low as it can go... I think.

I can't even imagine his surrogates defending this tonight... Are they going to say, "That was a private conversation, and should have never been released. The democrats continue to go off message, avoiding the issues that the average American cares about."?

That's the only spin I see, and it's pathetic. The Republican base really, really needs to abandon Trump and focus on 2020.

This really seems like it will go down as the moment that officially ended him. Today is my birthday and I could not have asked for a better present.

Grab them by the pussy y'all

Never mind the surrogates trying to spin this issue, it's just "guy talk" apparently. ^_^

Ryan just said Trump won't be attending the Republican event in Wisconsin tomorrow afterall, after the two were finally going to be on stage together.

But the thing is. It was guy talk. I mean mist of my friends talk like that about women when we are together, yes it is disgusting af and low class BUT ig is the eay men talk about women even in 2016. And gay men talk about other gay men just the same.

Heck I've used the grab them by rhe dick like irl at least twice when ralking about a hook up. So all of this is lol worth.

Yes I know it sucks and it is incredibly disgusting but i can net my ass that id u tape any circle of men talkin about women you will get much much worse ahit.

Trump might be a cunt irl but i am #teamtrump on this one