2010 Major League Baseball Discussion
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Grill
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Krem wrote: Grill wrote: And only Philly won going for best record while TB, Minn and Yanks lose.
Thankfully Philly doesn't have to participate in the race for the best record in baseball anymore - having clinched best record in NL, they guaranteed themselves home-field advantage throughout the playoffs and can focus on giving the starters some rest instead of winning games. Yes but would they want that choice to pick the longer series in 1 round I think, that the best record in baseball gets. It allows them to use only 3 pitchers in that series.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:27 pm |
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Krem
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Grill wrote: The Scottie wrote: Krem wrote: Phillies clinched in the rain. What I couldn't understand is why the Phillies were batting in the top half of every inning, when it was clearly a home game for them  Congrats to the Phillies for clinching another deserved Division. Doc is a shoo in for the Cy Young, would you say. He leads the NL in Strikeouts and innings pitched, and leads the majors in wins. I really hate all these award talk. As last year they screw up by giving it to Lincecum and Greike and not a Cardinal pitcher and CC. Now this year, first all the talk about F Hernandez. Well sorry but his W-L record kills it. He should have pitched more shut outs. Added to the fact, that there are good choices in the AL. Price and Lester are deserving. And even CC. First he won like 15 games when Petiette went down and carried the Yankees to the best record in baseball. And as a make up to last year, his 2 year stats are very good. And if anyone wants to talk about his ERA being a little higher. Then you have to look at the runs that are scored at each stadium and adjust for that. Now in the AL, if everyone is giving props to Felix H in the AL. Then why not J Johnson for FLA. He is having a better year than Felix. With 6 less losses. And also, even though Holladay would be a good choice. What about Wainwright and his numbers are very close to Holladay. And he is playing for a worst team. Plus like CC, you can look at his 2 years plus getting screwed. So in ending, I just don't think it should be clear that Halladay and Hernandez deserve the CYs without any discussion. I agree that the decision criteria are inconsistent, but you can't really fault Hernandez for not throwing more shutouts. The Mariners suck, but he's been lights out. The AL could use a little more debate, but the Cy Young in NL is pretty much a lock for Halladay - just look at how dominant his been, and the ERA differential between him and Johnson is minuscule (and non-existent between him and Wainwright) compared to the difference between Felix and Price and CC.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:33 pm |
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Krem
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Grill wrote: Krem wrote: Grill wrote: And only Philly won going for best record while TB, Minn and Yanks lose.
Thankfully Philly doesn't have to participate in the race for the best record in baseball anymore - having clinched best record in NL, they guaranteed themselves home-field advantage throughout the playoffs and can focus on giving the starters some rest instead of winning games. Yes but would they want that choice to pick the longer series in 1 round I think, that the best record in baseball gets. It allows them to use only 3 pitchers in that series. It looks like they already got this advantage: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... b&c_id=mlbQuote: NLDS A is an eight-day maximum best-of-five, with two days off built in, and NLDS B is a seven-day max. The privilege of choosing which of those two schedules is offered to the club with the best record in that league, and now that the Phillies have clinched that status, they are expected to choose NLDS A, giving Charlie Manuel an opportunity to pitch Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels and Roy Oswalt on normal rest throughout the series. The new 2010 rule states:
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:40 pm |
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Gril, I'm not going to comment on every little stupid wrong thing you post, I don't have all day. Lester and Bucholtz were of course amazing, much better than the "good years" you are saying and are at this point much better candidates for CY then Sabathia. Both are having record years in much tougher situations, though I don't think even they will win the CY. Youkilis is hurt, so I can't talk about what he would have done. We definitely were hurt without Youk's 100+RBIs he would have hit, Pedroia's fielding and over 20 homeruns he was on pace for. Or ellisbury's league leading steals. I can't talk about players that haven't finished. Martinez is playing great too and still a top 50 player despite missing almost 2 months. Now that is impressive.
I already pointed out the last game of the series which you clearly were wrong, saying the Sox had 1 run in the 9th, when they had 2. And it should have been 3. Even Rivera knew Lowrie's shot should have been a homerun without the wind. Then the Yanks score 1 in the bottom of the 9th as that wouldn't have changed (noone hit anything close to a homerun) meaning the Sox with 4 to 3 uncontested. Wind and Baseball Gods win, not the Yankees.
Looking forward to tonight. I think the Rays and Yanks will both finally clinch. I'd rather talk about actual baseball now Gril as the Yankees are uninteresting to talk about other than how badly they're playing right now
What's everyone's WS picks right now? I say Twins Phillies
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:08 pm |
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Grill
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Nice Gun that you are going to start talking baseball and not just unfairly talking about the Yankees neg and the Red Sox pos.
Anyway, blah blah blah Gun. So I guess the reason the Red Sox missed the playoffs this weather was the wind.
Can they protest that Gun? Lol!!!
And Krem guess you are right. I got it wrong from a sports writer.
But another stupid rule especially since MLB doesn't allow teams to play who they want in the All Star Game.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:24 pm |
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Grill wrote: Nice Gun that you are going to start talking baseball and not just unfairly talking about the Yankees neg and the Red Sox pos.
Anyway, blah blah blah Gun. So I guess the reason the Red Sox missed the playoffs this weather was the wind.
Can they protest that Gun? Lol!!!
And Krem guess you are right. I got it wrong from a sports writer.
But another stupid rule especially since MLB doesn't allow teams to play who they want in the All Star Game. Well they did have the Hurricane Katrina of Injuries in a season, so I'll say yes 
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:44 pm |
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Thegun wrote: Grill wrote: Nice Gun that you are going to start talking baseball and not just unfairly talking about the Yankees neg and the Red Sox pos.
Anyway, blah blah blah Gun. So I guess the reason the Red Sox missed the playoffs this weather was the wind.
Can they protest that Gun? Lol!!!
And Krem guess you are right. I got it wrong from a sports writer.
But another stupid rule especially since MLB doesn't allow teams to play who they want in the All Star Game. Well they did have the Hurricane Katrina of Injuries in a season, so I'll say yes  Blah blah blah. As the Red Sox 2X blew chances to make runs at the WildCard. In August, Red Sox only 4 behind in Wild Card Race. Then Paps blows 2 saves. Then Lackey, Beckett and Dice get bombed. Then can Lester man up like a number 1 pitcher should. Nope. He gives up 9 runs in 2 innings. A true Boston massacre. They Paps blows Sun games as the Red Sox could still make a WC run. Come on Gun, wouldn't you love you the Magic Number to still be at 3 with the upcoming Red Sox Yankee series. But those 7 losses were what ruined the Red Sox this year after they battled through injuries. But as the # 2 salaried team in baseball. They should have done that. And FYI you clueless idiot, I said above Lester was a CY candidate, before you mentioned it. And FYI, f off on bad mouthing CC. He carried the Yankees as Petiette went down fro half the season. Talk about a pitcher who had to throw more innings than needed to save his team. But you are just a clueless Yankee hater. And LOL that wasn't wind that night. It was Babe Ruth blowing a fart in the faces of all Red Sox players and fans. LOL. Red Sox Nation. No playoffs for you. As the Soup Nazi would say.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:19 pm |
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The Scottie
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Krem wrote: The Scottie wrote: Krem wrote: Phillies clinched in the rain. What I couldn't understand is why the Phillies were batting in the top half of every inning, when it was clearly a home game for them  Congrats to the Phillies for clinching another deserved Division. Doc is a shoo in for the Cy Young, would you say. He leads the NL in Strikeouts and innings pitched, and leads the majors in wins. Also, I knew you were being sarcastic, but the Phillies played in DC, but it felt like it cause there were more Phillie fans than Nats fans in there. And speaking of fans, did you know that Citizens Banks Park ranked number one in attendance this year (Yes, there was not an empty seat in the house all year). Heh, well it's not unusual for a lot of Phillies fans to be in DC for every game - it's a 2.5 hour ride down and the tickets are cheap. So even during May and June you will heard multiple "Let's go Phillies" chants there during the game. What was awesome about last night was that there were ONLY Phillies fans there. My first time at a Phillies game was in 2002 at the old Vet in late August. Phillies were going through one of their mediocre runs and nothing was really expected. The stadium was half full and the fans were more concerned with the E-A-G-L-E-S chants in anticipation of another NFC Championship run than rooting for the Phils. Now Citizens Bank park is a packed house every night and has been for the past 2-3 years, although the sellout streak only dates to mid-2009. Times have surely changed. As for Halladay, he pretty much clinched the Cy Young with another gem last night. Some other stats for Roy: he leads the NL in complete games with 9 (four more than Wainwright), 4 of which were shutouts (2 more than Wainwright) - and one of those was a perfect game of course. Roy is 3rd in the league in ERA (behind Johnson and Wainwright) but only by 0.14. His WHIP is 1.04 - 2nd only behind - wait for it - Roy Oswalt. After years of dismal starting pitching, it is amazing to have the best rotation here in Philly. Yep. Also, the same used to happen to the Angels. In the past, we barely hit 2 million a year, but after our WS win in 2002, people (especially Dodger fans) like to brag that this is when our fanbase began (cause we did over 3 million a year ever since and been in the top 5 every year). Impressive considering that we have to compete with the Dodgers, but this is where we have the advantage over other crosstown teams (Cub/White Sox, Mets/Yankees, etc). Unlike the other crosstown towns, which all have the same demo, the Angels and Dodgers have different demographics, with the Dodgers being mostly hispanic, and the Angels being mostly White (kinda a East Side/West Side thing going on here), which is why both of our franchises are too strong, in fact, LA is currently the biggest market in Baseball, in terms of attendance that is.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:28 pm |
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Grill
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Well isn't it also an Orange County LA/Valley split for the Dodgers and the Angels.
That gives them both a big area to draw from.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:41 pm |
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Grill wrote: Well isn't it also an Orange County LA/Valley split for the Dodgers and the Angels.
That gives them both a big area to draw from. Yes, and unlike most crosstown interleague teams, most of the fans hate each other.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:01 pm |
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Thegun wrote: Grill wrote: Nice Gun that you are going to start talking baseball and not just unfairly talking about the Yankees neg and the Red Sox pos.
Anyway, blah blah blah Gun. So I guess the reason the Red Sox missed the playoffs this weather was the wind.
Can they protest that Gun? Lol!!!
And Krem guess you are right. I got it wrong from a sports writer.
But another stupid rule especially since MLB doesn't allow teams to play who they want in the All Star Game. Well they did have the Hurricane Katrina of Injuries in a season, so I'll say yes  Maybe one day during the offseason, I will do breakdown for Gunny to see if he is right for all the whinning he has done compared to other teams. (As i never tire of proving Gun wrong.) Like I know Gun never considers other teams but just looking at the Dodgers - missing 300 + hitters like Manny, Furcal and Either and then captain Russel Martin..... and that is just off the top of my head.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:50 pm |
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Haven't done it once Grill, but who knows, maybe you'll get lucky. I on the other hand could write a top seller on your fictional fanboyism. But I won't as I would have to give you a royalty check.
I'm a fan of sports. And I don't dislike the Yankees. I dislike your opinion of the Yankees, and your necessity to insult anyone with a differing opinion. I'm not going to prove you wrong anymore (And I'd love to as your last post is ripe for more ownage). It's boring, neverending and pointless. It's a waste of my time and everyone else on here trying to talk about sports.
So I know it may be tough, but can you go a post without insulting me or trying egg another pointless debate. And please stop with the creepy stalking and following me into other threads. It's not healthy. PS. I'm not going to respond to anything you write about me. So on that note, good luck tonight.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:22 pm |
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LOL at Gun. Wrong but he is still claiming to be perfect. Yup that there tells the whole story. Plus his crazy act of God theory on how the Yankees won.
Anyway he has already been wrong on the White Sox. Wrong by about 15 games on that one Gun. And could be wrong about Yanks still taking division.
And next he will be wrong on the Yankees not winning more than 7 games, Yankees make the playoffs and don't choke. And I still say that the Yankees will take one more series.
And guess he is scared to hear how other teams were as injured as the Red Sox or more on CCs great season with all the innings he was made to pitch.
But he doesn't have to talk anymore as all his stupid and arrogant comments and predictions are in black and white. Just waiting to fall. Which also is fair as he has been calling me out all year whenever the Yankees lose.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:54 pm |
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Well Glad Gun isn't talking tonight as we can all celebrate the Yankees and Tampa getting into the playoffs. And sending the Red Sox off to the golf course.
PS Gun. Add some more losers to your list. Yankees make playoffs and don't choke, Yankees win their 8th game on your little chart
And CC wins his 21 and still is 2nd in innings in the AL. As CC has carried the Yankees to the playoffs.
Congrats Big Guy. 40 Wins over 2 Years. Lol at Gun bashing him.
And the Yanks get into the playoffs for the 15th time in 16 years. Now that is true greatness.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:57 pm |
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Watching the Red sox and thinking they were going to win.
Nope, Bard fuks it up and Boston loses. Dump the Bum???
Anyway, Boy I actually feel sorry for RSN as they have to lose on what was another historic Yankee night.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:35 pm |
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Chippy
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Historic?
And with all the trash you talk about the Red Sox, if someone came in here not knowing anything about baseball, they would think they were a sub .500 team! They're 3 wins from 90!
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:44 pm |
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Chipo DiCaprio wrote: Historic?
And with all the trash you talk about the Red Sox, if someone came in here not knowing anything about baseball, they would think they were a sub .500 team! They're 3 wins from 90! Yes Historic!!! As does anyone have more playoff appearances than the Yankees. No, so another playoff brings a new record for playoff appearances!!! See Historic!!! And don't get me started on the Red Sox. As twice they had a chance at the wild card but they fucked it up. Look Magic Number could be 2 right now if Paps and Bard didn't choke this week. Then it would be 1 if the Yankees win tomorrow. Then if the Red Sox win out all their games. Red sox go to the playoffs and Yankees go home. Understand Now!
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:26 am |
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Grill wrote: Thegun wrote: I have a feeling Yankees are gonna choke out of first and WC and CWS are gonna take it instead. LOL at Gun who is still showing that NY Hate. And Gun, so the Yanks are going to blow 10 game lead with like 22 to go to Chicago. Nope! And Gun, you do realize that Boston is closer to the WC than Chicago. Anyway, for the Yanks, the big question is how Petiette comes back from his injury. Well as Yankees are in, I know I defended this crazy talk from Gun as soon as he posted it. But I always knew there was a one in a trillion odds that it could come true. Anyway, onward towards the playoffs. Well I am still backing the Yankees to get to the World Series as I don't think any of the AL teams are dominant. For example, none are like the 2009 Yankees. And Krem, it is looking like Cincy may play the Phillies in the 1st Round. Unless Atlanta and Frisco messes up.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:23 am |
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Thegun wrote: The Yankees have to be kicking themselves now. Now they can't rest CC, as they'll want to clinch. CC, Pettitte, Hughes, and AJ, and Rivera all had terrible games in a row. Are you really not worried about the pitching Grill? Yankees are usually clutch but they are hurting bad, and will at least need 4 good starters for the playoffs this year.
Tigers 13-6 Rangers 12-8 Red Sox 11-8 Angels 11-8 Rays 10-11 White Sox 8-13 Yankees 7-14 Any more updates coming as I think the Yankees number is 8. You can't stop it in the middle. And I hear the Yankees will give CC some rest so the above isn't correct either. PS. Not worried about Yankee pitching. CC or Petitte or Hughes. And is everyone still picking Tampa and Minny and Texas over the Yanks? I know Arod will have something about that.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:59 pm |
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Chippy
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Grill wrote: Chipo DiCaprio wrote: Historic?
And with all the trash you talk about the Red Sox, if someone came in here not knowing anything about baseball, they would think they were a sub .500 team! They're 3 wins from 90! Yes Historic!!! As does anyone have more playoff appearances than the Yankees. No, so another playoff brings a new record for playoff appearances!!! See Historic!!! And don't get me started on the Red Sox. As twice they had a chance at the wild card but they fucked it up. Look Magic Number could be 2 right now if Paps and Bard didn't choke this week. Then it would be 1 if the Yankees win tomorrow. Then if the Red Sox win out all their games. Red sox go to the playoffs and Yankees go home. Understand Now! Yeah, and if the Red Sox won all 162 games and if the Yankees lost all 162 games, then the Red Sox would be in the playoffs. Understand Now!
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:36 pm |
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Grill
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Whatever post whore as I am talking about what has happened before with 5 games left (as it has happened before) and you are just being a jerk listing something that is impossible even if this was a new season.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:28 pm |
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Chippy
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And the Sox winning out was impossible.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:15 pm |
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Chipo DiCaprio wrote: And the Sox winning out was impossible. Wrong fool as playing the Yankees 6 of 9 games made it possible. And they only had to win 5 which many teams have done. PS. 5 RBIs for AROD to take the MLB RBI title. Nice as that is biggest/most important hitting stat in baseball. Driving in the runs.
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:35 pm |
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Chippy
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Yeah, winning 5 out of 6 vs. the Yankees wasn't impossible. 
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Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:40 pm |
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Yankees Losing Again.
Too Bad as we could still have the Red Sox and Gun having hope as the Red Sox wouldn't be eliminated yet.
And then it would be 3 big games in Boston to see who gets into the playoffs.
But Paps blew Sundays game and Babe Ruth farted down 2 Red Sox homers. (LOL. I think Gun blaming the wind on a loss is still the funniest thing ever.)
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