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Mr. R
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 Re: China Box Office (Avatar opening week: $42m)
Revatar wrote: Easy on the name calling, Mr.R  what the hells the matter with you! What's the matter with him? Whenever I say something about Russia, he's always up there with his anti-Russian sentiments, running around and shaking his little winky, and there's no reason and no logic there, no fucking explanation. It pisses me off. Fucking dissident. What's up, Lotan, you're missing the Lubyanka basements? Don't worry, you'll get there soon. Where's the guards? Take him out and shoot!
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the lesser evil
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Looks like someone missed out on their medication this morning. 
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Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:52 am |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:19 pm Posts: 2231
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the lesser evil wrote: Looks like someone missed out on their medication this morning.  If you write me, don't write me with you like stupid bullshit nicknames out of the Internet. Write me your real name and address, so that I could track you down and rip you apart. Good-buy. I don't take medication, BTW - I prescribe it to others. You just don't step on my tail, or I'll fucking bite you to death.
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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xiayun wrote: Well, they're now putting the words out that "Avatar is getting too hot and needs to be cooled down some." The coverage from nation-owned newspapers is also turning negative, focusing on the film's relatively weaker aspects like story and saying there is nothing for Chinese directors to be afraid or feel bad about.
So far about 60% of the gross has come from the 600 some 3D + 11 IMAX screens, while the 1,800 2D screens accounted for 40%. But cutting off those 2D screens means some smaller cities will no longer have access to the film, or at least it becomes difficult. 100m should still happen right. it should play strong until next thursday everywhere and then imax/3d should take it above 100m?
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Price
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Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Mr. R wrote: Write me your real name and address, so that I could track you down and rip you apart. Good-buy. Be careful, he really means it. 
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Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:40 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Corpse wrote: I have a question, xiayun. China only allows 20 foreign films to be released during the year, so are films that are released towards the end of the year at a disadvantage of being selected, or how does the process work exactly? I'm not familiar with the process either. The slate toward the end of the year does appear weaker in general, probably also because there is less blockbuster to choose from or you have to choose something from the summer, where the piracy is already rampant.
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xiayun
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Keyser Söze wrote: 100m should still happen right. it should play strong until next thursday everywhere and then imax/3d should take it above 100m? $100m is definitely happening. By my calculation, it should be around $95-97m by the time Confucius is released. As long as they allow the 3D showings to run their course, which is what the theater owners are saying right now (all the way to the end of Feb), I expect it to continue to do fine. Ice Age 3 got more than $20m while playing exclusively on 3D, and that's with half amount of the screens. IMAX is also contributing $1m a week and has sold out two to three weeks in advance. $120m is still happening, although probably not $150m now.
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Mesjarch
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Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 5:41 am Posts: 2388 Location: Poland
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Well maybe one day Chinese government will decide that it's time to free the movie market and allow more foreign movies.
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Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:09 pm |
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Mr. R
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Mesjarch wrote: Well maybe one day Chinese government will decide that it's time to free the movie market and allow more foreign movies. Sure, yeah. And then release the political system and open windows for the western democracy, so that all the western bastards will be finally happy. One idiot once did just that and destroyed the Great Empire. Hell, no, never! Cause they know it's gonna be the beginning of the end. That's how you lose control over the people's lives. First you lose primary influence on the culture, then on economy, then on politics. And then your country is gone, because no one in the West doesn't give a shit about your survival. All they want is more money. And the only way to suck up more money is to make your partner/enemy weak and dictate your own rules. Our Chinese friends are way smarter than that. You all are gonna speak Mandarin fluently sooner than they do that.
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xiayun
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BJ
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Jack Sparrow
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xiayun really good article. Just wanted to know the China markets more, would it be possible that people may see through what is happening(reducing screens for bigger local release) and start going heavily to the already limited access of Avatar theaters?
Also is there a possibility that if Confucius is a total bummer Avatar might get some of its screens back?
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
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soagg wrote: xiayun really good article. Just wanted to know the China markets more, would it be possible that people may see through what is happening(reducing screens for bigger local release) and start going heavily to the already limited access of Avatar theaters?
Also is there a possibility that if Confucius is a total bummer Avatar might get some of its screens back? xiayun can go into more detail, but like Japan, China doesn't have the screens available where losing so many screens wouldn't hurt a films box office. And since both are similar in that the bulk of their screens are in the cities, when a film does lose screens, it makes it very difficult (if not impossible) for people in smaller cities to have access to the film any longer. Both countries are also sharing the 60-40 (3D vs 2D), so losing where 40% of your earnings are coming from, the smaller cities who will no longer have access to the film, is going to hit the film pretty hard. So it's not really a matter of people "seeing through" what's happening and going to see Avatar anyway, the problem is that most of that 40% won't be able to. I read an article just the other day, and I spent the past half hour looking for it again with no luck, but both Japan and China had the fewest screens for however many million people than any other countries in the world (among the bigger markets anyway).
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xiayun
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Yeah, the lack of access will be the biggest issue. The phenomenon already creates the so-called Avatar-taxi business, where people are going cross-cities just to see the film. The business will become bigger with this news.
The news is also creating a serious backlash against Confucius among Avatar fans, and some are boycotting seeing the film in theater just because of it even though they were interested before. People are already tired of the market being arbitrarily emptied to create an artificial number like it was the case for The Founding of a Republic, a very mediocre film itself.
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Jack Sparrow
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Avatar-taxi business  that is what I was talking about. Although boycotting was not it my picture. Though it is good to know that there are less ignorant people 
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Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:10 pm |
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xiayun
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Also sina, the leading internet portal in China, confirmed all 2D screens will no longer show Avatar starting on 22nd. It's good to have the news public instead of being discussed as a rumor in the online forums. Now the general public has the information, we'll see how it will affect this week's 2D business. Certainly wouldn't be surprised to see an increase from Mon to Thursday.
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Box
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I have an idea for a film, and I guarantee it will be the biggest in China's history, so listen up Chinese authorities:
Confucius travels on a doomed (space)ship to a planet full of blue people enslaved by the evil A.M.E.R.I.C.A. Co., and he saves them! And he falls in love!!! With a hot girl!!!
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Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:15 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:17 pm |
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Mesjarch
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James Cameron "Confucius" in 3D would make $1.8B just in China. But I think that Avatar will make fall 40% next weekend. BTW is there any statistic about how many new cinemas being opened every year?
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Corpse
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xia has mentioned most of the below, but here is Variety's article about it. Quote: BEIJING -- The 2D version of "Avatar" is being pulled from more than 1,600 screens in China to make way for "Confucius," a patriotic, state-backed biopic of the philosopher, starring Hong Kong's Chow Yun-fat, which will bow Thursday. This is standard practice in China, where the government will clear the screens of foreign fare in the run-up to major holidays -- in this case, Chinese New Year next month -- to help boost local movies. The James Cameron blockbuster will continue to screen in 3D on nearly 900 screens. "Avatar," distributed here by the China Film Group, opened on Jan. 4 after delays which denied it day-and-date release with the rest of the world. It took in nearly 550 million yuan ($80.6 million) in its first two weeks, making it the top grossing film ever in China. Some reports have said that the movie was being pulled because of its theme, which deals with natives being forced to move from their homes -- a big issue in China where land grabs by unscrupulous real estate developers, aided by corrupt officials, are a national scandal. Others see an analogy with the Tibetan independence movement, or the Uighur independence movement in Xinjiang, where the indigenous people complain their culture is being overwhelmed by Han Chinese culture steered from Beijing. However, both reasons seem unlikely as "Avatar" will continue to screen in 3D, which is proving the most popular format by far. On Monday, in one of Beijing's fast-growing multiplexes, there were lines to buy tickets for the 3D version of "Avatar" -- in English with subtitles to boot -- but none for the two regular cinemas showing the pic. The Beijing Youth Daily quoted UME Intl. Cineplex assistant manager Liu Hui confirming the pullout while adding that it wouldn't affect the cinema's revenues. "In UME, the 3D and Imax version make up 90% of our box-office income, so it won't affect the majority of viewers," she said. By the end of last year, China had more than 4,700 screens, including nearly 800 3D screens, 1,800 digital screens and 22 Imax screens. Chinese B.O. topped $880 million last year, a rise of over 40% on the previous year, and a record 450 films were made and screened on the Chinese mainland. http://www.variety.com/article/VR111801 ... id=19&cs=1
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xiayun
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Last week's numbers: 1. Avatar(阿凡达)- 235m ($34.42m), -18.1%, 66,431, 4,912,207, 524m ($76.76m) 2. The Spy Next Door(邻家特工)- 16.5m ($2.42m), New, 12,580, 524,142, 16.5m ($2.42m) 3. Bodyguards and Assassins(十月围城)- 6.5m ($0.95m), -33.7%, 10,389, 201,300, 290m ($42.48m) 4. A Simple Noodle Story(三枪拍案惊奇)- 1.2m ($0.18m), -61.3%, 3,057, 40,664, 260.6m ($38.17m) 5. Detective Conan(名侦探柯南)- 0.95m ($0.14m), New, 768, 24,041, 0.95m ($0.14m)
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Lol at the #1 movie making over 12 times the #2 movie. Crazy!
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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xia, any trends for this week. someone from china at bom mentioned increased 3d showings which could lead to overall increase from last weekend. is that even a remote possibility?
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xiayun
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xiayun
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Keyser Söze wrote: xia, any trends for this week. someone from china at bom mentioned increased 3d showings which could lead to overall increase from last weekend. is that even a remote possibility? I'm keeping an eye on it, but haven't seen any daily number yet for this week.
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