As more and more states start following suit, Carrie Prejean and her ilk can suck it.

Waiting on you New Hampshire and Rhode Island.

What's hilarious is that she considers the people who don't like her actively trying to take away the rights of gays to be the "intolerant" ones.

They're out to destroy her for no other reason than their hatred of her Christianity, and not at all because she thinks they should be treated as second class citizens under the law and aren't deserving of equal rights or protections.

While I am very much in favor of Gay Rights and Marriage. Let me just say this..


I would let Carrie Prejean suck it anytime. I have absolutely no problem with that and in fact it would probably be something I would brag about later. Talk about chauvinism!

She looked a lot better before they turned her into a plastic pageant Barbie with a fake face and fake boobs.

I changed the name of the thread so we can include Maine and maybe New Hampshire and all the other states that will soon be joining.

5 down, 45 to go!

So, I guess Iowa and Vermont, from what I've hear and read, are pretty safe.

What about Maine? What's the process to overturn it? I hear it's as simple as California. True? And what the probably, you guys think, that they will overturn it? And keep CA in mind. The religious right is cut-throat. They did win the CA vote based on lies and manipulations.

There can be a public veto that will delay implementation until a state wide vote. Maine isn't like Southern New England or Vermont, but I'm hopeful they would vote to keep it.

So the only argument they have left is that "the majority of people vote against gay marriage when given the chance." What happens when that too fails? I hope Maine finally puts an end to that one ASAP.

UPDATE:

Sorry, not the only argument they have left apparently:

I don't think it's going to hurt my marriage -- but, I think it's going to change the definition of marriage for every person going forward and it's going to affect young people particularly. I don't understand how we're going to raise young men to be good family men in a culture where the government tells them that the idea that a child has a father as well as a mother is an example of hateful bigotry -- but, that's what gay marriage is about. That's saying if you see any difference between gay and straight, (you're bigoted). If you can't distinguish between these two things with regard to marriage, there is nowhere you can distinguish them. My own view is that same sex unions are not marriage. If the government passes a law that says ducks are chickens, it doesn't make it true....

--Maggie Gallagher, head of the National Organization for Marriage

And of course the Pat Robertson statement that gay marriage will lead to legalized child molestation.

The fact that people like Maggie Gallagher actually think the way they do and the fact that others believe and follow her arguments truly makes me lose faith in some faction of humanity.

Really? The only way to tell gays and straights is whether they are married or not? How can any sane person with at least a middle school education follow that logic?

I was watching her on CNN the other day when she was talking among others things about the case in some state that took away a Catholic adoption agencies funding or something because they rejected giving children with no parents to same-sex couples. Now, I can try to see how someone could twist that into some anti-gay rhetoric, but her reasoning had me in awe. ESSENTIALLY, she said "treating people equally is wrong." I was like, how is this person allowed airtime outside of a 20/20 special on mentally handicapped people in charge of hate organizations?

Do you know how long people thought that god exists?

Because of arguments like this:
1. God is something than which nothing greater can be thought.
2. God exists in the understanding.
3. It is greater to exist in reality and in the understanding than just in understanding.
4. Therefore, God exists in reality.

And NH quietly becomes state #6 officially. Governor signed it into law today.

... and then there were 44

I'm taking bets on Jersey being next. Poor Rhode Island.

RI has legalized prostitution.

It's a toss-up. It will be either NJ, NY or DC (if we go ahead and DC as a state). I believe NM is planning on possibly recognizing foreign marriages (same as NY currently does), and I'd expect WA may legalize it eventually (they currently recognize Domestic Partnerships, the statue bans marriage but there is no constitutional ban). Maryland is also a possibility soon.

Statute

For those people in Washington State:

The legislature here recently passed domestic partnership benefits legislation. There is currently a movement to get Referendum 71 on the November ballot to prevent the legislation from being enacted.

There is more information here: http://www.whosigned.org/ The site promises to provide the names of those who signed the petition to get Referendum 71 on the ballot and also has some grassroots ways to try and oppose the petition. These people signed without an expectation of privacy as the names on any signed petition are viewable by any who sign. This is not like those who donated money to prop 8 and were later revealed.

I urge those in the state to talk to their friends and family and urge them not to sign the petition. Let the current law stay as-is. It is better to kill this early than go through a protracted and costly battle in the fall for something that likely will not pass in this state and tries to block a just law.

I think it's holding out for two reasons; 1) A very heavy Catholic population, and 2) The state recognizes gay marriages from out of state and it's a very tiny state. So small, that at the end of the nineties, we regularly went out of state for Christmas shopping or seeing movies. Unless you're intent on marrying in your childhood home or in scenic Newport, you can work around the system with a drive that's considered worth two percentage points of sales tax. Obviously, it'll still be fought for, but it's probably not seen as a pragmatic battleground, unless claiming all of New England is that important a symbolic victory.

Does RI recognize foreign (gay) marriages? I thought only NY and (now) DC did that...?

I don't think the Catholic population is a big factor. CT is about as Catholic, and I'd imagine Mass. is too.

I went to catholic school in South Jersey in the early 90's I can tell you that when i went there there was signs of movement away from what we call fundementalist christanity. there are still alrge number of charismatic catholics who espouse a very dark age view of christianity but there are far more of the easter weekend catholics then either of those two.

I think he meant RI. New Jersey still has it's...places.