24: Season 8 Thread - Rank the seasons!
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Dr. Lecter
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 24: Season 8 Thread - Rank the seasons!
Never too early to start the discussion and speculation on the new one.
Okay, some of you might have a different opinion, but I'd call S7 rather disappointing. Now overall, it was a tad better than the 6th season, but still worse than S1-S5, in my opinion. The finale, in particular, was quite a let-down.
What do we know so far of S8?
- Set in New York City
- CTU is apparently back
- Janeane Garofalo is not returning
- Chris Diamantopoulos plays the new Chief of Staff
- Apart from Jack Bauer, the characters of Aaron, Kim, Chloe, Renee and President Taylor are the ones confirmed to return
- The rough plot description reads: " Day 8's action will switch from Washington D.C. to New York City and center on an assassination plot against a visiting foreign leader (Anil Kapoor)"
- It will be set about 6 weeks after the end of Season 7
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Sounds somewhat similar to the S1 plot...hopefully that's a good thing.
So what should they do, in your opinion, to make this work better than the past two seasons?
I'd say: give this a clean slate. Except for the folks coming back from S7....stop harking back to the previous seasons. They tried that with S6 and S7 and failed. Don't bring back Tony, no more talk of Logan or Michelle or whatever. That just gets hopes up which are left unfulfilled. Just try to give this a completely new and independent storyline, maybe a bit smaller scale this time (similar to S1).
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trixster
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Apparently Jack and Renee (or Rack Bauer as I prefer) will be a couple at the start of the season.
Since it's Kiefer's last contracted year, I expect they will either a) kill Jack or b) retire him into peaceful seclusion. They won't turn him into a villain; Tony proved pretty clearly that won't work.
I'm tentatively excited, only because I know I'll be watching regardless of how bad it gets.
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_axiom
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Season 7 was pretty OK up until the last six episodes which were awful.
And they should kill off Jack it 8th season proves to be the last one. The ending of the fourth season would be a perfect series finale as far as Jack is concerned. But they can't use that one again.
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Dr. Lecter
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They will not kill Jack, they clearly said that while it was the original intention, they still want to make some 24 movies for theatres once the series is done...and that means Jack lives.
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Mister Ecks
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I just gave a long-winded and entirely-too-boring response in the Season 7 thread on why I thought the season and the finale were good. But if I had to suggest one tiny issue, it's this:
-Make the villain just ONE villain. One big villain. No, not a few villains, just one. This year, there was Dubaku, then he died before he could make an impact. And we kind of knew he was leading in to General Juma, but then he fucking died right away. That lead to Jonas Hodges, who could've made for a great BIG villain... then they killed him! After that, there was no one lead villain. Maybe that's where the season hit a slump (although I still dug those last episodes), when they had no real villain, but I don't think a slew of villains all year helped much.
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Mister Ecks
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Magnus wrote: -Kill off everyone from last season outside of Chole, Jack, and Aaron -Bring Bill and Gedge back to life -As X said, one big villain only -No more connecting past to present -Kill Jack Bauer at the end I hear Gedge is coming back to life in... This whole "connecting everything together" thing feels very reminiscent of Prison Break. And where PB could pull it off, I don't think 24 can. If I were to complain a tiny bit more (damn you people, you've poisoned me), I think the whole "See this Wilson guy? Remember Logan? Remember Palmer and Michelle dying? THIS GUY WAS BEHIND IT ALL. OOOOOOOOO." didn't work that well. And I'm almost certain that's what the driving force behind Season 8 will be. And maybe it should, I don't know.
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Christian
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Anil! And hopefully Hiam Abbass (please cast her!!!)
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Tue May 26, 2009 11:01 am |
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Christian
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... d35130fd4dJennifer Westfeldt and John Boyd (recurring and regular, respectively) join the cast.
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Drop the conspiracy thing, the "Its bigger than me" idea got tired after awhile which put 24 into a bind by the end of this last otherwise great season.
They have to stop turning Jack into a villain for portions of the show, and making him sick was also a backdoor to less interesting characters taking center stage. Also now that there are some recurring stronger characters, don't waste them. Chloe and Bill disappeared mid season and the lack of good characters was noticable.
They in my got lost because of the writers strike. Once they rewrote a lot of the stuff you can tell they were loosing hope while the first 9 episodes were awesome. They need a focus end point from the beginning and they'll make it work.
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Mister Ecks
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I still maintain that overall, in the end, this was a good season for 24. I know I'm continuing to compare it to Season 6, but it's hard to ignore that they came off an atrocious season and rebounded, even somewhat.
I liked how they dissolved CTU, but in essence, the FBI became CTU.
I find it funny that most people want Tony to go away, after everyone clamored for him to come back. I think the writers did a good job there. To bring him back and just give him the same role as always (good guy) and not really add anything would've been lazy. They did their best to throw in a few twists here and there and it helped. I'm not saying it worked entirely, but I dug it.
I hope Kim returns next year, for a prominent role. I guess I'm in the minority, but I miss that dynamic between her and Jack.
The "this goes beyond me" thing was tiring, yes. I think the writers expected Jon Voight to be the big bad of the whole series, and something happened. Maybe he's the reason they had to rewrite the last episodes? Did he not want to continue the show in Season 8? His character did wuss out around those episodes. Then they had to scramble to come up with someone else, and this Alan Wilson character didn't cut it. But logically, they can only go with "the real big bad of the series" next season, if it is the last. It'll be odd if it's just a regular season with another terrorist plot.
I hope Olivia has some sort of role next year. She was consistently entertaining to watch too, even if her storyline was somewhat tired (omg, I wanted to kill this dude, but I called it off and he's dead anyway!!!).
With Samantha Who's cancellation, I hope we at least get an appearance from Jean Smart next year. No clue how that would factor in, but hopefully it would involve Greg Itzin! And maybe an awkward three-way scene (not in that way, you sick fucks) with Aaron?
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Thegun
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I agree, personally thought Season 7 overall was 24 quality, better 6 and maybe just as good as some of the lesser great seasons. I think if the finale wasn't so unsurprising people wouldn't be ragging on it so much. Like said due to the plots, you knew Jack was going to live, Kim was going to save her, Renee likes Jack, Tony was doing it for Michelle, and the new President puts her country first. They were all wrap ups that anyone could have guessed. But like said I thought it was still well acted other than Tony and they just played it safe. I'm stoked for next season.
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:57 am |
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Christian
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So I've pretty much turned this into a spoiler/casting/Season 8 anticipation thread. OMFG... Freddie Prinze Jr. joins as a regular: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... 4fbf47cef8
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Thu May 28, 2009 1:18 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Aside from the immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Oh god, Freddie Prinze Jr.?! Really, 24?", I don't mind it. 24 is pretty much known for unusual casting choices, aren't they? Ricky Schroder for one. Janeane Garofolo definitely an odd choice. Mary Lynn Rajskub was even an odd choice way back when. And they all worked in their own way.
I just hope Mr. Gellar doesn't kill 24.
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STEVE ROGERS
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viewtopic.php?f=8&t=50801I told you all how to save this show, but no one wanted to reply to the idea as though you all thought it was so far fetched.. I've gotta great imagination and this would've worked in sending him off whether it be dead or alive.. It would've been a Bold move to go this route
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Thu May 28, 2009 11:56 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Mister Ecks wrote: Aside from the immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Oh god, Freddie Prinze Jr.?! Really, 24?", I don't mind it. 24 is pretty much known for unusual casting choices, aren't they? Ricky Schroder for one. Janeane Garofolo definitely an odd choice. Mary Lynn Rajskub was even an odd choice way back when. And they all worked in their own way.
I just hope Mr. Gellar doesn't kill 24. Could any news actually make you think differently about 24's status, heh. I mean whatever happens, you keep defending it 
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Dr. Lecter
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Oh and I didn't think that S7 was all-out bad. It had some good episodes and even a couple of great ones. The White House siege was a great idea, IMO and executed rather well too. I liked most of Tony's role.
But the final few episodes just didn't really cut it. Think of the S1, S2, S4 and S5 finales...this doesn't really come close.
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Dr. Lecter
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BTW, I realized that the only season so far to have only one main (and known) baddie from start to finish was S4 with Marwan (I think he was shown for the first time around the 6th episode or so). In all other seasons, the baddies/threats changed during the season. Worst shift? S6, definitely. The final 7 episodes seem to have barely anything to do at all with the first 17. Most shifts? I suppose S7...
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Aside from the immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Oh god, Freddie Prinze Jr.?! Really, 24?", I don't mind it. 24 is pretty much known for unusual casting choices, aren't they? Ricky Schroder for one. Janeane Garofolo definitely an odd choice. Mary Lynn Rajskub was even an odd choice way back when. And they all worked in their own way.
I just hope Mr. Gellar doesn't kill 24. Could any news actually make you think differently about 24's status, heh. I mean whatever happens, you keep defending it  They could announce that Big Bird was the main villain and I would find a way to defend it.
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Dr. Lecter
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Mister Ecks wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Aside from the immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Oh god, Freddie Prinze Jr.?! Really, 24?", I don't mind it. 24 is pretty much known for unusual casting choices, aren't they? Ricky Schroder for one. Janeane Garofolo definitely an odd choice. Mary Lynn Rajskub was even an odd choice way back when. And they all worked in their own way.
I just hope Mr. Gellar doesn't kill 24. Could any news actually make you think differently about 24's status, heh. I mean whatever happens, you keep defending it  They could announce that Big Bird was the main villain and I would find a way to defend it.And what if it's Carrot Top?
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Mister Ecks
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Aside from the immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Oh god, Freddie Prinze Jr.?! Really, 24?", I don't mind it. 24 is pretty much known for unusual casting choices, aren't they? Ricky Schroder for one. Janeane Garofolo definitely an odd choice. Mary Lynn Rajskub was even an odd choice way back when. And they all worked in their own way.
I just hope Mr. Gellar doesn't kill 24. Could any news actually make you think differently about 24's status, heh. I mean whatever happens, you keep defending it  They could announce that Big Bird was the main villain and I would find a way to defend it.And what if it's Carrot Top? When he does stand-up comedy, he has all those props and such. There must be a bomb or two in there somewhere. And he's in good shape. A worthy adversary for Jack Bauer.
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He can't be worst than Milo
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Alex Y.
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How come Ethan Kanin's not returning as Chief of Staff?
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Johnny Dollar
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Bob Gunton is busy filming Shawshank Redemption 2: The Rapening.
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Jedi Master Carr
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Gutton could still come back, but maybe he will play another role in the administration. I don't mind the shifting villains, and I guess I am one of those people who still want connections to Nina's German company. Hey Mia Kirshner is now free to return as Mandy.
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Christian
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MAGNUS
I'm watching Mental (for some reason) and Gedge is a guest star in it playing a doctor. lol
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