Definitely the right thing to do.

I must agree with Curt Shilling that the other 103 names on the list should be revealed. In 2003 there were 600-700 players on the active MLB rosters. 104 were found dirty. That is a HUGE 15-17% of all baseball players that were using illegal performance-enhancing drugs. That is still mind-boggling.

That is correct if they tested 100%. Did they test 100%?

Woah. I assumed the tested 100%. If they tested less than 100% then it's even more mind-boggling.

I don't think they tested 100%

Anyone know the number of players that they did test?

And did they do a representative sample from all of the teams?

Bud Selig should better shut up. He made this problem by not banning steroids earlier. Also in every other sport there is a B sample that has to be tested positive as well before you can judge someone. I'm not sure that happened here.
Plus: If they had an agreement to keep the names shut he shouldn't lash out against players. Not defending A-Rod here, he's an idiot, but so are at least 50% of the players. Selig and his minions created this atmosphere, he should resign.







So we're talking between 7% and 20% positive samples

Selig and Stern are the WORST commissioners I've ever seen.

Stern isn't that bad

Selig's in his own level.

He runs the worst officiated league.

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Manny didnt test positive for roids...

The report is he took a woman's fertility drug called HGC that improves testosterone (if I just heard that correctly). That means one of two things. Either Manny was trying to get pregnant like Octo-Mom and have six or seven children, or he was taking the drug to rebuild his testosterone after being on steroids.

Speaking of this, have I mentioned how much I love Jason Bay?

The thing that seals it for me was Manny going to Miami to see this doctor. yeah.

Pujols is next. Unfortunately.

^Every major league player has a personal doctor.

Pujols and Howard need to be VERY careful. Longoria and Braun are becoming the next great sluggers anyways, hopefully their clean.



The report from ESPN was wrong; that said he tested positive for nothing but had high levels HGC ; MLB came out and said Manny failed the tests twice:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=y ... &type=lgns

The drug he tested positive for does 2 things (you heard one of them on espn). 1)helps women get pregnant, and 2)helps men get it up. The fact that Manny tested negative for all roids but positive for that stuff shows he wasnt using something to mask his tests results either. If he had had steroids in his system, he would have tested positive for them. But he didnt.

he was using it after a steroid cycle, don't kid yourself and be naive.

Bingo!

And Excel, come on buddy. Don't you think if he had a problem with getting it up he might have taken Viagra or something that wasn't specifically known to be on the banned substance list?

Word is viagra wasnt working. He would have tested positive for roids if he has taken them.

And yes, Bay has been money this seaosn.

Well, like I said I hoped he hadn't used. But it appears that all my hopes for him or other hitters not using is slim to none.

I still maintain that Griffey never used.

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Well the reports saying it was for something medical. Regardless of why he took it the substance is banned and he should have made darn sure it wasn't on that list before taking it.

If it ever turns out that Griffey used steroids, then I officially won't believe anyone who says they didn't use them. Griffey just stands out because I remember being a kid without a baseball team in my home town (besides the Zephyrs or whatever their name was) and therefore not having any particular team or player to root for. Then a tall, lenky, athletic kid starts playing for the Mariners and has incredible numbers. The early 90s were great to see him hit. At the same time when Sosa and McGuire were trying to break the single season home run record, Griffey had all but disappeared due to constant injury. He never bulked up and never really made a huge come back.

Anyway, he was my favorite player as a kid. And from his career numbers and when he posted those numbers I don't think there are any indications that he used PEDs. Unlike almost every other player in the league, I will believe him when he says he never touched the stuff.

From what I read, Manny tested positive for HCG, which is generally used after a steroid cycle to upregulate HPTA and return the body to homeostasis. It's other use is during a steroid cycle, in which it acts as LH, which helps the body continue its test production. The only other reason to use it would if he were a pregnant woman....