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What LeBron is doing is reminding everybody that, before they are fans of ________, they are BASKETBALL fans. Back in the day, if it wasnt the celtics, I wasnt watching, and thats how it is for a lot of people and their teams. Kobe & Shaq kind of had a thing going where they brought people in, but not so much.

LeBron is getting attention from EVERYBODY. You can hate the Cavs with a passion, but youll still watch just because hes that good. Nobodys had that effect since Jordan.

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Maybe if your goal is to lose. Kobe is a career loser; LBJ is the oppo.

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Dammit Houston... Battier is kicking Kobe's ass again and you're not even within 10 at home. Score more!

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Good game. I dont think home court matters for this lakers. They are not even playing that well. This is an excellent series for the lakers. Last season winning western conference was too easy for lakers. This time they have to sweat it out. Plus they have not peaked. I think bynum should feel better if lakers reach nba finals.

Is Yao hurt? He is so brittle, this series could break him down for another long lay off.

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Artest ejected. I am not sure that is a good call. There i s no doubt Artest is a thug but that looked ok to me. I guess it is his reputation.

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Houston's not winning another game. And after the way the Celtics played tonight it wouldn't surprise me if they don't either (well, they'll at least probably win Game 5).

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Wow! Denver is gonna sweep. There's no way the Mavs recover from that.


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awful way to end a game :disgust:

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awful way to end a game :disgust:

What are you talking about, that was freaking sweet shot by Melo! He has done that a few times this year with 1.0 second left. And the drive he had on the previous play was excellently executed.

That being said, with the plethora of fouls being called I was sure they were going to call a foul on Wright. It was the same officials that basically handed the 2006 championship to Miami. Maybe they just don't like Dallas.

Very intense game to watch.

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I still don't know how they didn't call that foul. Like, there is no way around it. He fouled him.

I'm not that devastated because I already assume we were losing this series. But it's still completely bullshit.

Yeah, it was a foul. But nonetheless, Dallas had plenty of opportunities to win the game. Dirk in the last 7 minutes was 0-5 with 1 pt. The only positive thing he did was the pass to Terry (which in reality was a bad cover job by Anthony Carter... we were playing Dirk 1-on-1 all game for that exact reason).

This reminds me of the Derek Fisher no call last year. That too was an obvious call though it was a different situation.

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A competitive first half against the Cavs? Almost unbelievable.

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Yao has a broken foot and is out for the playoffs. FUCK. :(

His body is just too big to be pushed year-round like his is. If the pressure to play for China wasn't so ridiculously big he could just stop doing it like Nash did, but that will never happen...

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conference finals are going to be awwwwwwwwwwsome :D

Cavs/Magics
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The next round should be more interesting just because none of the teams have major injury troubles.
Jameer Nelson?

Even though the Cavs will most likely win this game, it's troubling to see Mo Williams do absolutely nothing.


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I called this yesterday. Rockets are never winning championship with yao(nor tracy). They should get him fit and trade him while he has real trade value. They should try to bring back Ron Artest and try to get one big player for yao.

How about yao for amare or bosh. knicks could also be in the mix if they include they 09 pick which should be pretty high.


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Good game. I dont think home court matters for this lakers. They are not even playing that well. This is an excellent series for the lakers. Last season winning western conference was too easy for lakers. This time they have to sweat it out. Plus they have not peaked. I think bynum should feel better if lakers reach nba finals.

Is Yao hurt? He is so brittle, this series could break him down for another long lay off.

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Hi, I'm Lebron James. I'm the 2nd most unstoppable force in the NBA.


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after he wins it all in June he'll be #1 ;)

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The next round should be more interesting just because none of the teams have major injury troubles.


IMO Cleveland is going to wipe out Orlando in like 5 games. I think they're going to have one of those 14-2 or 15-1 playoff runs and cement themselves as one of the best teams ever. But even if they didn't, Orlando's series are always crap anyways... don't know why but even if it's close they always disinterest me

Even though I'm usually a lot bigger fan of the NBA than NHL or MLB/NFL, the playoffs just... don't work as well, sans lightning in a bottle series like the Boston/Chicago one or whatever. I'm already kind of more excited about the draft and what teams will do in the summer than the rest of the playoffs. I guess particularly this year because my team missed the playoffs and Bosh looks like he'll either be extended or traded which will have a huge effect on the team's direction, but yeah

I think the Stanley Cup Playoffs are still the best. Probably because the games and series are a LOT more unpredictable. In the NBA playoffs it's been inevitable that Cleveland and LA would make the finals (but now it looks like Denver's in there too) and thus a lot of series were underwhelming, and almost all of them are unofficially over by the 4th game

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There was a Yahoo Sports writer who -- maybe two months ago -- said something like...LeBron is the best teammate, Kobe is the most ruthless, Dwayne Wade is the most dynamic...

The idea was that Kobe is the most ruthless because he likes to embarrass his opponents.

LeBron will prove himself as clutch when required. Kobe has a knack for pulling last minute plays, but there's another 47 minutes that count. If LeBron's playing those 47 minutes well enough that the last minute isn't close (like he's doing), we shouldn't discount him for not being clutch. But I think "clutch" is a silly concept anyway. Players should play entire games at their peak. If we celebrate Kobe for turning on his 'engine' when it counts, we should be simultaneously criticizing him for not having that 'engine' turned on from the get-go. You know?

I agree that Kobe can play a more aggressive game when things are close, but also see some hypocrisy...if Kobe doesn't knock a tight shot, people don't reconsider his clutchness. Clutchness is such a subjective concept that it's only relevant when the outcome is positive...if Kobe can't knock the three-pointer with 0.3 seconds left, people justify it as "bad luck." But the three-pointer with 0.2 seconds left...oh, yeah, that was "clutch."


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da torri wrote:
There was a Yahoo Sports writer who -- maybe two months ago -- said something like...LeBron is the best teammate, Kobe is the most ruthless, Dwayne Wade is the most dynamic...

The idea was that Kobe is the most ruthless because he likes to embarrass his opponents.

LeBron will prove himself as clutch when required. Kobe has a knack for pulling last minute plays, but there's another 47 minutes that count. If LeBron's playing those 47 minutes well enough that the last minute isn't close (like he's doing), we shouldn't discount him for not being clutch. But I think "clutch" is a silly concept anyway. Players should play entire games at their peak. If we celebrate Kobe for turning on his 'engine' when it counts, we should be simultaneously criticizing him for not having that 'engine' turned on from the get-go. You know?

I agree that Kobe can play a more aggressive game when things are close, but also see some hypocrisy...if Kobe doesn't knock a tight shot, people don't reconsider his clutchness. Clutchness is such a subjective concept that it's only relevant when the outcome is positive...if Kobe can't knock the three-pointer with 0.3 seconds left, people justify it as "bad luck." But the three-pointer with 0.2 seconds left...oh, yeah, that was "clutch."


Bingo. Kobe plays like shit for the whole game and just ges off on occasion at the end...LBJ is never in that situation because he owns from the begining.

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da torri wrote:
There was a Yahoo Sports writer who -- maybe two months ago -- said something like...LeBron is the best teammate, Kobe is the most ruthless, Dwayne Wade is the most dynamic...

The idea was that Kobe is the most ruthless because he likes to embarrass his opponents.

LeBron will prove himself as clutch when required. Kobe has a knack for pulling last minute plays, but there's another 47 minutes that count. If LeBron's playing those 47 minutes well enough that the last minute isn't close (like he's doing), we shouldn't discount him for not being clutch. But I think "clutch" is a silly concept anyway. Players should play entire games at their peak. If we celebrate Kobe for turning on his 'engine' when it counts, we should be simultaneously criticizing him for not having that 'engine' turned on from the get-go. You know?

I agree that Kobe can play a more aggressive game when things are close, but also see some hypocrisy...if Kobe doesn't knock a tight shot, people don't reconsider his clutchness. Clutchness is such a subjective concept that it's only relevant when the outcome is positive...if Kobe can't knock the three-pointer with 0.3 seconds left, people justify it as "bad luck." But the three-pointer with 0.2 seconds left...oh, yeah, that was "clutch."


Bingo. Kobe plays like shit for the whole game and just ges off on occasion at the end...LBJ is never in that situation because he owns from the begining.
Kobe is getting old though, so you can't really fault him for that. If Kobe had the mentality that he has now in his 25 year old body he'd be in the same league as LeBron as a player. Right now he's slightly below with D-Wade, CP3, Dwight Howard, etc...


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Well, it was fun while lasted.

The Rockets will never trade Yao simply for the fact that he brings so much economic value, and actively trading him would be a public relation disaster. However, Yao may seek a new team himself when his contract expires in order to have a better chance at advancing in the playoffs (e.g. going to the East). TMac is a different matter, but they should've traded him while his value was high instead of now, where I don't think Rockets could get much in return.

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Apparently Battier decided to play well today....

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Rockets without Yao are like a bunch of hounds all over the court

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that last shot to end the 3rd quarter was awwwwwsome! :D GO ROCKETS!!!!
even though i picked the Lakers to win today. :pinch:

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Heres a interesting Stat if people think that Houston is done against the Lakers

Houston is 4-0 without Yao all time against the Lakers. So maybe him going down is a blessing in disguise.


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