Also, the idea that we're "using tax payers money" to show this is kind of flawed considring that it cost us NOTHING to show this (even the DVD was free) and we were going to get close to $3,000 for this which would have just gone back to the university since that's where all our money goes.

This whole thing has just pissed me off. It angers me that politcians can just bully organizations to do what they want without any sort of debate. We literally had no chance to even argue our case. It's just complete bullshit.

Oy vey Krem.

If the government isn't funding the film -- and it truly costs nothing to bring the film to the theatre -- why does it matter if they screen it? For the university AND the government, it's a win-win situation. The university reinvests in itself with any profit generated (outside of Magnus' wages). And that's money the government doesn't have to invest into the university and can use for other things...like building a Purple Line!

Seems silly to me. We shouldn't be preventing public institutions from covering their costs from within. Given the economic situation...that's desirable.

Deal with the devil?

Yes, the university is funded by the state but the state does not run the university. The university does not go through the state for approval or disapproval except for major things like building a new school or something. But micro-level stuff like the theater? The state has NEVER been involved. By the state doing this, you're opening up the idea that the state can control the university, which would just be a disaster.

Again, it's not like this hasn't been done before. We showed Deep Throat just four years ago. The reason why this time it's an issue is because some Republican senators who are scared about re-relection wanted to abuse their powers to make a PR move to help their image.

Also, why should the entire university suffer? The justification for cutting funding to EVERYONE makes no sense. I'd understand this a bit more if they threatened to shut the theater down, but the entire university?

Excuse me, but what the fuck are you people talking about? I mean almost everyone else but Magnus.

YOU bitch EVERY TIME politicians do things you don't like, and now as Magnus does the same, you just go "Oh, you just gotta live with it! That's how the world spins around!". I mean, what the fuck? Is that supposed to make sense somehow?

Politicians run their game with OUR money, so they respond to US. We can bitch and complain about their exactly as much we want. And contrary to what some people apparently think, politicians DON'T finance Magnus university. TAXPAYERS do. The same people who also pay the salaries to the aforementioned politicians.

I think Krem's point was the if you want to show the movie, go show it at a non-subsidized theater, that way you don't have to comply [as much] with government regulations and interference.

Magnus makes perfect sense, you lot going down the government devil route are being silly. This would never happen in an Irish University and they are funded by the government. And saying a University should be run without money from the taxpayer is a non starter. Yes lets have each class start with a plug for Pepsi Cola.

You mean this?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 21,00.html

At this point, I'm actually sick of it. I was frustrated when I started this thread but now it's just gone out of control. No one knows what the hell they're talking about, and the ones that do (the theater) aren't allowed to speak. The "real" first amendment fight is the fact that anyone apart of the theater cannot speak or they will be fired. I mean, I understand why they do it...it's just bullshit. You have something like this with hundreds of people without a clue talking about it and then the people who know what's going on can't speak.

And yes, a student group did have a screening of the film in a classroom, but let's get the facts straight on that: The "student group" that did that is really a political party who is running for SGA election (which just so happen to be this week) and it just so happen to be that this party was looking to get their ass kicked before this whole thing. Also, they didn't show the whole thing, just like twenty minutes. I hate this group even more because like the state senators, they made an issue out of this just for PR.

Funny thing is that if a student group had tried to show the porn at the Hoff and charge money, the state could not do a thing because student groups are protected. Yet in that case, the state only loses money because they have to pay for the theater employee salaries during the filming while they recieve none of the ticket revenue. So if porn is going to be shown, the best scenario for the state is to let the theater show it...yet it's only in this scenario that the state can "legally" stop the screening.

As I said, we were showing this film because we thought it'd be a good way to get some easy money and because we thought it'd be stupid fun. The people who were going to watch the porn were people who were going BECAUSE it was supposed to be stupid fun. If anyone actually wanted to jack off, they'd just download it for free. It was supposed to be silly and now it's become silly but in a whole another way.