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Jedi Master Carr
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 C-Span's Presidential Rank
In honor of President's Day C-Span Ranked the presidents. http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSu...ip-survey.aspxSome of the list is okay, but I think they rank some presidents too high like Kennedy, Reagan, and Truman none of them belong that high. If I had to rank the top 10 and bottom 10 I would do it this way (I think you have to exclude William Henry Harrison and Garfield neither was president for more than 3 months.) 1 Lincoln 2 Jefferson 3 FDR 4 Theodore Roosevelt 5 Washington 6 James Madison 7 Harry Truman 8 James Polk 9 Woodrow Wilson 10 John Adams Bottom 5 40 Harding 39 Buchanan 38 Grant 37 Pierce 36 Filmore
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:40 pm |
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Timayd
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 Re: C-Span's Presidential Rank
I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:09 pm |
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Jim Halpert
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i always find the JFK top 10 to be to much. He just didn't serve long enough to be in the top 10. I'd also have Ike and Reagan higher. LBJ being so high is odd too.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:13 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Timayd wrote: I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything. Him and Garfield, they both died very early in their terms that they shouldn't be ranked.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:42 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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I don't have a lot of quibbles with it. I would have ranked Dubya a lot lower.  I think you have to include Harrison for the simple fact that he was president and any inclusive list would have him on it.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:47 pm |
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Timayd
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Jedi Master Carr wrote: Timayd wrote: I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything. Him and Garfield, they both died very early in their terms that they shouldn't be ranked. But at least Garfield's death provided a boost for Civil Service reform. Harrison only provided a test for succession.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:54 pm |
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Tyler
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Woodrow Wilson? Are you shitting me?
As for LBJ, he got fucked by Vietnam, though his massive ego didn't help either.
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Chippy
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Beeblebrox wrote: I don't have a lot of quibbles with it. I would have ranked Dubya a lot lower.  I think you have to include Harrison for the simple fact that he was president and any inclusive list would have him on it. There's a reason they didn't ask YOU to vote.
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:46 pm |
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Chippy
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I like the list. It's just another list.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:47 pm |
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torrino
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Lyndon Johnson, outside of Vietnam, was an excellent president.
Don't take your local parks and theatres and etc for granted.
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Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:52 pm |
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Tyler
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da torri wrote: Lyndon Johnson, outside of Vietnam, was an excellent president.
Don't take your local parks and theatres and etc for granted. QFT.
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:04 pm |
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junio
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Bad link. 
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:36 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Rorschach wrote: Any list that doesn't have GW or FDR as 1-2 (either way) has no merit. I believe that GW is 2 and FDR is 3 (if I'm remembering that correctly), with Lincoln as 1. Not bad. 
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:24 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Rorschach wrote: Any list that doesn't have GW or FDR as 1-2 (either way) has no merit. Lincoln was a better president than either one. The man did save our nation from splitting into pieces. I take Jefferson over those two as well. Jefferson was a genius.
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:51 pm |
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Jim Halpert
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I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with.
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:17 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Nite Owl wrote: I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with. Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt.
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Jim Halpert
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Jedi Master Carr wrote: Nite Owl wrote: I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with. Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt. yes i know, i wrote a college paper on him. I was just saying it because I still find it hilarious
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Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:40 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Nite Owl wrote: Jedi Master Carr wrote: Nite Owl wrote: I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with. Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt. yes i know, i wrote a college paper on him. I was just saying it because I still find it hilarious yeah poor Jefferson, that was another reason he didn't free his slaves because if he had his creditors would have took his house.
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Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:10 pm |
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Tyler
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Jefferson was an asshole who'd have probably sided with the Confederates.
Hamilton was the best president we never had.
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:14 pm |
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Skyblade
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I always wanted to make a movie where time travellers go back in time to kill Hitler, but one double crosses them and goes after Millard Filmore "for being so boring". He arrives at his destination, with Filmore at diner remarking "The nutrition is palpable". Rogue traveller plugs him screaming "Shut up! You bland fucking bastard, shut up!" When they arrive in the present day, they find out modern world lacks indoor plumbing.
What have you doooooone?
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:47 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Anton Chigurh wrote: Jefferson was an asshole who'd have probably sided with the Confederates.
Hamilton was the best president we never had. Jefferson hated slavery, he called it an abomination. He tried to pass a bill that would stop Slavery from going to the territories but it was shot down by SC and the other southern states. The man was a genius and to me one of our greatest president. If Hamilton had become president he would have declared himself Emperor of North American the man was a sociopath who wanted power.
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Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:21 pm |
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Tyler
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Yes, but it was over 200 years ago now. It's going past "this guy was an asshole" and closer to "this guy would make a great fucking movie". Think Genghis Khan.
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Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:29 pm |
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Tyler
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It had the potential, though.
Hell, it all explains my hard-on for LBJ and Nixon. Crazy as hell, but their narcissism was an artform.
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