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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/b ... ml?eref=T1

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Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

By Selena Roberts and David Epstein

In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.

Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.

When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

Phone messages left by SI for players' union executive director Donald Fehr were not returned.

Though MLB's drug policy has expressly prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003. The results of that year's survey testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the players association. Rodriguez's testing information was found, however, after federal agents, armed with search warrants, seized the '03 test results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., of Long Beach, Calif., one of two labs used by MLB in connection with that year's survey testing. The seizure took place in April 2004 as part of the government's investigation into 10 major league players linked to the BALCO scandal -- though Rodriguez himself has never been connected to BALCO.

The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.

Primobolan, which is also known by the chemical name methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug that is more expensive than most steroids. (A 12-week cycle can cost $500.) It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development, according to steroid experts, and has relatively few side effects. Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse employee who in 2007 pleaded guilty to illegal distribution of steroids to numerous major league players, described in his recent book, Bases Loaded: The Inside Story of the Steroid Era in Baseball by the Central Figure in the Mitchell Report, how players increasingly turned to drugs such as Primobolan in 2003, in part to avoid detection in testing. Primobolan is detectable for a shorter period of time than the steroid previously favored by players, Deca-Durabolin. According to a search of FDA records, Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States, nor was it in 2003. (Testosterone can be taken legally with an appropriate medical prescription.)

Rodriguez finished the 2003 season by winning his third straight league home run title (with 47) and the first of his three MVP awards.

Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04. According to the 2007 Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball, in September 2004, Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the players' union, violated an agreement with MLB by tipping off a player (not named in the report) about an upcoming, supposedly unannounced drug test. Three major league players who spoke to SI said that Rodriguez was also tipped by Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later that month. Rodriguez declined to respond on Thursday when asked about the warning Orza provided him.

When Orza was asked on Friday in the union's New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told a reporter, "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."

Anticipating that the 33-year-old Rodriguez, who has 553 career home runs, could become the game's alltime home run king, the Yankees signed him in November 2007 to a 10-year, incentive-laden deal that could be worth as much as $305 million. Rodriguez is reportedly guaranteed $275 million and could receive a $6 million bonus each time he ties one of the four players at the top of the list: Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Hank Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds (762), and an additional $6 million for passing Bonds. In order to receive the incentive money, the contract reportedly requires Rodriguez to make extra promotional appearances and sign memorabilia for the Yankees as part of a marketing plan surrounding his pursuit of Bonds's record. Two sources familiar with Rodriguez's contract told SI that there is no language about steroids in the contract that would put Rodriguez at risk of losing money.

Arguments before an 11-judge panel in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena are ongoing between government prosecutors and the players' association over the government's seizure of the test results from the Long Beach lab. The agents who collected the material had a search warrant only for the results for the 10 BALCO-linked players. Attorneys from the union argue that the government is entitled only to the results for those players, not the entire list. If the court sides with the union, federal authorities may be barred from using the positive survey test results of non-BALCO players such as Rodriguez in their ongoing investigations.


Wow. Ouch.

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Yeah right. I dont think it tais his #'s that much and he should still get into the hall of famer; but yankee fans already dont like him.

Hell be remembered a cheating choke artist.

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Not surprising, just about every pro athlete uses some sort of performance enhancing drug(s).


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If Clemens,McGwire and Sosa don't make the hall of fame, neither should Aroid.

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If I were A-rod I would be pissed at the union. Absolutely furious. What boggles me is how they let confidential information like that get out.

This sucks for baseball. The only one that I can say didn't use steriods was Griffey, Jr. That's it. Everyone else is suspect in my mind.

How does baseball move on from this?

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Rorschach wrote:
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If Clemens,McGwire and Sosa don't make the hall of fame, neither should Aroid.


The thing about McGwire/Sosa is that evidence has it that they used it for many years. Not the same case for A-Rod. Plus, he's more than just a slugger unlike those two.

The problem with Clemens is that the way he handled the allegations. If he had just apologized the first day people found out, people would have forgiven him by now.


These guys have too big egos to apologize. I can't think of one that ever did that made them look human.


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If Clemens,McGwire and Sosa don't make the hall of fame, neither should Aroid.


The thing about McGwire/Sosa is that evidence has it that they used it for many years. Not the same case for A-Rod. Plus, he's more than just a slugger unlike those two.


That didn't help Barry

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If I were A-rod I would be pissed at the union. Absolutely furious. What boggles me is how they let confidential information like that get out.

This sucks for baseball. The only one that I can say didn't use steriods was Griffey, Jr. That's it. Everyone else is suspect in my mind.

How does baseball move on from this?


Who says it was the unions fault > and it came based on a legal order.

From the article > The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.


PS. This goes back to a thread I started years ago > about releasing infomation on the condition of anonymity > seems like just an easy way to sell papers without letting one get a fair trial. Witchhunt?


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These guys have too big egos to apologize. I can't think of one that ever did that made them look human.


Why should they apologize for something that pretty much every pro athlete is doing?


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These guys have too big egos to apologize. I can't think of one that ever did that made them look human.


Why should they apologize for something that pretty much every pro athlete is doing?


because they shouldn't be doing, it sets a bad message to kids.


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what a shocker. he went from skinny to gigantic. not saying the roids had too much of an effect on his stats, but he got huge in a hurry.


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Yankees Suck!!!

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Every player took the tests. All this does is make Manny and Thome look even better. We knew Griff never did em.

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Manny may have his Mannyisms, and he has a horrible agent but he's one of the few that has had crazy consistent numbers in this era that (hopefully) hasn't used.

I remember when Griff started playing in Seattle. Everyone at that time thought he was destined to break all kinds of records. He was unstoppable during his early years. And then he got hurt. I guess what made it more real is that he didn't come back the same after the injuries. Just makes him more human ... I doubt he has a chance to get to 700, but it would be cool to see.

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He was a Ranger then


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104 players tested positive. And they probably caught at max 50%. This would be horrible for the league in any other country then the US where they don't care about doping. All that matters is winning. (see Armstrong, Phelps et al.)


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honestly who gives a fuck. It wasn't cheating in 2003


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He just needs to admit to everything and he'll come out of this clean.

But it really does make you appreciate Manny/Griffey/Thome even more.

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He was a Ranger then

Texas sucks too.

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But it really does make you appreciate Manny/Griffey/Thome even more.


there are 103 more players NOT named yet.

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But it really does make you appreciate Manny/Griffey/Thome even more.


there are 103 more players NOT named yet.


Until then, I appreciate them.

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But it really does make you appreciate Manny/Griffey/Thome even more.


there are 103 more players NOT named yet.


Until then, I appreciate them.


How about Vladdy? He is naturally good without the enhancers.

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We'll see.

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Holy crap!! He admitted to it!

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Right thing to do IMO

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