Some of you may remember a little while back I decided to choose McCain based on him suspending his campaign to deal with the crisis in Washington.

At that time, the economy was in serious danger (still is), and I was particularly upset that neither candidate would even bother to take part in the process. Looking at the snap judgment of McCain's act, I was thrilled to see someone at least going back to Washington to take part in the proceedings, even if it was not a particular area of expertise. I wanted them both there, listening and learning, educating themselves on the issue and voting as however they felt best for the American and Global economy.

So why do I think I may be wrong about picking McCain?

The long and short of it, I don't think I can support someone who makes snap judgments in the fashion McCain has shown. Make no mistake, a President must make snap judgments, but it's how you go about making them that is important, not the act. The more and more I read, the more worried I become about how McCain makes his decisions.

I like Palin, I like the type of person she is and I like what she has done in Alaska as Governor. But I strongly dislike how McCain went against the advise of all his advisers, pulled rank and picked her without due diligence. I have no problem with Palin, but I do strongly take issue with how she was selected. It doesn't help that while she is a very bright and intelligent woman, she isn't educated on far too many of the issues (why would she be?), and simply is not ready for the position.

Same goes for the suspension of his campaign. It was what I wanted to see, but the more I heard about how he went about it, the less I feel I can trust his decision making ability. Your advisers are there for a reason, and when all of them are telling you one thing, and you decide to do another based not on knowledge, but on a whim, and then slowly back out as you realize it was a bad political move ... well, that doesn't sit well with me.


When it comes to the issues, I still find myself split down the middle, and the decision is not easy. Washington is broken, and I don't think any single candidate can fix it. It's broken on both sides of the isle, and you're a fool if you think otherwise. That said, I like Obama the man better than McCain the man, and with the all Democrat majority he is likely to have, we'll see exactly what kind of change he can bring.

I'll give him 4 years, jump from one side of the fence to the other, and vote for Obama. Though it should be mentioned, there is still a debate to go, and 4 weeks until the election ... I've flip flopped once, if I find someone's stance on an issue or an action a candidate has taken strong enough to slid me back in the other direction, I'll pull the opposite lever.

Thank you for considering these things, Eagle. You're joining a long list of conservatives who are questioning McCain's judgment. They may like his positions, but see his anger problems, his decision-making, and his leadership lacking, and are not sure they're going to vote for the guy.

One way to judge the candidates is how well they have run their campaigns, too, you know -- who they surround themselves with, and how well they are doing. You don't have to be a Democrat to agree that Obama has run an excellent campaign. He is organized, has chosen competent people to help him, has not made any major mistakes, has raised more money than any candidate in history, defeated the insider, and has overcome a ton of hurdles to get where he is. If he were running a business, you'd invest in it without a second thought. That's leadership.

McCain, on the other hand, has floundered his entire campaign, going from one mistake to another, and has gotten where he is mostly because all the alternatives were worse. His campaign is full of the same people who have ruined this country for the last eight years, and he made a snap decision on his Vice President and chose someone completely unqualified for the position. He's had no long term plan on how to win (like Obama has) and has just gone along, day by day, dealing with situations as they arise. That's not leadership.

McCain just doesn't seem like he would be a level-headed president. We would wake up one morning and Europe would be bombed by us because they called his wife a ho!

Yeah, only McCain is allowed to call his wife those kinds of things!

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What he said.

And I would add that McCain's policies are the argument against him as well. His newest bailout plan of buying up all of the nation's bad mortgages at their original value and then reselling them at current market value appeals to absolutely no one. It's so reckless and expensive that his supporters deny that it's even his plan.

So I'm glad to see reason prevail in this case.

You know of all the things to point out what is wrong with McCains policy this is by for the most pointless one. His budget plan and tax cuts are the best one as they truly are reckless with little to no return for the economy and this would be something he would try to pass if he was elected.

That said this is something that would not be passed and it is something that is almost right. I do feel if the goverment were to do a bailout that the first responsibility would be be to readjust the mortgages that people already own and are overinflated in value of course with oversight. I do think any house that is well into the foreclosure process should be accepted as the people that would need the help wouldn't benefit from it.

I also feel that if landlords were to accept the readjustments that savings-a small amount of profit shoudl be reflected in the rent for those houses. IMO this would do wonders for the economy in terms of spending. Splitting hairs I know as McCains "plan" as of right now is not good but it almost is. There is a lot that he has wrong and focusing on something that IMO is almost right and will never be pushed is a bit weak.

Not that I think anyone can fix the f up world or USA.

But my question on Obama, with all the problems we have, will he be correcting the present problems or trying to add other things to the list and just get nothing done.

First off, with the problems we have how is he going to cut taxes as he promised?

You better forget that. Taxes will rise. Nothing he can do.

Well, the difference between McCain and Obama's tax cuts are that McCain will cut everyone's taxes, but mostly those above $250,000. Obama wants to increase the taxes of those above $250,000 while reducing it below that amount by a much larger amount than McCain...

I think if you balance it out, Obama's increases to the rich (which is really just returning it to what it was before Bush) will pay for the cuts for the poorer segment.

As for the economy right now, there is a thought that the way to stimulate it is not, as conservatives always claim, by giving more money to people who already have it, but by giving it to the rest of us, who can then buy stuff. What good is it to start a new business if no one has any money to buy anything? Let's try "trickle up" economics for once, since the other one doesn't work.

Convincing the middle class and the poor that supply-side economics actually benefited them is probably one of the great PR scams of all time.

I still remember the "bitch" comment for Hillary. Sure it wasn't him that said it but he didn't disagree.

and do you think he will do anything on the budget, deficit or something that people have been talking about for years like Social Security, etc.....

Now I understand how Roid became an administrator.

that's just wrong.

Also, then why is he running this BS ad, this is why I hate politics. This is his ad that I see the most so how many people will vote for him just for this 1 BS lie of an Ad.

one should also never rely on FILMO as a source of information.

he will probably tax the rich.

I hope so, but unfortunately he has to clean up after the Republicans first, who drove this country into the ground. Remember that it is always the Democratic party that reduces the defecit and cuts the budget, not the Republicans, so your chances are better with a Democrat in there than a Republican.

i still don't buy that either candidate will actually lower taxes. We have such an awful defecit right now that I expect taxes to be raised on the majority of people.

the bailout shouldn't necessarily mean an increase in taxes.

its an investment. buying preferred stock in these banks, and then selling these assets when they have recovered in value. and let's be frank, the US budget deficit has already been blown to shit over the past 7 years.

i think the bailout makes sense.

Or get rid of all traditional ideas for economic systems since they don't work?

I also just saw this - F'ing Joke as they do this for the current people without caring about the future people who are not only paying more for it now but have a slim chance to get it in the future.

>>>> Social Security benefits for 50 million people will go up 5.8 percent next year, the largest increase in more than a quarter century.


Joke > no insights, sure they will fix the problem when they are ignoring it.

>>> Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain have sparred over Social Security during the presidential campaign, although neither has provided much insight into how they would fix the government's largest entitlement program, which is facing severe strains with the upcoming retirement of 78 million baby boomers.

HELLO, SET UP A MEANS TEST! FOR EXAMPLE I HAVE PAID IN MORE THAN MY FATHER HAS SO START CUTTING THE PAYMENTS - BUT THEY WON'T DO THIS AS THE ELDERLY ARE TOO POWERFUL A VOTING GROUP!


If no changes are made, the Social Security trust fund is projected to deplete its reserves in 2041 and will begin paying out more than it collects in benefits even sooner, starting in 2017.

In addition to the cost of living adjustment, the government announced Thursday that the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security tax will increase next year to $106,800, up from $102,000 this year.

Of the 164 million workers who will pay Social Security taxes in 2009, about 11 million will pay higher taxes as a result of this increase.

Guess with no one talking Obama here anymore, I will have to re-read some old threads!

You're welcome.