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Post Re: The Dark Knight Predictions
Trailer attached to Iron man. Paid a shit load to marvel and paramount for the trailer because marvel doesn't like dc and wb begged for the trailer to be attached and hence they paid a lot to get it attached to it.


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Trailer attached to Iron man. Paid a shit load to marvel and paramount for the trailer because marvel doesn't like dc and wb begged for the trailer to be attached and hence they paid a lot to get it attached to it.


It can't be attached -- Indy 4 is the attached trailer for Iron Man, and you only get one actual attach per flick.


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Poor ladiesman, getting nrervous with tdks defeaning buzz bigger than hulk n im's combined even thoguh it is way furthet away...

the trailer will not be attatched to iron man, but it will be shipped to theaters. it mide as well be attached, batman and indy are far and away the summer 2 most igh profile films-any theater which gets either trailer will air it with the film it comes with, even if it means snubbing another film. It will however be attatched to speed racer the following weekend, and is reportedly gonna be shipped out with indiana jones, and of course be with get smart in june.

but its most important thing is that in 2 weeks itll be online.

also, they did not pay marvel any sort of money, paramounts the distributor. the final iron man trailer with 10k bc back in march, which is a wb film.

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Straight cash, homie wrote:
also, they did not pay marvel any sort of money, paramounts the distributor. the final iron man trailer with 10k bc back in march, which is a wb film.


Going back two years, Superman Returns' final trailer debuted on X-Men: The Last Stand. A Marvel/DC rivalry isn't going to have an effect on what trailers play with which movies.


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it goes even further-the fantastic four final trailer aired with batman begins; n obv spidey 3 with superman. they seem to work together a lot moree so than be rivals

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Ok...here are the trailer descriptions...short story-starts with this long pan over gotham to find batman standing atop a building ala opening shot of MI3 trailer; joker voiceovers "where to begin". Batman leaps off and we follo him gluiding around. We get build ups of joker, harvey, rachel, and bruce (details below). Joker at some point appearts out of a truck and says "here we go", blows shit up, and we get the final action montage with a badass voiceover by harvey saying "you either die a hero....or live long enough to become the villain" :whaa: :whaa: :whaa: :whaa:

it seems extremely remiscenent if the matrix reloaded final trailer, which opted for the most part away from quick cuts and more for awe-inspiring slow/epic money shots.

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- I don't recall much if any fighting in the trailer.

- It focuses more on suspenseful and just flat-out amazing looking scenes than fighting.

- A few new shots of the Batpod yes. Amazing looking, as expected.

- The sound was horrible in the auditorium, lots of echoing, and I even had some trouble understanding some of the dialog because of this. But I do remember new cues being played along with some of the ones we're familiar with. None of that "trailer music" either, this sounded like the score. I want to say I heard some of the two-note Joker cue that Hans Zimmer's been talking about, but I'll admit that this could just be me imagining this, since I want to hear the new score so bad.

- Not a whole lotta lip smacking, but a lot of dialog, you get a clear sense of what he sounds like. He sounds almost playful, in a very wrong sort of way. The "Ladies and Gentlemen!" line is 100% pure Joker concentrate.

- The shot of him approaching Rachel and combing through his hair (while holding a knife) is CREEPY. He's got this innocent schoolboy look on face, like he's about to ask his first crush out on a date.

- Overall, I'd say the trailers split up pretty equally between Bruce/Batman, Joker and Dent. Again, not a lot of fighting, but you get a sense of the relationship between all three.

-Dent really comes off as a man trying to do what is right. Juxtaposed with the shots of him on floor screaming "NOOOOO!!" and the acid or gasoline spilling on the floor around him, you feel sorry for him, knowing what his fate is.

- You can really sense the power that Joker holds in the movie. He comes off as an unstoppable anarchic force that stands as a threat to everyone.

- Not a whole lot of Batman's story-arc is revealed. Bruce's relationship with Rachel is brought up, but most of the shots of Batman are just visually stunning, and epic rather than informative of his role in the plot (like we don't know anyways).

- There was small additional scene after the release date is shown. Alfred asks Bruce if he'll be taking the Tumbler or something. Bruce responds he'll be taking the Murcielago, to which Alfred says some quip, and it cuts to shots of the sports car racing down the street.




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Regarding the Joker:

I want to say he has the first line of dialog in the trailer, but I can't be sure. Either way, his first appearance has him at a meeting with the heads of all the mob families (kind of like in Batman 89). In a kind of insulting manner, he questions them how a few months ago they ruled the city, but how now can't even show their faces. Then says the "Kill the Batman line". They also show a little more of the sequence where he and his goons raid Bruce's penthouse. He says something along the lines of "Ladies and Gentleman, we'll be your entertainment for this evening!" right before the shot of him cocking his gun up in the air shown in the previous trailer. It then shows him advancing towards Rachel, combing through his hair in an attempt to look somewhat presentable, and he makes some kind of remark on how pretty she looks. Uber-creepy.

Regarding Batman:

The beginning of the trailer was very reminiscent of the beginning of the Mission:Impossible 3 trailer, a rather long panning shot of Batman on the roof of a sky-scraper, taken from a helicopter. As mentioned before, the shot of him gliding through Gotham is awe-inspiring.


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The trailer repurposed some older clips, remixing them into something that seemed more plot-centric than the Joker centered piece from last time. Extended sequences featuring Rachel Dawes meeting the Clown Prince of Crime were shown, and attendees also caught more of a glimpse of what appears to be a love triangle/feud that develops between Bruce Wayne, Harvey Dent and Dawes.

While Two Face was entirely absent, a couple hints were dropped about Dent's dark future. As usual, the Joker was the star of the show. A significant portion of the trailer featured Heath Ledger's much-hyped performance. The trailer revealed what appeared to be the genesis of Joker's rise to power in Gotham, with him meeting with a group of people (the mob?), saying the answer to their problems is to kill Batman. That segued into the amazing sequence from the first trailer where Batman and the Joker have a showdown in the middle of the streets.



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After a breathtaking shot of Batman perched high above Gotham, a voiceover from Heath Ledger’s Joker asks “Where do we begin?” Batman glides through the city.

- “Kill the Batman,” the Joker states to an adjoined meeting of mob bosses, before an explosion is shown and the subsequent showing of a Joker card. This seemingly gels with the suspicion that the Joker is controlling the mob through ransom (after robbing the mob-run bank in the IMAX preview).

- After several shots of Harvey Dent in District Attorney mode, we finally get everyone together as the Joker invades a fancy bash with Bruce Wayne (Christopher Nolan), Alfred (Michael Caine), Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) and Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal). Sadly, the scene wasn’t topped off by the Penguin crashing through the floor on a giant duck.

- “The dawn is coming” says Dent in a voiceover.

- The Joker mutters “Here we go” before walking down a city street blowing stuff up in one particularly awesome scene.

- In one of the most foreboding moments of the trailer, Dent emphatically states “You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” Harvey Dent, of course, backwardly referencing his future transformation into super-villain “Two-Face.”

- Our eyes may have been playing tricks on us, but it certainly looked like the Joker drops Dawes at some point. The length of said drop is uncertain

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Yeah, the conspiracy theory that the superhero studios are rivals when it comes to trailers is BS. Now, if Iron Man and TDK were released in the same month, then I think it'd be a bigger deal. I don't remember seeing any Shrek the Turd or At World's End trailers with Spidey 3 when it came out. They were obviously at each other's throats in the same month. Iron Man and TDK are 2.5 months apart. When the first theatrical trailer for TDK was released with I Am Legend, an Iron Man trailer was shown in front of the TDK one. This is with Warner Bros., owner of DC Comics, revealing a trailer for their own superhero movie at the same time.


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LadiesMan217 wrote:
Trailer attached to Iron man. Paid a shit load to marvel and paramount for the trailer because marvel doesn't like dc and wb begged for the trailer to be attached and hence they paid a lot to get it attached to it.


It can't be attached -- Indy 4 is the attached trailer for Iron Man, and you only get one actual attach per flick.


Please explain to me how the trailer process in cinema works. What does being attached to a film mean?


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wb just hit a grand slam with the theatrical trailer

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Word. Just listen to that crowd reaction, which btw is from an Iron Man Sneak peak, not viral showing.

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Straight cash, homie wrote:
Word. Just listen to that crowd reaction, which btw is from an Iron Man Sneak peak, not viral showing.


How do you know? It says it was in Brazil. One of the viral showings was in Brazil.


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didnt know that, iron man opens there toda i believe though.

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wow!

The tdk trailer won't hit until sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which means some stupid batman fans will go watch iron man and help $$$ though not much. Iron Man will make money on its own merit.


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wow!

The tdk trailer won't hit until sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which means some stupid batman fans will go watch iron man and help $$$ though not much. Iron Man will make money on its own merit.


Actually TDK is gonna ride Iron Man's coattails. Every single person that sees Iron Man that wasn't interested in TDK to begin with will now at least know about it. Just like with I Am Legend.


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$120m OW/ $340m total atm.

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BJs Best Prediction Ever:

175m | 610m

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BJ wrote:
BJs Best Prediction Ever:

175m | 610m



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145m/370m


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I'm starting to think my 95/285-ish prediction was low-balling.

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magnus it wont open that high and will have much better legs then 2.7

pirates 2 got a 3.1. and that had decent wom at best.

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Straight cash, homie wrote:
magnus it wont open that high and will have much better legs then 2.7

pirates 2 got a 3.1. and that had decent wom at best.


That was sold out all OW. Look at Monday. Higher than most movies to open with 135m. ;)


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still, id go something like...

Fri: 50 (12 million in midnights)
Sat: 38 (Friday without the midnights)
Sun: 28 (-25%)

ow: 116

multiplier of 2.9 =336 million total.

I would say opening day and opening weekend minimums are 45/100.

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I think it has a decent shot at a $40 million opening day and $90-95 million OW.


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August weekdays are just as good

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Which i why it wont do 3.2, but 2.7 is still too low

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