Insomniac, BJB is an admitted troll. He's one of those sick guys who masterbates behind the screen when he gets people angry at him because that gets him off. He says things simply to get people upset, because he has no control over his own life and is probably one of those guys who cleans toilets or something in a dead-end job and who everyone takes advantage of. This is his only outlet, where in the anonimity of the internet, he can be powerful.

The best way to deal with people like this is to laugh at them and basically ignore them. Sure, go ahead an point out his stupidity and ignorance, but do it for our benefit so we can laugh at him even more. Don't ever expect him to admit when he is wrong, and never let him get to you, because then the terrorists win!

You know, I'm astounded how wonderful you are at totally missing the point. My problem has never been with your original point. You see the part in my last post that you quoted for me? I agreed with it. So let's move on to the last two pages in this thread, which is where the problem really lies...which you apparently don't want to address by your constant aversion. You are trying to let the media tell you what his positions are, when you and I both know that's not what's going to happen. You said it yourself. So stop relying on the media and take the power to educate yourself where the media fails you. I know it might be hard not to turn your brain off and just blindly agree with everything Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, or whatever else you watch. But you have the resources. It was given to you. I'd love for you to come back in this thread and give an educated opinion on this. Right now you're arguing about a nonissue. The issue you have right now is with Obama's presentation, and the media love for him. You've never criticized what really matters right now: his positions. Just because his media darlings don't want to give them to you doesn't mean that they are not there.

Do you seriously not see your hypocrisy?

Yeah, I think I'm one of those people "with the serenity to know the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." I normally don't like to feed BKB. I'm not kidding though when I say the thing that insult me the most is when somebody chooses to be ignorant about something, even though they have the resources not to be. That's a big deal to me. I honestly don't know why, but it's something I've always felt really passionate about. Plus yesterday wasn't the best day for me, so this thread was an outlet. I've got my venting out, so I doubt I'll lose track of my serenity and my wisdom again.

You seem to think my problem is your perception of Obama. It really isn't, and, for the third third time, I don't disagree.

I'm not going to bother trying to simplify my point any more. I doubt you'd listen to it anyway. Each tiem I do, you go back to the nonissue of Obama when the real problem here is one out of principle of education and reliance on the media, not politics.

To clarify, bkb is a Hillary supporter, correct? I do not want anyone to get the impression that he is a Republican backer.

And he still doesn't get it.

This is the fourth time where I'll say that I agree with your main point. And the fourth time I'll say that this isn't my problem.

Yeah, good contribution to the thread

Why would you vote for McCain over Obama when your ideal candidate, Hillary, has the same views on nearly every issue as Obama? They have basically the same policies just with different details, yet you would switch all the way to McCain?

BKB doesn't like to think about, you know, political positions and rationale. He likes experience and stature. He fits right in with the rest of Washington.

So glad I have BKB on my ignore list. I have no idea what his last two posts are about and I'm thankful for that.

So BKK, why not just support McCain from the getgo? You said it yourself, experience trumps anything else. Of any of the candidates, McCain (and even Paul) have more experience.

You know, with your constant responses to BKB, you're becoming nearly as cute as he is. Not quite though. You need to work on it a bit more.

Whether or not you think the Obama phenomenon is farce, you can't deny how massive it is right now. It's absolutely insane and it's occurring at just the right time for him.

Even up here in Canada, the term "US election envy" has been coined by the media to describe how most Canadians are far more fixated on the US primaries than anything going on in Canadian politics. People are constantly complaining about our Prime Minister and Opposition leaders, wishing we "had an Obama or a Clinton" to make things interesting again. Even when it seemed like we were on the cusp of another federal election, it was always Obama this, Clinton that...

It's definitely starting to border on being a cliché, but I can see where it's coming from. You guys should consider yourselves lucky to be in the midst of quite an exciting campaign right now.

I certainly am. I've been involved in politics all my adult life, and this is the most exciting race I have followed.

And Americans are really tuning in and paying attention for once! (Of course, the writer's strike may have had something to do with that -- the election is kind of like the biggest and most important reality show ever)

I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids!

This is the first presidential election campaign that I've really followed. I was probably old enough in 2004, but didn't care as much, so I didn't bother. This is the first one in which I'm voting as well. I'm worried the whole campaign is going to spoil me for the next few decades until something this exciting comes along again. I really have no frame of reference, just a bunch of news/wiki articles and history texts on how everything has gone down in the past.

I used MSNBC's "grid" to see which candidates I agreed with on issues...

I agree with Obama on EVERY issue...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21116732