The Cavs have been a mess in preseason without Varejao, Pavlovic. We beat em by 33 tonight and they were playing their full lineup all night long. Their early schedule is tough, so they better sort out the kinks...

Hmm another 30 point win, against the Wiz this time. I'm one of those people who thinks preseason means jack all, but this is still impressive and makes me happy. Delfino and Kapwno look solid. On a side note I can't believe Ford got 6 boards tonight... not something you see every day. And maybe Bargs most all-around killer game, 17 points 8 boards 3 blocks. I like what I see.

Season predictions

East

1. *Chicago Bulls - (53-30)
2. *Boston Celtics - (51-30)
3. Detroit Pistons - (50-32)
4. *Washington Wizards - (45-37)
5. Toronto Raptors - (49-33)
6. New Jersey Nets - (47-35)
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - (46-36)
8. Orlando Magic- (41-41)

9. Miami Heat - (40-42)
10. Atlanta Hawks - (39-43)
11. Indiana Pacers - (37-45)
12. New York Knicks - (36-46)
13. Charlotte Bobcats - (36-46)
14. Philadelphia 76ers - (34-48)
15. Milwaukee Bucks - (31-51)

West

1. *Phoenix Suns - (63-19)
2. *San Antonio Spurs - (61-21)
3. Dallas Mavericks - (60-22)
4. *Utah Jazz - (53-29)
5. Denver Nuggets - (51-31)
6. Houston Rockets - (49-33)
7. LA Lakers - (45-37)
8. New Orleans Hornets - (43-39)

9. Memphis Grizzlies - (42-40)
10. Golden State Warriors - (42-40)
11. Portland Trailblaizers - (37-45)
12. Sacremento Kings - (35-47)
13. Minnesota Timberwolves - (35-47)
14. Seattle SuperSonics - (29-53)
15. LA Clippers - (26-56)

MVP: Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
ROY: Kevin Durant, Seattle Supersonics
COY: Jerry Sloan, Utah Jazz
DPOY: Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
MIP: Andrew Bynum, LA Lakers
Sixth Man: Kenyon Martin, Denver Nuggets

I'm not good with numbers, so I'll just give the rankings.

Eastern Conference

1. Detroit Pistons
2. Boston Celtics
3. Washington Wizards
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Miami Heat
6. Cleveland Cavaliers
7. Toronto Raptors
8. New Jersey Nets

Western Conference

1. Dallas Mavericks
2. Phoenix Suns
3. San Antonio Spurs
4. Utah Jazz
5. Denver Nuggets
6. Golden State Warrirors (I'm possibly putting too much stock into their playoff run last year)
7. Houston Rockets
8. Los Angeles Lakers (With Kobe for 82 games)

i'll predict too

East-

1. Boston
2. Chicago
3. Washington
4. Detroit
5. Cleveland ( )
6. New Jersey
7. Toronto
8. Atlanta (my dark horse )

Celtics over Hawks, Bulls over Toronto, Jersey over Washington, Cavs over Pistons
Cavs over Celtics, Bulls over Jersey
Bulls over Cavs ( )

West-

1. San Antonio
2. Dallas
3. Phoenix
4. Denver
5. Utah
6. Houston
7. Memphis
8. Golden State

Spurs over Warriors, Mavs over Memphis, Suns over Rockets, Nuggets over Utah
Spurs over Nuggets, Suns over Mavs
Suns over Spurs

Suns over Bulls

Spurs only win on odd years. Gotta be Phoenix.

Season predictions

East

1. *Orlando Magic
2. *Chicago Bulls
3. Cleveland Cavaliers
4. *Boston Celtics
5. Washington Wizards
6. Toronto Raptors
7. Detroit Pistons
8. New Jersey Nets

9. Atlanta Hawks
10. Philadelphia 76ers
11. Charlotte Bobcats
12. Milwaukee Bucks
13. New York Knicks
14. Miami Heat
15. Indiana Pacers

West

1. *Houston Rockets (If both McGrady and Yao were out the entire season, they will still be a top 6 seed in the West)
2. *Denver Nuggets
3. San Antonio Spurs
4. *Phoenix Suns
5. Dallas Mavericks
6. Golden State Warriors
7. Memphis Grizzlies
8. New Orleans Hornets

9. Utah Jazz
10. LA Lakers
11. Minnesota Timberwolves
12. Portland Trailblaizers
13. LA Clippers
14. Seattle SuperSonics
15. Sacremento Kings

MVP: Dwight Howard (Yao Ming)
ROY: Luis Scola (Al Horford)
COY: Rick Adelman (Stan Van Gundy)
DPOY: Dwight Howard (Kevin Garnett)
MIP: Darko Milicic (Leon Powe)
Sixth Man: Manu Ginoboli (Jason Terry)

Magic over Nets in 6
Bulls over Pistons n 7,
Cavaliers over Raptors in 6
Celtics over Wizards in 5

Rockets over Hornets in 4
Nuggets over Grizzlies in 5
Spurs over Warriots in 4
Mavericks over Suns in 7

Celtics over Magic in 6
Bulls over Cavaliers in 5
Rockets over Mavericks in 5
Nuggets over Spurs in 7

Bulls over Celtics over in 6
Nuggets over Rockets in 7

Nuggets over Bulls in 6

All with dreadful predictions, yuck.

thread title needs to be changed

Blazers have some solid players(Alderidge) but they really aren't doing anything but taking turns shooting, not very good ball movement. Lucky Alderidge and Outlaw are hitting shots, otherwise they're losing by 20.

Yeah, so far we've looked like a total one man team. I can't believe how much of a non-factor Roy has been. Granted, it is only game one in a 82 game season, but Roy needs to step it up. If Aldridge can continue playing this well and Roy can improve on his great play of last season, we could actually be pretty decent this season.

2008 NBA FINALS

Dallas vs Boston

Mavs in 6

Believe It!

Well Roy has Bowen on him, best on man defender in the league, so it's forgiveable.

This is actually kind of fun for an opening game. 2 point game now.

Season predictions (best record, regular season):

East
#1. Detroit Pistons (division winner)
#2. Chicago Bulls
#3. Cleveland Cavs
#4. New Jersey Nets (division winner)
#5. Boston Celtics
#6. Toronto Raptors
#7. Washington Wizards (division winner)
#8. Miami Heat
#9. Orlando Magic
#10. New York Knicks
#11. Milwaukee Bucks
#12. Atlanta Hawks
#13. Charlotte Bobcats
#14. Indiana Pacers
#15. Philadelphia 76ers

West
#1. Dallas Mavericks (division winner)
#2. Phoenix Suns (division winner)
#3. San Antonio Spurs
#4. Houston Rockets
#5. Golden State Warriors
#6. Denver Nuggets (division winner)
#7. Utah Jazz
#8. Seattle Supersonics
#9. Memphis Grizzlies
#10 LA Lakers
#11. Sacramento Kings
#12. Portland Trailblazers
#13. New Orleans Hornets
#14. LA Clipper
#15. Minnesota Timberwolves

Championship... Pistons vs. Mavericks with Pistons winning in 7.

My favorite part of the nba (beside the Mavs) is TNT Nba Show. Start of another season with Charles n the gang.

Utah was a MACHINE tonight. Love it.

First season opening road win for the Rockets since 19 freaking 85.

He didn't happen to say the word "jubjub", did he?

Mavs up by 20 at teh half over the Cavs. Same ole, same ole.

Held L.James to 0 points in teh first half.

Don't like seeing the Raps blow 20 point leads, but good game overall. Bargnani especially, after sitting out almost all of the first half. Ford too.

It's a wonder why the Cavs got rid of those uniforms.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

pretty fair deal if I do say so myself

LMAO!!! Uber rape by Cavs

Watched the Pistons vs. Heat last night. I don't want to jump to conclusions off of one game, but it looks like the Heat are going to suck this year, even with Wade back. Detroit didn't look that good, and most of the time were playing their deep bench (Hamilton and Stuckey were out). Still they beat Miami like a drum.

Shaq looks older than ever, and the rest of the team looks like ass. And, I mean ugly fat guy ass on a hot day in August. I'm rethinking my pre-season prediction in which I had Miami at #8 in the East.

It was a fun game to watch. I like it when Miami loses.

I couldn't agree more. Watching Shaq with 0 points in the first half and watching Riley sweat it out with a pained look in his eye was supremely satisfying. Riley has to know it's going to be a long year... I'm sure he'll be faking an illness very soon.

Detroit actually looks really deep this year. I like their bench a lot. Maxiel, Hayes, Stuckey, Murray, and Affalo (sp?) are all pretty competent back ups.