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Post What are the top shows that signify this decade?
In the 90s we had Friends, Seinfeld, Simpsons. and X-files.
The Noughties had Lost, American Idol, Sopranos, and SCI
This decade, I think the top 5 spot is dominated by 3 cable shows. Thats probably how bad broadcast tv has been


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Breaking Bad
TWD
GoT
Scandal??
TBBT?

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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
Ok I just went through the IMDB top 100 a few times and I can't figure out what the fuck SCI is (edit: OH, CSI)

In terms of relevance culturally

The Big Bang Theory
The Walking Dead
Breaking Bad
Half of Mad Men
Game of Thrones
Scandal
True Detective

Is not a bad list, especially compared to the short list of albums or films that feel like instant cultural landmarks last 5 years

For quality I don't consider the present day slate much worse than 10 years ago though I am higher on Once Upon A Time, American Horror Story, Community and The Walking Dead as instant classics than critics are. Actually now that I look at it I take that back, I forgot how insane television exactly 10 years ago was - in 2004 The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Six Feet Under, Arrested Development, Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Angel were all on and except for it being SFU's worst season, basically in their prime (and I didn't even mention Deadwood which I don't like) That'll probably never be topped. The Shield is like the 6th or 7th best show that year :funny:

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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
Mau wrote:
Breaking Bad
TWD
GoT
Scandal??
TBBT?

Replace Scandal with Modern Family and thats where the top 5 list is at


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I've never seen BB or GOT or TD.

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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
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i think we've beyond the idea that pop-culture of our times can be defiend or signified by certain products. This isn't the 60s or 70s or 80s or 90s. A show like Seinfeld for instance defined the 90s even those who didn't like it reacted to it and even those who didn't watch it were aware of it. 00s were fairly gray and the 2010s have been even more. Shows are popular in demos and groups but on a macro-scale, it's just not really the same. I know a significant amount of people who have never seen BBT, BB, GoT, etc and have no awareness of them.

The idea of a shared macro-culture is lost. Everyone picks and chooses what they like. No show signifies anything anymore. Years don't have as much value as they do. No one is going to be like, "this defined the half decade of 2010-2014" like they would when they say "that was early 80s" or "that was late 90s".


I agree with this, generally. Decentralization of entertainment options has kind of un-done the concept of mass media; nowhere moreso than with TV, since there are still films/songs that reach a much greater level of cultural permeation than any scripted TV show could hope to these days.


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I agree with this, generally. Decentralization of entertainment options has kind of un-done the concept of mass media; nowhere moreso than with TV, since there are still films/songs that reach a much greater level of cultural permeation than any TV show could hope to these days.


Yeah, music (pop singles though and nothing else) I think still can do it because it's so easy now for pop to penetrate the mass-culture. Circa late 2012/early 2013, everyone who had access to the internet basically had heard Gangnam Style.

Top commerical movies, despite what the naysayers think, are still significantly more popular than TV. 50m+ people in USA/Canada saw HG, TDKR, and Avengers in 2012 at the box office, and tens of milions of more probably saw those films in the next few years after. In just two or so years after their release, those films have likely been seen by 75m+ people. That's a significant bigger number than any number any TV show today can do (and that's just domestically; add in overseas and the gap becomes significantly bigger).

While the quality of TV shows has gone up, the importance of TV shows on a pop-culture scale in someways has diminished. As much as everyone who saw The Wire wants to praise it as one of the greatest shows ever made, the simple fact is that the amount of people who have seen that show is quite small compared to just other TV shows let alone other pop-culture products.

And popularity is significant in terms of trying to "define" a time period.

Wire only had critical acclaim. It had neither popularity nor has it been parodied on other shows. . Being culturally relevant does not need any critical acclaim. It needs to be mentioned by a lot of media outlets and be in the tongues of many of the population. Shows with big ratings like Murder She Wrote and Touched By An Angel would not be culturally relevant because they have no significant media buzz in their time. A show like Beavis and Butthead which were not huge juggurants like Beavis and Butthead could fit the description of culturally relevant because of it being so easily imitated.

As for your comparison for music, Youtube does help but only for establishing culturally relevant songs and not artist. it only creates one hit wonders. It is not going to help a musician go 10X platinum(which were almost dime a dozen in the 80s and 90s)


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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
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Beavis and Buthead movie did 63m in 1996 (which adjusts to about 115m today). I gurantee that almost any modern day TV show that was made into a movie today wouldn't break 100m. Only exception would be if GoT decided to end the entire series with a giant movies.

You don't think The Walking Dead can easily make 100 million? How many non-animated shows back in the 90s can break 100 million in terms of today's dollars in those days? I only see X-files and maybe Friends but that was it.

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Also, B&B was relevant because people identified themselves with it. There were plenty of dudes in the 90s who were similar to those two fictional characters. As much as people love BB, I don't think many people identify themselves with the show.

Mentioned a lot by Howard Stern, parodied multiple times on the Jimmy Kimmel show and Jimmy Fallon. It mentioned in a lot of social media and its tv ratings was no slouch during the final season. I think it was probably the third highest ratings for a tv show season behind of course the Walking Dead shows and Sopranos.

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As I said albums don't matter anymore. But singles are more popular nwo than ever before. And I agree, it's more about the song than the arist (except in very few cases like Beyonce) but that doesn't chagne the fact that the song is relevant.

If you were going to apply youtube to the equation for songs, you may as well apply it to tv shows via illegal downloads and legit streaming sites like Hulu.. The only problem is that Netflix/Hulu does not provide hit numbers and that torrent sites are not considered for legit numbers.


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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
The Walking Dead would easily clear $100 mil.

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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
This decade is defined less by a specific show and more by how certain shows have survived and THRIVED in the face of a changing medium. For all its failures in the last ten years, primetime network television could still produce genuine hits, like The Big Bang Theory. On the flip side of cable, The Walking Dead has destroyed previous records in all demographics for cable programs. And as far as streaming services like Netflix, Breaking Bad would not have doubled, tripled and quadrupled audience numbers without the help of Netflix helping people catch up on it.

Game of Thrones is definitely with TWD too. And time will tell but a few Netflix originals could join the list.

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I agree 100% about the Netflix effect on some shows. It has tremendously helped some. BB being the main one.

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This decade is definitely less about specific shows and more about HOW and WHEN we watch our shows.

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Post Re: What are the top shows that signify this decade?
There are still popular shows, though, which is what I think El Maskado started this thread for.

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