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Spidey
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 ABC Upfront: 2012-2013
MONDAY: 8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars" 10:00 p.m. "Castle" In January: 8:00 p.m. "The Bachelor" 10:00 p.m. "Castle" TUESDAY: 8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars the Results Show" 9:00 p.m. "Happy Endings" 9:30 p.m. "Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23" 10:00 p.m. "Private Practice" In January: 8:00 p.m. "How to Live with Your Parents (For the Rest of Your Life)" 8:30 p.m. "The Family Tools" WEDNESDAY: 8:00 p.m. "The Middle" 8:30 p.m. "Suburgatory" 9:00 p.m. "Modern Family" 9:30 p.m. "The Neighbors" 10:00 p.m. "Nashville" THURSDAY: 8:00 p.m. "Last Resort" 9:00 p.m. "Grey's Anatomy" 10:00 p.m. "Scandal" FRIDAY: 8:00 p.m. "Shark Tank" 9:00 p.m. "Primetime: What Would You Do?" 10:00 p.m. "20/20" In November: 8:00 p.m. "Last Man Standing" 8:30 p.m. "Malibu Country" 9:00 p.m. "Shark Tank" 10:00 p.m. "Primetime: What Would You Do?" SATURDAY: 8:00 p.m. "Saturday Night College Football" SUNDAY: 7:00 p.m. "America's Funniest Home Videos" 8:00 p.m. "Once Upon a Time" 9:00 p.m. "Revenge" 10:00 p.m. "666 Park Avenue" Read more at http://thefutoncritic.com/news/2012/05/ ... oWM4y3Y.99Read more at http://thefutoncritic.com/news/2012/05/15/abc-unveils-2012-13-primetime-schedule-682000/20120515abc01/#EqSwaySvQik4RSik.99
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thompsoncory
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14605 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: ABC Upfront: 2012-2013
Wow, nice move ABC, putting "Happy Endings" up against "New Girl," which attracts the EXACT SAME DEMOGRAPHIC I really like the Sunday block though and am glad "Scandal" will be staying behind "Grey's Anatomy."
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:14 am |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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 Re: ABC Upfront: 2012-2013
best schedule released so far
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:29 am |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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 Re: ABC Upfront: 2012-2013
Yeah they just killed happy endings and apt 23 with that nonsense. The new NBC comedies are in that slot too. UGH
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:31 am |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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Scandal is a waste of a good time slot, and why the hell don't they finally move Castle and let a decent show see what it can do Mondays at 10? Absurd
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:32 am |
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thompsoncory
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Yeah they just killed happy endings and apt 23 with that nonsense. The new NBC comedies are in that slot too. UGH Seriously. The scheduling of those two is so stupid. I would almost rather them get held to midseason and launched in another timeslot than that.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:36 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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The Happy Endings/Don't Trust the B pairing makes complete sense from a tonal perspective, although I hope they'll be able to stand on their own outside of Modern Family. It's interesting just how many comedies are going to be populating that hour (it also has New Girl/Mindy on Fox and Go On/New Normal on NBC). And hey, at least neither of them are being benched to midseason.
I think ABC's move of Revenge to the Desperate Housewives Sunday slot is a pretty big sign of confidence in the show. I keep waiting for it to absolutely explode, which I feel like it has the potential to do so. And maybe following ABC's other strong drama will do the trick.
Of the new shows premiering in fall, I am definitely watching Nashville and 666 Park Avenue. They both sound fun and have good casts too. The Neighbors could either be good or completely awful depending on its execution, hopefully it's good.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:40 am |
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thompsoncory
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"The Neighbors" sounds so bad. Can't believe it got picked up over other pilots that were in the mix like the Judy Greer and Mandy Moore sitcoms.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:43 am |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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I like Judy Greer but ABC needs to stop trying to make a Judy Greer sitcom happen, its NOT going to happen
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 am |
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Libs
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Also, Last Resort sounds really good and stars the incomparable Andre Braugher, but ABC has not been able to successfully house a program in that time slot since Ugly Betty. So I'm not sure it's going to do all that well.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:49 am |
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Libs
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Scandal is a waste of a good time slot, and why the hell don't they finally move Castle and let a decent show see what it can do Mondays at 10? Absurd This is ABC, the same network that kept Brothers & Sisters behind Desperate Housewives for its entire run, and only just now moved Private Practice out from behind Grey's.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:51 am |
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Mister Ecks
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I don't know where else Happy Endings and Apt. 23 could go. ABC tried both after Modern Family, and neither really capitalized on the ratings. Which sucks.
At least they didn't dump them on Friday nights. What's with the networks trying sitcoms on Friday nights? Even old people have lives on Fridays now.
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 am |
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Libs
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Mister Ecks wrote: I don't know where else Happy Endings and Apt. 23 could go. ABC tried both after Modern Family, and neither really capitalized on the ratings. Which sucks.
At least they didn't dump them on Friday nights. What's with the networks trying sitcoms on Friday nights? Even old people have lives on Fridays now. I think Last Man Standing/Reba have the potential to do well on Friday, actually. Let's not forget how successful TGIF was for years and years, and those two shows will skew older/towards family audiences anyway. It's interesting to look at the vast sitcom landscape next season, though. ABC seemed like they were taking a crazy risk introducing that 2-hour Wednesday comedy block three years ago; now there are sitcoms all over the freaking place.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:05 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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The Friday problem is the networks spend millions and millions on a never-changing number of pilots but, without Fridays, there are that many less places to put them. They NEED Fridays to be a viable place to stick shit. But it seems like over the last season or two the networks have started to understand and accept the level of ratings you can expect on Fridays, so hopefully they won't retreat again
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Libs
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Also, to those freaking out about Happy Endings/Don't Trust the B, at least they'll have a large lead-in from DWTS. So that could give them the edge over Fox and NBC in the hour, although I imagine all three networks will be relatively close together competition-wise.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:07 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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Yes, a large lead-in of grandmothers and elderly assistance centers. Lots of audience overlap there.
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Libs
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Yes, a large lead-in of grandmothers and elderly assistance centers. Lots of audience overlap there. Well yeah, obviously the audience isn't entirely compatible. But viewers are viewers. Maybe they'll even be self-starters, who knows.
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Mister Ecks
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Libs wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: I don't know where else Happy Endings and Apt. 23 could go. ABC tried both after Modern Family, and neither really capitalized on the ratings. Which sucks.
At least they didn't dump them on Friday nights. What's with the networks trying sitcoms on Friday nights? Even old people have lives on Fridays now. I think Last Man Standing/Reba have the potential to do well on Friday, actually. Let's not forget how successful TGIF was for years and years, and those two shows will skew older/towards family audiences anyway. It's interesting to look at the vast sitcom landscape next season, though. ABC seemed like they were taking a crazy risk introducing that 2-hour Wednesday comedy block three years ago; now there are sitcoms all over the freaking place.  Malibu Country stars Reba McIntyre!? Urkel was just on DwtS, maybe they'll revive Family Matters too.
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Mister Ecks
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Yes, a large lead-in of grandmothers and elderly assistance centers. Lots of audience overlap there. Grannies do love them some Tom Bergeron.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:10 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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Calling it now: HE and Apt 23 don't last a month in that slot before ABC panics and gets them out of there.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 pm |
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Libs
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Are you excited about Revenge's move to Sundays, yoshue? I think 666 Park Avenue could conceivably break out the same way Once Upon a Time did, so ABC could start owning Sundays again.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:14 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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It COULD work but I don't think a show like Revenge is going to catch on in a big way this late in its run. I think they're looking at 2.5 as a ceiling, and I hope they're okay with that. If I'm ABC I would have just left it alone.
Plus OUAT and 666 are so high concept and fantastical and Revenge is so...not. It's a weird combo.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:16 pm |
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Libs
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Johnny Dollar wrote: It COULD work but I don't think a show like Revenge is going to catch on in a big way this late in its run. I think they're looking at 2.5 as a ceiling, and I hope they're okay with that. If I'm ABC I would have just left it alone.
Plus OUAT and 666 are so high concept and fantastical and Revenge is so...not. It's a weird combo. I guess they figured Revenge was more compatible with those shows than Nashville (that show sounds like so much fun, btw, Connie Britton and Hayden Panettiere as dueling country singers!). /they're trying to keep a foothold on having a soap in that time period.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:21 pm |
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Mesjarch
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Johnny Dollar wrote: Scandal is a waste of a good time slot, and why the hell don't they finally move Castle and let a decent show see what it can do Mondays at 10? Absurd Why should they move Castle? The show is doing well in that time spot.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:32 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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Because they can probably do better. They haven't even TRIED
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