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Ensure Andy wins Final HOH?

I mean, I hate always assuming this show is "rigged" in any sense, but it won't be good for them if the racist wins.

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It's not like Andy is a better person than her.

H at the very least is a misogynist

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Mister Ecks wrote:
Ensure Andy wins Final HOH?

I mean, I hate always assuming this show is "rigged" in any sense, but it won't be good for them if the racist wins.


It's not gonna be "good" for them if the despised Andy wins either. They probably resigned themselves to this sort of ending weeks ago.


Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:52 pm
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This show has had so many awful winners. Andy would top the list.

It's not like GM is a lot better. In the long run, a win for her wouldn't hold up at all. But for my sanity, I need her to win.

Any guesses on the $25k? I can't see how Elissa loses that.

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Mister Ecks wrote:
This show has had so many awful winners. Andy would top the list.

It's not like GM is a lot better. In the long run, a win for her wouldn't hold up at all. But for my sanity, I need her to win.

Any guesses on the $25k? I can't see how Elissa loses that.


I will be very surprised. And displeased. If Elissa doesn't win America's Favorite.

The ideal scenario is that Andy goes out third, the gross people get called out on their shit, Elissa wins the 25k and some of these people's heads explode. End of the season.


Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:17 pm
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So I don't like any of these houseguests as much as you guys...BUT...

If we take out all of the stuff Andy whines out, complaining, etc. and just focus on his core game moves, didn't he play a good game strategically?

-Low key not ruffling any feathers at first
-Aligning himself with a dominant team when convenient that would take most of the flack (McCranda)
-Timing precisely when it was time to switch alliances
-Fairly upfront goodbye messages (he did own up to Amanda, McCrae that he turned on them and why)
-Letting other people take the fall for him (Elisa)
-Wins the competitions near the end when it counts to control who goes at this stage.
-Keeping around players that he knows he can probably beat in the final 3 and in a final 2 matchup.
-Being on decent terms with most jury members

Yes, GM Spencer and Andy really are a weak final three, but strategically on just a game move level, why do people not think Andy should win?


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We'll see how the jury perceives Andy if he makes it to the F2 tomorrow, but I'm not sure I consider it to be a great game when you pretend to be everyone on the jury's friend before backstabbing every single one of them. The social component/jury management is just as important as anything else.

I mean, I think it might be a moot point because he's not gonna lose to Spencer and I don't see a scenario where the F2 is Andy and GM. So we'll see.


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P.S. How much secondhand embarrassment should we be preparing for tomorrow when GM is finally reunited with Nick?


Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:50 pm
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Good points Libs! I just don't think we should be blaming Andy completely if he was 2-faced with most of the jury members. There was a lot of blame from jury members into being so gullible to play into his game and not consider Andy as worth getting rid of earlier.

For instance, McCrae clearly had a hunch that Andy turned on him. Andy more or less manipulated McCrae to do his bidding and turn on Elisa. He planned that approach ahead of time telling Spencer/GM that he was going to blame Elisa to cover himself.

It's definitely a terrible way to be sending people out of the game, but part of the blame is definitely on what seemed like very gullible players who were easily moulded this season:

Aaryn: More or less did Amanda's way for most of the game. She didn't realize it until it was too late in the game. Was also heavily influenced around GM/Kaitlin/Jeremy.
Judd: Completely blindsighted. Really wasn't attuned to being played by the entire house.
Elissa: Really didn't have much clue about what others were doing. She genuinely had no idea the entire house was turning on Judd.
Helen: Trusted Amanda over Jessie, didn't think they'd turn on her yet but they did.
McCrae: Incredibly influenced by others. Amanda especially but clueless with Andy until it was too late.

Candice and Jessie seemed to be the least so, but otherwise this was a very gullible jury that seemed to not have strong cues about what other people were doing.


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Is there any way Spencer wins?

He at least has 50K on his pocket. But can he win against either andy or GM?

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Is there any way Spencer wins?

He at least has 50K on his pocket. But can he win against either andy or GM?


I don't think he can beat either of them. But I suppose anything's possible, especially if the jury is super bitter towards Andy.


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If I'm in the jury, I'm voting Spencer. Because, even though he was the least trustworthy, he actually never really turned on anyone except his original alliance. And he survived 8!!! eliminations.

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I'd vote for Spencer if he were against Andy

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Mau wrote:
I'd vote for Spencer if he were against Andy


So would I, but the jury haven't been as exposed to Andy's godawful ratlike ways like we viewers have.


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Final predictions?

Andy will win $500k.
Judd will win $25k.

Book it.

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Spencer will win $500k.
Andy will win $50k.
Elissa will win $25k.

GM will find out that Nick is gay.

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Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:55 pm
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Mister Ecks wrote:
Final predictions?

Andy will win $500k.
Judd will win $25k.

Book it.


Judd, hmm? I guess he is the logical second choice for America's Favorite after Elissa given that he is a) straight, b) white, c) a guy, and d) could be considered moderately attractive.

Final predictions?
Andy wins (ugh shoot me). Elissa gets the 25k. Evil Dr. Will shows up looking like a wax figurine.


Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:06 pm
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Seeing Candice talk about how "cute" and "nice" Andy was when he has said such mean things about all of them made me want to tear my hair out. Eesh.

Also, Evil Dr. Will now looks like he's made of wax.

Also, is GM actually contemplating taking Andy? I cannot believe I have to root for this idiot.


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WHO FUCKING WON?

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Mau wrote:
WHO FUCKING WON?


No one yet but Andy just beat GM for HOH. I'm vom'ing.


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Ugh... Andy is winning this season, isn't he? :mad:


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Ok.... Fck this fucking stupid show.

Hope someone runs over Andy as soon as this ends.


I am fucking done with this

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HE EVICTED SPENCER.


AWHAT THE FUCK?


Go fucking GM goooo GM

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OMG he just cut Spencer?!?! Andy/GM final two. I really hope that comes back to bite him in the ass and GM wins.


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Holy crap! HE EVICTED SPENCER?!?!!! I'm shocked!


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