The 'Desperate Housewives' Thread (Season 1)
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Archie Gates wrote: Oh don't worry guys, I'd bet money Rex isn't really dead. In a soap opera people aren't dead till you see them buried and even then sometimes they find a way to cheat death. All we know is that Bree got a phone call saying that her husband is dead. He may be but if he was, I would have expected more of a scene of the doctors trying to revive him or something.
The writers have 4 months to come up with a way that he isn't really dead. For example, Bree could have been imagining it because of all the stress she was under.
It was way too dark an episode, I don't think this will help the popularity of the show. It was just too grim and serious all the time. Susan was such a wimp for not bolting out of the house when Edie was at the door. Sure she might have got shot but the risk was better than the risk of staying put inside as a captive.
Still it was pretty well written overall, I admire the professionalness of this show, how they really seem to put in the effort.
Finally, sorry people but he isn't dead.
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Mon May 23, 2005 2:34 am |
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Raffiki
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Archie Gates wrote: Oh don't worry guys, I'd bet money Rex isn't really dead. In a soap opera people aren't dead till you see them buried and even then sometimes they find a way to cheat death. All we know is that Bree got a phone call saying that her husband is dead. He may be but if he was, I would have expected more of a scene of the doctors trying to revive him or something.
Plus I just saw a little interview with Stephen Culp just yesterday talking about how glad he is to be on the show, he didn't sound at all like a guy about to be written out. The writers have 4 months to come up with a way that he isn't really dead. For example, Bree could have been imagining it because of all the stress she was under.
It was way too dark an episode, I don't think this will help the popularity of the show. It was just too grim and serious all the time.
And what CSI is the #1 show in America because they offer kids playing and eating candy???
Sorry if that came off rude, but I just felt I had to say it
And actually I sorta agree or at least share your doubt with the Rex thing. When they called it was such a regular phone call that I actually thought it was Rex playing a prank, but I mean a serious one to see how she would react. But when she broke down I sorta really believed it.
I'd be really pissed if it was a stress-dream cuz that's just cheating and no offense but they're too good to do that, I would never think they'd stoop that low for a cliffhanger. There could be something else that could save him or prove he isn't dead, but I think it's a really good storyline. Yes, I actually had the thought in my head how great it was to see a marriage in trouble and one that is actually believably saved and reforged when Bree said "call it even" and "the best is yet to come" and then when you go and do something like that )as in the writers) it just shows the gravity, weight, and realness in the show.
And I brought this issue up a couple months ago.... one of the biggest reasons why it played out so well is because we weren't iformed via the media if the actors' contract is in jeopardy or if he's returning or not much like all the big hyped shows are. Could one imagine if we didn't know Lena Olin signed on the show? How amazing it would have been to find out?
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A. G.
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Raffiki wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Oh don't worry guys, I'd bet money Rex isn't really dead. In a soap opera people aren't dead till you see them buried and even then sometimes they find a way to cheat death. All we know is that Bree got a phone call saying that her husband is dead. He may be but if he was, I would have expected more of a scene of the doctors trying to revive him or something.
Plus I just saw a little interview with Stephen Culp just yesterday talking about how glad he is to be on the show, he didn't sound at all like a guy about to be written out. The writers have 4 months to come up with a way that he isn't really dead. For example, Bree could have been imagining it because of all the stress she was under.
It was way too dark an episode, I don't think this will help the popularity of the show. It was just too grim and serious all the time. And what CSI is the #1 show in America because they offer kids playing and eating candy??? Sorry if that came off rude, but I just felt I had to say it 
To me, the appeal of DH and several of the other new shows that I like is that they were a break away from the bleak darkness of CSI and the 20 clone cop shows cluttering the dial.
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Mon May 23, 2005 2:44 am |
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Raffiki
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Archie Gates wrote: Raffiki wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Oh don't worry guys, I'd bet money Rex isn't really dead. In a soap opera people aren't dead till you see them buried and even then sometimes they find a way to cheat death. All we know is that Bree got a phone call saying that her husband is dead. He may be but if he was, I would have expected more of a scene of the doctors trying to revive him or something.
Plus I just saw a little interview with Stephen Culp just yesterday talking about how glad he is to be on the show, he didn't sound at all like a guy about to be written out. The writers have 4 months to come up with a way that he isn't really dead. For example, Bree could have been imagining it because of all the stress she was under.
It was way too dark an episode, I don't think this will help the popularity of the show. It was just too grim and serious all the time. And what CSI is the #1 show in America because they offer kids playing and eating candy??? Sorry if that came off rude, but I just felt I had to say it  To me, the appeal of DH and several of the other new shows that I like is that they were a break away from the bleak darkness of CSI and the 20 clone cop shows cluttering the dial.
From the very first episode you could tell that Desperate Housewives is a drak-comedic soapy satire. The finale was a bit darker or ya it probably was thw darkest episode yet but where did you guys think all these secrets and deaths were going to lead to? A community sit-down meeting to discuss it? 2 people have been shot in the first season, 1 suicide, chopped up bodies in toy chests. Did you guys think it was gonna have a comedic and happy ending.
Actually I am starting to gain much more repect for the finale now 
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Mon May 23, 2005 2:52 am |
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Rod
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I agrree that it was an extremely dark episode, it had me feeling a little sick especially towards the end.
But I still thought ti was superb, guess I'm a masochist.
It just barely broke the 30 million viewer mark according to overnights. 
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Mon May 23, 2005 11:43 am |
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imtim83
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I love the show Desperate Housewives! To cool and never boring! I just really want to know what happens after that killer cliffhanger!
I felt so bad for Rex's wife though after she broke down. Made me almost cry. They all know how to act thats for sure!
When is The Desperate Housewives season 2 ? I can't wait any longer.
Did you all see the new hidden scene for the season finale of Desperate Housewives on Good Morning America? !
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Mon May 23, 2005 12:57 pm |
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xXVincentxX
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Explosive Season Finale! Every lose end was tied up marvellously. And I loved learning Mary Alice's secret. I would've never guessed it. This was one of my favorite episodes, and I thought it was brilliant. Zach is a psychotic little asshole, and I have no sympathy for his character whatsoever. I don't think Felecity is dead because all Edie said was that she was attacked, and the ambulence was sent to get her. That really doesn't sound like death to me. It's sad to see Rex go, but I do have my doubts. He could've put his doctor up to it or something, knowing how his mind works. Plus this show is really unpredictable and tricky, so anything is possible. Bring on Season 2!
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Mon May 23, 2005 2:58 pm |
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greasedlightning
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Bleh. I didn't like the finale. I, as much as many others, I'm sure, peiced together the whole Zach-being-Mike's-son thing weeks ago.. I was hoping that wasn't the "big secret" that would be revealed. And Rex dying.. I suspected that too, with the pharmacist (George?) mixing his medicine. I liked seeing Mary Alice's story revealed, which explained in depth everything I already figured out, but I don't think it was as explosive as an episode like everyone else thought. Not soemthing that will "keep me thinking" the rest of the summer. Not a bad episode, though. I just had high expectations. Still looking forward to next season.
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Mon May 23, 2005 3:58 pm |
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Raffiki
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greasedlightning wrote: Bleh. I didn't like the finale. I, as much as many others, I'm sure, peiced together the whole Zach-being-Mike's-son thing weeks ago.. I was hoping that wasn't the "big secret" that would be revealed. And Rex dying.. I suspected that too, with the pharmacist (George?) mixing his medicine. I liked seeing Mary Alice's story revealed, which explained in depth everything I already figured out, but I don't think it was as explosive as an episode like everyone else thought. Not soemthing that will "keep me thinking" the rest of the summer. Not a bad episode, though. I just had high expectations. Still looking forward to next season.
I'm sorta in the same place you are.
I knew exactly what had happened, this episode just showed it in detail. All this time I thought Paul had killed Deirdra though, not Mary Alice... but that's just a small detail.
However, the episode itself, though not many surprising things happened that I didn't know was very well written. I'm sorry for those who didn't, but I loved how dark it got. I LOVED it. I appreciate it more and more as the hours go by.
And I must say the cliffhanger was pretty well done.
It wasn't something so big that you just can't wait to see it. It was a good evened out and fitting ending.
It got around 30 million viewers!!!!
And also brought Grey's Anatomy to its highest ever, 22 million viewers. the 7pm hour of Extreme Home MAkeover brought the average of the 2 hour down to 13. something, but that's still great overall. The second hour probably saw 15-16+ million viewers. GO ABC!!!!
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Mon May 23, 2005 4:46 pm |
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Spidey
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Wow. Last night's episode was a great way to end the season. I loved how they revealed Mary Alice killed Diedra which was Mike's girlfriend and Zach is Mike's son. I need another episode to see if Zach kills Mike, but he probably doesn't. I am going to miss Rex, even though his time on the show has ended. When Bree fell apart when she found out Rex died it made me sad. I cannot wait for the season premiere. I heard Gabrielle is going to have a new man in her life. Susan and Mike should get married, if all works out for them. Edie and the new housewife might become friends. Lynette is going to work! Season 2 come on and start now!!!
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Mon May 23, 2005 7:28 pm |
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Rod
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Ok WHEREEEEEEE are people making the assumption that Zach is Mike's son?
I knew it was a possibility since weeks ago, but I seem to have missed where it was "reveleade" that he was Mike's son?
Unless she was somehow incapable of having sex with someone else other than Mike all this time????
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Mon May 23, 2005 9:03 pm |
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Raffiki
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Rod wrote: Ok WHEREEEEEEE are people making the assumption that Zach is Mike's son?
I knew it was a possibility since weeks ago, but I seem to have missed where it was "reveleade" that he was Mike's son?
Unless she was somehow incapable of having sex with someone else other than Mike all this time????
I see what you are saying and no there was nothing you missed, but COME ON.... it's almost painted right in front of your face. Who else's son would it be? Especially when Mike said Deirdra had a son?
It's pretty obvious.
Way back in November (when there was all this Dana talk and nobody knew anything about her cept for a blanket) she guessed that Dana was Zack's original name and that his birthmother came to take him back and they killed her and put her in the box. I thought it was a neat idea but one that wouldn;t work out. And then it DID!! I found out about a month and a half ago that she was on the right track and with that information, when they said that it was Deirdra in the box, or actually a little before when they said this was where she went missing, I made the connection that she was the one in the box, the birthmother and she used to be Mike's girlfriend = Mike's baby!
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A. G.
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Raffiki wrote: Rod wrote: Ok WHEREEEEEEE are people making the assumption that Zach is Mike's son?
I knew it was a possibility since weeks ago, but I seem to have missed where it was "reveleade" that he was Mike's son?
Unless she was somehow incapable of having sex with someone else other than Mike all this time???? I see what you are saying and no there was nothing you missed, but COME ON.... it's almost painted right in front of your face. Who else's son would it be? Especially when Mike said Deirdra had a son? It's pretty obvious. Way back in November (when there was all this Dana talk and nobody knew anything about her cept for a blanket) she guessed that Dana was Zack's original name and that his birthmother came to take him back and they killed her and put her in the box. I thought it was a neat idea but one that wouldn;t work out. And then it DID!! I found out about a month and a half ago that she was on the right track and with that information, when they said that it was Deirdra in the box, or actually a little before when they said this was where she went missing, I made the connection that she was the one in the box, the birthmother and she used to be Mike's girlfriend = Mike's baby!
Wait a sec though, there's something I don't understand. You say that Mike earlier said that Dierdre had a son, but when Mike took Paul out to the desert and Paul told his story in flashbacks, Mike's response was shock that Dierdre had a child.
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Tue May 24, 2005 12:24 am |
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imtim83
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Archie Gates wrote: Raffiki wrote: Rod wrote: Ok WHEREEEEEEE are people making the assumption that Zach is Mike's son?
I knew it was a possibility since weeks ago, but I seem to have missed where it was "reveleade" that he was Mike's son?
Unless she was somehow incapable of having sex with someone else other than Mike all this time???? I see what you are saying and no there was nothing you missed, but COME ON.... it's almost painted right in front of your face. Who else's son would it be? Especially when Mike said Deirdra had a son? It's pretty obvious. Way back in November (when there was all this Dana talk and nobody knew anything about her cept for a blanket) she guessed that Dana was Zack's original name and that his birthmother came to take him back and they killed her and put her in the box. I thought it was a neat idea but one that wouldn;t work out. And then it DID!! I found out about a month and a half ago that she was on the right track and with that information, when they said that it was Deirdra in the box, or actually a little before when they said this was where she went missing, I made the connection that she was the one in the box, the birthmother and she used to be Mike's girlfriend = Mike's baby! Wait a sec though, there's something I don't understand. You say that Mike earlier said that Dierdre had a son, but when Mike took Paul out to the desert and Paul told his story in flashbacks, Mike's response was shock that Dierdre had a child.
Archie Gates Thank You!
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Tue May 24, 2005 12:26 am |
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Maverikk
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Steven Culp (Rex) was just on the Tonight Show. He left no doubts that Rex is dead. He said he was surprised he lasted as long as he did. He also said they had talked about the possibility of bringing him back in flashbacks next season, but said he told them "Great, you can pay me a boatload more money". so he doubts it's going to happen. He sounded like he was ready to move on. I guess he's currently got a reoccuring role on The West Wing. Sorry if this news disappoints anyone, but I saw and heard the man say it myself.
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Tue May 24, 2005 12:36 am |
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imtim83
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Maverikk wrote: Steven Culp (Rex) was just on the Tonight Show. He left no doubts that Rex is dead. He said he was surprised he lasted as long as he did. He also said they had talked about the possibility of bringing him back in flashbacks next season, but said he told them "Great, you can pay me a boatload more money". so he doubts it's going to happen. He sounded like he was ready to move on. I guess he's currently got a reoccuring role on The West Wing. Sorry if this news disappoints anyone, but I saw and heard the man say it myself.
Maverikk I don't believe you.

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Tue May 24, 2005 1:06 am |
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A. G.
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Well if he's really dead then that's a dumb move for the show in my opinion, Bree and Rex for all the weirdness were still one of the closest things to normal on the show that helped anchor it in reality. Not that the show will suffer in ratings though.
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Tue May 24, 2005 3:21 am |
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Rod
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Archie Gates wrote: Well if he's really dead then that's a dumb move for the show in my opinion, Bree and Rex for all the weirdness were still one of the closest things to normal on the show that helped anchor it in reality. Not that the show will suffer in ratings though.
Which is why I think it will work.
Despite everything they went though, you kinda started rooting for Rex and Bree at the end, so it'll be interesting to see how she deals with his death.
AS for Mike/Zach. Dierdra was an addict. You'd be surprised to know what addicts will do to get their fix. :razz:
I won't believe Zach is Mike's son until they say so. And even then I think they could go on to reveal that he's not afterall in later episodes.
I mean isn't odd that Mike wouldn't know about her pregnancy. So it's like have sex with Dierdra...then don't see her again for months?
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Tue May 24, 2005 12:34 pm |
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Maverikk
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imtim83 wrote: Maverikk I don't believe you.
I have no reason to make it up, and I'm sure it's easy enough to verify it. I know it's not going to be popular and was pretty unexpected, but so is real life. I liked the relationship and banter between Rex and Bree, so , for me, they took something away, and I feel it'll hurt more than help, but you never know. I'd rather not watch Bree turn into a mourner and a revenge seeker. I liked her the way she was, and now, she has to face dealing with her obsessive complusive disorder with something very out of place. At least it will be interesting to see how she deals with it, but taking one of the funny characters and throwing that kind of tragedy on them could backfire.
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Tue May 24, 2005 2:45 pm |
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Raffiki
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Rod wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Well if he's really dead then that's a dumb move for the show in my opinion, Bree and Rex for all the weirdness were still one of the closest things to normal on the show that helped anchor it in reality. Not that the show will suffer in ratings though. Which is why I think it will work. Despite everything they went though, you kinda started rooting for Rex and Bree at the end, so it'll be interesting to see how she deals with his death. AS for Mike/Zach. Dierdra was an addict. You'd be surprised to know what addicts will do to get their fix. :razz: I won't believe Zach is Mike's son until they say so. And even then I think they could go on to reveal that he's not afterall in later episodes. I mean isn't odd that Mike wouldn't know about her pregnancy. So it's like have sex with Dierdra...then don't see her again for months?
You know what. I was so sure of it that now I think he's not.
They may have planted all those clues to lead us in that direction while they always had another twist ready for us.
I mean, this is where the plotline was leading to-- that assumption, that was the big idea.
I guess I just took the assumption for truth too fast and Season 2 might be finding out if that assumption is true!
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Tue May 24, 2005 6:03 pm |
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Dkmuto
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Slate's commentary on 'the voice':
http://slate.msn.com/id/2119399/
Sorry, guys, but I agree. Wholeheartedly.
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Wed May 25, 2005 3:29 am |
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A. G.
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Slate prides itself on going against the grain, they go out of their way to be counterintuitive even when not appropriate. The author of that piece is taking the show way too seriously, yes it's preachy if you take it at face value as if it was a straight ahead normal drama but it isn't.
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Wed May 25, 2005 12:31 pm |
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Maverikk
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I find her quirky deliver to be part of the show's charm. When they did the recap episode, they had a guy doing the narration, and it wasn't nearly as fun to listen to. The narration is over the top, but that guy is definitely taking it too seriously, and that piece reads much more like somebody who is "trying" to sound smart, than somebody who IS smart, because a smart person wouldn't have wasted so much energy writing a long article on something so insignificant as a voice narration. 
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Wed May 25, 2005 2:52 pm |
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imtim83
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Maverikk wrote: imtim83 wrote: Maverikk I don't believe you. I have no reason to make it up, and I'm sure it's easy enough to verify it. I know it's not going to be popular and was pretty unexpected, but so is real life. I liked the relationship and banter between Rex and Bree, so , for me, they took something away, and I feel it'll hurt more than help, but you never know. I'd rather not watch Bree turn into a mourner and a revenge seeker. I liked her the way she was, and now, she has to face dealing with her obsessive complusive disorder with something very out of place. At least it will be interesting to see how she deals with it, but taking one of the funny characters and throwing that kind of tragedy on them could backfire.
Indeed Maverikk it could backfire, indeed.
Look at what happen on 24. To me some things they did backfired on them.
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Wed May 25, 2005 2:58 pm |
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Maverikk
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imtim83 wrote: Indeed Maverikk it could backfire, indeed.
Look at what happen on 24. To me some things they did backfired on them.
I wonder if they are pushing Marcia Cross for an Emmy and Golden Globe next season, and felt that they needed to give her character something that the audience (and voters) would be sympathetic to, in an effort to get an award for her.
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